Grand Prive' shows up in Forbes

[Redbush54]

Now if this won't frost ya.....Forbes has an article on Grand Prive'. And they even have a comment section.......this is gonna be good

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/business...145247962.html

[dominique]

That takes the cake.

Comments are a nice feature...

[X-Raided]

What's the deal with Grand Prive Casino?

I read through the Rogue Casinos section and I did not
see any reason (besides kicking affiliates to the curb and
not being loyal when they departed from the U.S.) to
not play there. I haven't opened up an account there yet,
but I skimmed through past threads and did not see
any players not getting paid by this casino.

Could a seasoned CM vet please school me on
why not to trust this casino? It would be highly appreciated.

[Redbush54]

What's the deal with Grand Prive Casino?

I read through the Rogue Casinos section and I did not
see any reason (besides kicking affiliates to the curb and
not being loyal when they departed from the U.S.) to
not play there. I haven't opened up an account there yet,
but I skimmed through past threads and did not see
any players not getting paid by this casino.

Could a seasoned CM vet please school me on
why not to trust this casino? It would be highly appreciated.

If they would steal from affiliates do you think they would still from you?

[X-Raided]

If they would steal from affiliates do you think they would still from you?

That's true... Anyways, I downloaded the software and used
fictitious information (to not receive spam B.S. to my email like that
poor widow I read about) just to access the the practice play.
It was a waste of time.
The main interface was weak and the slots were non-exciting
to say the least.

[rockycatt]

they got your info as you put it in fictitious

so if you ever play there or a sister casino under their umbrella you prolly won get paid because your a multi acounter now

[all4greed]

I received their player magazine a few weeks back and have to say it was very polished. Far nicer than I would have thought.

Never deposited and never cashed out, just play those free bonuses.

[X-Raided]

they got your info as you put it in fictitious

so if you ever play there or a sister casino under their umbrella you prolly won get paid because your a multi acounter now

Fair enough. I removed the software and actually never plan
to play at Grand Prive or any of their sister casinos ever.

[vinylweatherman]

What's the deal with Grand Prive Casino?

I read through the Rogue Casinos section and I did not
see any reason (besides kicking affiliates to the curb and
not being loyal when they departed from the U.S.) to
not play there. I haven't opened up an account there yet,
but I skimmed through past threads and did not see
any players not getting paid by this casino.

Could a seasoned CM vet please school me on
why not to trust this casino? It would be highly appreciated.

You won't see any OBVIOUS reason to avoid them, but they are pretty much a rogue business with no concern for their customers, nor even their other business partners.

Affiliates were "kicked to the curb" when they pulled out of the USA, and since these affiliates were no longer going to be bringing in NEW players, Grand Prive hatched a scheme to ditch their EXISTING contractual obligations to affiliates who had signed the players on a % of loss for the lifetime of the players.

They even tried to get eCogra involved in a whitewash, and deliberately doctored the scope of the investigation (and the evidence) in order to get the result they wanted. When this plan fell apart, Grand Prive were even prepared to kick eCogra to the curb by refusing to co-operate further, even though it was Grand Prive themselves that asked eCogra to do the investigation, and initially said this was so that it could be seen to be independent. All that has come out of this is that they didn't like the direction this "independent investigation" was taking, so they killed it & used legal fineprint to prevent eCogra from taking the matter even further. eCogra are not even allowed the freedom to so much as DISCUSS the details of much of what they did.

Next came the players. The software switch was a true "cut & run", and they even broke their LICENSING rules, and showed complete disregard for the LAW in the jurisdiction where they were licensed.

Rather than correct the breach, they simply "did a runner" to a lesser jurisdiction that was more willing to let them do what they wanted, without inconveniencing their plans by minor points such as OBEYING THE LAW in the jurisdiction that has granted them their license.

Grand Prive must be one of the worst operators to actually get thrown out by the KAHNAWAKE, who did NOT go this far with Absolute Poker when THAT scandal erupted.

They may have thought they would get away with it, but did not do their research, the Kahnawake have made efforts to improve the way they operate, and this meant that they could NOT allow Grand Prive to get away with this and spoil their efforts.

Having got rid of MGS software, the ONLY thing left that is "polished" is their player magazine (see below), which is no good if the software is rubbish.

This new software is probably much cheaper than MGS, and less tested, making me wonder just HOW they are now "screwing players". If they are paying players without fuss, take a closer look at the software

The long dead "Lucky Chance" casino ALWAYS paid fast, and ALWAYS offered 100%+ on each and every deposit. You converted bonus to cash at 2.5% of wagers, even on BLACKJACK!
I played there, and you could even withdraw before meeting WR by throwing away the rest of the bonus.

You might think I made a fortune, but no, the SOFTWARE WAS RIGGED AS HELL! It took me a while to figure out something fishy was going on, but as my investigation got underway, they closed down. My suspicions were confirmed by another member calculating that if their video poker game did NOT cheat, you could never LOSE, because it was 100% bonus every time, 2.5% conversion, and 111% RTP on the VP game

It might be worth doing a similar calculation on the new Grand Prive software to see if the VP and Blackjack games' RTP, bonus, and WR, make sense.

I received their player magazine a few weeks back and have to say it was very polished. Far nicer than I would have thought.

Never deposited and never cashed out, just play those free bonuses.

[spiderlegz]

Have yet to see any proof that they would have actually breached the contracts. They terminated them and thats totally legal AFAIK. Its irrelevant what they "promised" their affiliates. If they would have sticked with the contracts they would have gone bust. Revshare programs only works as long as the affiliates can bring in new customers.

Affiliate programs have done the same multiple times, this just was the first time a major gambling company did it.

So talking about stealing isnt really accurate.