Another VRC question..

[sparkz]

Hey guys... Just wondering how you are finding VRC at this moment in time.

I know I made a post about them below but it was discussing another matter.

Again with the talk of possible "switches" and games odds being changed for players how is it playing for you at the moment? because im starting to feel there now that if there was a luck switch then mine had been flipped to the wrong side.

In the past I have claimed a fair few free chips. Due to the high WR I havent been able to meet WR, however a few times I have had weird things happen in games to make me believe about the RTP being able to be set per player.

If we talk about "psychadelic sixties" to begin with... for me it used to be really low varience. Many times when I was playing with free chips I often hit free spins and then hit 3 sets of expanding wilds and a lot of bonuses (needless to say WR wasnt met because it was too high).. nowadays however weather I play a bonus or not I hit literally nothing on it. If I bet $1 a spin then I could go near 100 spins with barely getting my bet value back and bonuses at that spin value simply dont happen. If im betting a lower 30c a spin I may get the odd 1 or 2 bonuses very rarely but my normal spins hit next to nothing each time.

Now onto blackjack. Again I used to play it a fair amount with the free chips. I did used to get mostly decent hands. Now however if I play with a bonus I do manage to get a fair few wins on it... however if im playing with my own cash im very very lucky to see profit... it actually becomes really silly hands where the dealer constantly beats my 20 by having BJ or worse still where he manages to get 21 after showing a soft 17 or lower.

In fact 95% of games have payed really well in bonuses months ago. However after some big wins on them previously (with a bonus I never made WR for) they have all become tight for me to play.

In actual fact what baffles me is my last cashout was nearly 4 months ago which was a low amount. Since then I have had nothing it the ways of any wins.

In the past 2 days I have made over $700 worth of deposits (high roller style eh..nearly) and have lost all of it with $0 profit on anything. When I did make profit it was less than $30... and if you look at that i have to pay $5 bank fees with each deposit (since my bank is UK £ ), then moneybookers withdraw fees and of course lose more of it with currency conversion to my bank. So with that taken on board theres simply no point withdrawing that little profit because by time all of that is taken into consideration I would be left with nothing.

In the past week I have also been given (at my request mostly... but only fair from my very poor and skeptical run of results) 3x $100 free chips, 2x $25 free chips, 1x $200 free chip and 1x $7 free chip, as well as redeeming a total near $100 in comp points (of course at different times) and getting my weekdly cashback... and each of the chips have gone like water (played my $200 chip this morning... 15 or so losing hands of BJ in a row where I never once profited let alone met wr and it was gone)

If you look at that where I have had no such profit or withdrawls for nearly 4 months I can say that in the past week I have played at 2 other rivals (21grand and slotto) where I have indeed made profit and cashed out.

Im just thinking that surely now I have proven that i can deposit $700 in just 2 days then they should reallly be hoping to play their cards right (or wrong in this case) and keep me onboard as a depositor... because if I dont manage any cashable wins of a few hundred $'s with my next bonuses/cashback then I will get my account blocked an uninstall them (for good this time)

[ergopro]

Well. If you think there's something fishy, don't play there
But Psychedelic 60's has extremely high variance...just like Scary Rich 1 and 2.
Agree on shoving cash to Rival without hitting anything can be really frustrating but with that software, it only takes one free spin to cover your losses and some extra. Used to dump my cash to various Rivals in the past but closed last of them earlier this week...just couldn't take the variance anymore. The scenario was almost like to one you described and got totally fed up. Same goes with RTG...

[Nate]

Well is Psychedelic 60's the same slot where you get the Bus during a bonus round and pick up passengers for rewards?

If so, I found i to to be near impossible to get the FS. Wagered tons and even played out a 4k balance trying to get the FS (Which i got once) and paid next to dust....

Nate

[sparkz]

Well is Psychedelic 60's the same slot where you get the Bus during a bonus round and pick up passengers for rewards?

If so, I found i to to be near impossible to get the FS. Wagered tons and even played out a 4k balance trying to get the FS (Which i got once) and paid next to dust....

Nate

It is indeed. The strange thing though was ever since first opening my account at VRC until recently I always gathered it was low varience because it always paid out really well. At that time I was getting at least 3 bonuses per 100 spins.


I should of really gone and deposited elsewhere but it left me thinking "iv never had a bad run like this ever... surely my much deserved win is just about to happen"

[Nate]

It is indeed. The strange thing though was ever since first opening my account at VRC until recently I always gathered it was low varience because it always paid out really well. At that time I was getting at least 3 bonuses per 100 spins.


I should of really gone and deposited elsewhere but it left me thinking "iv never had a bad run like this ever... surely my much deserved win is just about to happen"

Trust me Sparkz, You are NOT alone. I have had some 'once in a lifetime' bad runs at some of the places i play at...

One run gets worse than the last... Haven't played MG for a while, I was wondering if i should migrate back there. My biggest wins and best runs have come there - I have had big hits and bad runs at other providers, but NONE as good as the ones at MG.

[sparkz]

Trust me Sparkz, You are NOT alone. I have had some 'once in a lifetime' bad runs at some of the places i play at...

One run gets worse than the last... Haven't played MG for a while, I was wondering if i should migrate back there. My biggest wins and best runs have come there - I have had big hits and bad runs at other providers, but NONE as good as the ones at MG.

Yea MG seems to come up trumps.

What i hate about rival is its all about what you put in. "jackpot" (having 5 of the jackpot symbol) can pay as little as $20 depending on your stake. Bonuses vary on bet size. On average you get $10 for a 40c spin, $20 for a 60c, $30/$40 for a $1 spin. However when you increase the bet by a fair bit you would expect great wins but get nothing. I had a play where I was betting $5 a spin. Hit the bonus for $40.. and hit free spins getting barely my spin value back.

If you hit the bonus at $5 a spin on a MG you would be sure to get something superb... just a shame my card no longer works at MG casinos

[Nate]

Yea MG seems to come up trumps.

What i hate about rival is its all about what you put in. "jackpot" (having 5 of the jackpot symbol) can pay as little as $20 depending on your stake. Bonuses vary on bet size. On average you get $10 for a 40c spin, $20 for a 60c, $30/$40 for a $1 spin. However when you increase the bet by a fair bit you would expect great wins but get nothing. I had a play where I was betting $5 a spin. Hit the bonus for $40.. and hit free spins getting barely my spin value back.

If you hit the bonus at $5 a spin on a MG you would be sure to get something superb... just a shame my card no longer works at MG casinos

Thats one thing about MG i can attest to. When the FS came, you either had a low win of 20x plus bet or a Big Win... No small x1 and x5 wins for me on the slots i played.

I have hit on Scary Rich 1 and 2... last notable hit a week or 2 ago (that i can remember) is 3.9k off a 20buck bet on SR2. I hit 2k or so earlier with the same bet on SR1... Thats 60's game was a muncher of note...

It is sad that it takes a few $$$$ to hit the FS and u dont even get the equivalent of your bet... Its all too common these days...

Besta Luck

Nate

[De Beuker]

I think its just the variance.
My luck has been rather good recently at VRC.
Beginning of this month I got a 100.- free chip, I used the same approach as always, betting very low, not expecting anything because 7K playthrough would be too much.
Played 3 days on that chip, hitting like crazy on the Scary's and ended with a balance close to 1000.- after completing the WR.
Never played over 0.75 per spin.

Also made the playthrough on my 50.- free birtdaychip 2 weeks ago, cashed out 100.- again.
Psychedelic Sixties gave me 3 wilds in FS and a flower on reel 4, paid 1200 times bet.
Both cashouts were paid within 48 hours, including the 24 hours reversaltime, the fastest I ever got from them.

I agree with you Nate, freespins on Psychedelic Sixties can be next to impossible to hit, the game can easily go over 1000 spins without getting those 3 mopeds.
But dont forget the game can pay as high as 6200x bet on a single spin, the highest I've ever seen, progressives not included ofcourse.
In comparison, I think Scary's 'holy grail' is a little over 2000x bet, and Micro's BDBA has a top payout of 4100x bet (which I had the pleasure to hit once) , and RTG games are capped at 2000x bet.
The game can indeed play like low variance, as long as the Pick-the Hippie-bonus shows up regularly.

The downside is, once these games go into one of their infamous dry spells, these spells can continue for many hours, if not days (never tried that out).
The games are streaky as hell.

For Scary, if its in a paying mood, you can hit the free spins every 20 -30 spins, and if the vampires appear it can run your balance up superfast.
If it wont pay, you wont see any scatters, only if they can block a wild, and 1000 spins or more without FS is no exeption.
And if you hit them, the vampires are nowhere to be found.

100% random results? Nah, dont think so.

This week I played back a balance of 150.- on 0.20/0.25 spins, more than 3 hours on RTG games, over 2500 spins played, triggered ONE freespinround when my balance was down to 13.-, paid 19x bet.

So it happens on all softwares, my last decent win on RTG was back in March, when I got 5 scatters on Mystic Dragon.
Ever since, its a drama.
I'm lucky at Rival now, but I'm sure that won't last forever..

[sparkz]

hmm, give me some of your luck because today I got a $50 free chip (after I asked numerous times for another ) and guess what? less than 3 mins on BJ and gone.

I find thats the only way to play. If a slot slopes your balance right down you can only hope a few winning hands on BJ boosts in back up but too often it doesnt.

Perhaps thoese sorts of things happen at all software but it happens more often at rival.... Im still convinced that some losing switch has been flicked on for me.. Which thanks to VRC means my gambling budget for october has already been spent, hopefully I get cashback and get a nice win to compensate for these bad times :S

[De Beuker]

hmm, give me some of your luck because today I got a $50 free chip (after I asked numerous times for another ) and guess what? less than 3 mins on BJ and gone.

I find thats the only way to play. If a slot slopes your balance right down you can only hope a few winning hands on BJ boosts in back up but too often it doesnt.

Perhaps thoese sorts of things happen at all software but it happens more often at rival.... Im still convinced that some losing switch has been flicked on for me.. Which thanks to VRC means my gambling budget for october has already been spent, hopefully I get cashback and get a nice win to compensate for these bad times :S

You dont want my luck, believe me, lol..
I got lucky at VRC, you dont want to know the rest..
About the streakyness of those games, just check the winner screenshots, 3 vampires 4 times in one session.

Hope your luck turns for the better soon man.