Requiring notary seal for ID veification

[Zencro]

I am trying to verify my documents at Casino Tropez and they told me I have to go to a notary public or attorney to have a notary seal for my ID. I don't have any problems like this at the other casinos I have accounts in. Is this normal?

 

[The Dude]

I am trying to verify my documents at Casino Tropez and they told me I have to go to a notary public or attorney to have a notary seal for my ID. I don't have any problems like this at the other casinos I have accounts in. Is this normal?

It's not normal, but not unheard of.

 

[P.V.]

I've seen where several casino's are asking for documents to be notarized recently, probably will be a normal request before long. Due to fraud and money laundering they're required to do whatever they can to make sure you're who you say you are.

With that being said, if you provide an ID, current utility bill and other requested documents that should confirm your identity and proof of residence without the hassle of it being notarized by a notary, so I'm not sure I totally agree with this additional step.

Then again maybe it's necessary, I'm not in the casino business. Maybe some casino operators would like to chime in on why notarized documents are starting to be required.

Personally I'm more concerned about document security, who's viewing doc's, how they're sent and what happens to them after the fact.

 

[LaurieJim]

It's not normal, but not unheard of.

We covered this a year or so back when a casino was wanting doc's notarized from another player, you can usually just go to any bank that you have an account with and have this done for a small fee.

Im a Notary, all they will do is look at you and your ID and log it into a book, they will then seal and sign off and date it that you appered before them, they may want to have you sign a form the casino might send in front of them to verify signature.

It shouldnt cost you more than a few dollars.

I really see no need in this personaly.

From Wiki:

A notary public (or notary or public notary) is a public officer constituted by law to serve the public in non-contentious matters usually concerned with estates, deeds, powers-of-attorney, and foreign and international business. A notary's main functions are to administer oaths and affirmations, take affidavits and statutory declarations, witness and authenticate the execution of certain classes of documents, take acknowledgments of deeds and other conveyances, protest notes and bills of exchange, provide notice of foreign drafts, prepare marine protests in cases of damage, provide exemplifications and notarial copies, and perform certain other official acts depending on the jurisdiction.[1] Any such act is known as a notarization. The term notary public only refers to common-law notaries and should not be confused with civil-law notaries.

Laurie

 

[baldidiot]

I am trying to verify my documents at Casino Tropez and they told me I have to go to a notary public or attorney to have a notary seal for my ID. I don't have any problems like this at the other casinos I have accounts in. Is this normal?

That's crazy. Did they let you know this before you made a deposit or is it a situation of "do it or dont get your money".

UK players can get something notarised at the post office - costs less than £10 I think.

 

[vinylweatherman]

We covered this a year or so back when a casino was wanting doc's notarized from another player, you can usually just go to any bank that you have an account with and have this done for a small fee.

Im a Notary, all they will do is look at you and your ID and log it into a book, they will then seal and sign off and date it that you appered before them, they may want to have you sign a form the casino might send in front of them to verify signature.

It shouldnt cost you more than a few dollars.

I really see no need in this personaly.

From Wiki:

A notary public (or notary or public notary) is a public officer constituted by law to serve the public in non-contentious matters usually concerned with estates, deeds, powers-of-attorney, and foreign and international business. A notary's main functions are to administer oaths and affirmations, take affidavits and statutory declarations, witness and authenticate the execution of certain classes of documents, take acknowledgments of deeds and other conveyances, protest notes and bills of exchange, provide notice of foreign drafts, prepare marine protests in cases of damage, provide exemplifications and notarial copies, and perform certain other official acts depending on the jurisdiction.[1] Any such act is known as a notarization. The term notary public only refers to common-law notaries and should not be confused with civil-law notaries.

Laurie

Casinos are also asking the notarised documents to be POSTED to them. Why is this necessary? Surely all they need do is contact the notary concerned to verify that they did indeed notarise the documents.

Notarised documents falling into the wrong hands is more serious than an ordinary copy. It lends an air of authenticity to the document, which a fraudster could use to "blag" their way past the checking process. Even if the notary is asked to verify that the document is genuine, this will NOT indicate whether it is being USED in a fraudulent manner.

That's crazy. Did they let you know this before you made a deposit or is it a situation of "do it or dont get your money".

UK players can get something notarised at the post office - costs less than £10 I think.

I noticed this recently on their website. I didn't know this before. Unfortunately, with the mass closure of post office branches, it is increasingly difficult to access these new services.

Tracking down a post office is much easier than looking for a notary or solicitor, so the process should be less painful for UK players at least.

This certainly is becoming much more common, since only last year casino reps were trying to assure us that this was only done for "one or two" players, something NOT consistent with the number of players reporting that they have received such a request.

Maybe casinos ARE making this more routine, but would rather NOT tell us up front in case it scares us off. If they told you BEFORE depositing that they would require notarised documents, many players would simply go elsewhere. Only if it became more routine would players be more willing to send notarised documents, provided we could be convinced of the necessity by the industry.

It seems that ID standards for casinos far exceed those required by my BANK, and I would have expected my BANK of all institutions to be the most careful about making sure I am who I say I am, and not using them to launder money.

 

[GrandMaster]

That's crazy. Did they let you know this before you made a deposit or is it a situation of "do it or dont get your money".

UK players can get something notarised at the post office - costs less than £10 I think.

I doubt it. Notarising means that it has to be done by a notary public.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I doubt it. Notarising means that it has to be done by a notary public.

Casinos may still accept it though. In the past they have told players to go to "your local police station" to get it done. The police are not "notary publics" either. The casinos seem to use the term very loosely (unlike their slots).

 

[catcat941]

So tropez had asked notary , inter casino , who else on the list

i am doing an email list and put a note in my promoting websites , of casinos and sporting books

that doing so .

the whole excuse of money laundry reason to do so , is a total BS , since it is so easy for casinos to see if the player actually plays , or just deposit and withrawal .

and i think that casinos ought to ask players while depositing or before , to certify the accounts with the ¨´´ Notary documents ´´ if those casinos practice this behaviour everynow and than .