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    Angry Microgaming - Something is not right

    I was really hoping I was on a bad streak but in the last few months I have played at various Microgaming Casinos and not won anything never even come close to even exceeding my deposit and this week I am convinced there is something wrong.

    I deposited at Ladbrokes on Saturday £34 got a 100% bonus the money was gone in less than 30 minutes I then received a £25 bonus on Sunday this was gone in 10 minutes today received another £25 bonus again gone in 20 minutes (10 of this playing a tournament).

    I know theres bad luck but i even got down to playing 10 lines at 1p to keep the game play going and still nothing I have been playing on Micrgaming casinos since about 2005 and I have never seen my money go like this last week I won £25 worth of bonus points on Gaming Club again gone within a few minutes.

    I know this has been discussed before and people say that the casinos cannot change the payout ratio without contacting Microgaming but to me since July when I won £1800 and was playing with the money for a week and got the money up from £100 now I don't get 30 minutes play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveh35 View Post
    I was really hoping I was on a bad streak but in the last few months I have played at various Microgaming Casinos and not won anything never even come close to even exceeding my deposit and this week I am convinced there is something wrong.

    I deposited at Ladbrokes on Saturday £34 got a 100% bonus the money was gone in less than 30 minutes I then received a £25 bonus on Sunday this was gone in 10 minutes today received another £25 bonus again gone in 20 minutes (10 of this playing a tournament).

    I know theres bad luck but i even got down to playing 10 lines at 1p to keep the game play going and still nothing I have been playing on Micrgaming casinos since about 2005 and I have never seen my money go like this last week I won £25 worth of bonus points on Gaming Club again gone within a few minutes.

    I know this has been discussed before and people say that the casinos cannot change the payout ratio without contacting Microgaming but to me since July when I won £1800 and was playing with the money for a week and got the money up from £100 now I don't get 30 minutes play.
    That's the problem, you answered your own question. £25, £34... That's just
    not enough to hit good wins unless your really lucky and bet $5 on the first
    slot you played and got the bonus round.

    As stated in your quote up above, you won £1,800 from a £100 deposit.
    £100 deposit makes it a lot easier to win £1,800.

    I guess it's all about chances. You have more chances to win with more of
    a deposit based on more chances to spin the reels at an ample bet size.

    £24, £34 is just to low to start off with.

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    The first deposit was £34 plus 100% so it was £68 and as i play mainly 75p to £1 but I have mostly played this way I only played the £100 because it was on a casino after I had won on the free hour play and only needed to deposit £20 to get £100 free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveh35 View Post
    The first deposit was £34 plus 100% so it was £68 and as i play mainly 75p to £1 but I have mostly played this way I only played the £100 because it was on a casino after I had won on the free hour play and only needed to deposit £20 to get £100 free.
    I understand now. I stopped the small depositing and only
    deposit between $150 - $200 at any Microgaming casino
    because I find that it's way to easy to lose small deposits.
    My method has been working so far for me.

    I deposit around $150 - $200 and bet at max $5 per spin.

    Bonus rounds usually pay a lot more at $5 a spin.

    I don't take any bonuses because I don't like having a big chained
    metal ball attached to my money that can only be released
    after I run around the track 500 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveh35 View Post
    I was really hoping I was on a bad streak but in the last few months I have played at various Microgaming Casinos and not won anything never even come close to even exceeding my deposit and this week I am convinced there is something wrong.

    I deposited at Ladbrokes on Saturday £34 got a 100% bonus the money was gone in less than 30 minutes I then received a £25 bonus on Sunday this was gone in 10 minutes today received another £25 bonus again gone in 20 minutes (10 of this playing a tournament).

    I know theres bad luck but i even got down to playing 10 lines at 1p to keep the game play going and still nothing I have been playing on Micrgaming casinos since about 2005 and I have never seen my money go like this last week I won £25 worth of bonus points on Gaming Club again gone within a few minutes.

    I know this has been discussed before and people say that the casinos cannot change the payout ratio without contacting Microgaming but to me since July when I won £1800 and was playing with the money for a week and got the money up from £100 now I don't get 30 minutes play.
    You're thinking of RTG, Microgaming operators CANNOT change the payouts at all. Not even MICROGAMING change the payouts across the board.

    Published aggregate payout figures (monthly & audited) suggested that MGS slots pay at about 95%. This was verified by a detailed study some years ago, gathering the reel strips, and calculating the RTP for those slots where everything was visible (such as free spins). From this, it turned out that MGS slots vary about 1% either side of 95%, if anything many pay more, rather than less. For progressives, the 95% figure INCLUDES the contributions to the pool, and base game payouts are lower, 88% in the case of Mega Moolah, which was calculated using reel strips.

    Quote Originally Posted by steveh35 View Post
    The first deposit was £34 plus 100% so it was £68 and as i play mainly 75p to £1 but I have mostly played this way I only played the £100 because it was on a casino after I had won on the free hour play and only needed to deposit £20 to get £100 free.
    Depending on which slot is played, this can happen, and quite often too. The higher the variance, the more likely you are to see £68 vanish in as little as 10 minutes.

    During the 32Red slotsmeister, I often play Thunderstruck variants at 9p per spin. Sometimes, I have seen £50 hoovered up in a VERY short space of time, and in little over 1000 spins. This is certainly not the norm, but neither can it be classed as "rare". Equally, I have won £100, even £200, on nothing but 9p spins due to a sequence of high paying free spins rounds. Had I not been playing the slotsmeister, I could easily have withdrawn £200, even £300 once, from a £50 deposit and only 9p spins.

    £1800 from a £100 balance is pretty good (did it myself last week as a matter of fact) Found the cashout button at £1800 (unlike the previous week for which I was duly reprimanded)

    £1800 would fund 36 £50 deposits, and if each was done with a 100% bonus would provide £3600 spread out into 36 separate attempts to win again.

    I have found that MGS can go "on the suck" in one place, but switching between both games and casinos (and different bonus offers) spreads the risk, and often there is the opportunity to cash out. The problem is IDENTIFYING that opportunity, and at the RIGHT TIME. The desire to press home the advantage can sometimes reap rewards, but equally can lead to ruin. This desire to run with a winning streak, rathet than cash out immediately, is how casinos make their money. We know that players who DO work out where the cashout button is, and USE it whenever they can, often get accusations of "bonus abuser", "advantage player", "not playing within the spirit of...." thrown at them.
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    I mainly played Mad Hatters, Big Kahuna Snakes and Ladders, Wheel Of Wealth and Multi Player Wheel Of Wealth, also tried Monster In The Closet on Gaming Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Raided View Post
    That's the problem, you answered your own question. £25, £34... That's just
    not enough to hit good wins unless your really lucky and bet $5 on the first
    slot you played and got the bonus round.

    As stated in your quote up above, you won £1,800 from a £100 deposit.
    £100 deposit makes it a lot easier to win £1,800.

    I guess it's all about chances. You have more chances to win with more of
    a deposit based on more chances to spin the reels at an ample bet size.

    £24, £34 is just to low to start off with.
    I received a 10 ndb from Desert Dollar once and withdrew just over £1000, I deposited £25 at Zodiac and capped just over 2k and withdrew £1500, these are just 2 examples your assessment of MGS casinos could not be more wrong.

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    Just a quick question to Vinyl, in those audits VWM is the cash won from PJP`s taken into consideration?, if so this would considerably lower the actual % won by the individual player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveh35 View Post
    I mainly played Mad Hatters, Big Kahuna Snakes and Ladders, Wheel Of Wealth and Multi Player Wheel Of Wealth, also tried Monster In The Closet on Gaming Club.
    A tip, if you are playing with small deposits avoid all those slots like the plague, play the 15 lines dual bonus slots Mermaids Millions or Bush Telegraph are excellent, if you start to get consistent hits of respins on MM gradually raise your stake until they slow down, never play Big Kahuna until you can afford at least .90p a spin, and hits like this will happen, notice also it`s at Ladbrokes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh777 View Post
    I received a 10 ndb from Desert Dollar once and withdrew just over £1000, I deposited £25 at Zodiac and capped just over 2k and withdrew £1500, these are just 2 examples your assessment of MGS casinos could not be more wrong.
    Yeah but realistically speaking, $10, $25 dollar deposits are super
    tough to make into $1000-$2000 withdraws at any casino.

    By the way Seventh, above is an excellent strategy. I agree with
    you about avoiding those slots if you can't afford at least 90c a spin.

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