Has The Rival Casino Software Ever Been Audited By a 3rd Party

**DarkMage** · 14th July 2010, 01:59 AM

And if so where can I find said audit?

**takethemoney** · 14th July 2010, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by DarkMage

And if so where can I find said audit?

Very good question. I have deposited a few times at Vegas Regal....never won anything, of course. What is more alarming to me is out of 120 free chips I have taken, you would think that there should be one or two winning sessions in there. Nada....not even close to playthrough. People should also be asking if RTG has been audited any time this year.

**winbig** · 14th July 2010, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by takethemoney

Very good question. I have deposited a few times at Vegas Regal....never won anything, of course. What is more alarming to me is out of 120 free chips I have taken, you would think that there should be one or two winning sessions in there. Nada....not even close to playthrough. People should also be asking if RTG has been audited any time this year.

I've cashed out on 2 ND chips from VR out of about 10. With Rival's, you have to be extremely lucky to cash out a penny.

**DarkMage** · 14th July 2010, 05:08 AM

This is the standard tagline from any Rival Casino FAQ..google the quote and see a bunch of Rival casinos show up in the results.

All games results are determined by Rival's cryptographically secure random number generator which has been independently tested and confirmed to provide suitably random sequences of numbers. Independent auditors audit payouts from time to time.

If that statement is true then can that information be made available to the public? If not why not...

If I ran a casino and the software had a 3rd party audit showing that everything was on the up and up I would proudly make the audit available to the public..

All I am asking is for Rival to provide to the public what they claim to have in their FAQ

**FourTeller** · 14th July 2010, 05:10 AM

An interesting question and one I recently (after a prolonged blackjack run from hell) asked a live chat rep at Vegas Regal, who then dodged it repeatedly before eventually directing me to the official website - where, of course, there was nothing to be found

Edit:

Originally Posted by DarkMage

This is the standard tagline from any Rival Casino FAQ..google the quote and see every Rival casino show up in the results.

Yes, I've seen the above quote but, as implied, it's rather meaningless without knowing who is doing the games testing and when, not to mention publishing the results of any payout audits.

**jetset** · 14th July 2010, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by DarkMage

This is the standard tagline from any Rival Casino FAQ..google the quote and see a bunch of Rival casinos show up in the results.

If that statement is true then can that information be made available to the public? If not why not...

If I ran a casino and the software had a 3rd party audit showing that everything was on the up and up I would proudly make the audit available to the public..

All I am asking is for Rival to provide to the public what they claim to have in their FAQ

I agree. And many casinos have a link to their independent RNG certification.

Whilst it's not the be-all and end-all in terms of testing, it is at least an attempt to give players the assurance that the software is fair and efficient.

**Casinomeister** · 14th July 2010, 03:04 PM

The Random Number Generator is certified by Certainkey.com That's it as far as I know.

**Casinomeister** · 14th July 2010, 03:57 PM

Some have TST payouts listed on their sites. Here is Ruby Royal's
http://static.rubyroyal.com/storage/...n%20Letter.pdf

**FourTeller** · 25th July 2010, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

The Random Number Generator is certified by Certainkey.com That's it as far as I know.

This is what the Vegas Regal rep on another forum recently informed me via PM:

All our games are completely random and are controlled by a random number generator. This generator has been tested by independent parties outside of the casino and has shown to be completely random.

Rival has received RNG certification by CertainKey based on Fortuna-based algorithm for highly prized "cryptographically secure" classification, assuring 100% fair gaming.

It is a hardware-based source of randomness for RNG seeding, a far superior alternative to software-based sources. This is all to ensure a complete random game always for all our players.

A little more detailed and reassuring than a mere 'yes, our software has been tested for fairness' response. I plan to do a bit of research into the bolded part - unless any other tech savvy member(s) here can shed further light on it first

**FourTeller** · 25th July 2010, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by winbig

I've cashed out on 2 ND chips from VR out of about 10. With Rival's, you have to be extremely lucky to cash out a penny.

The aforementioned Vegas Regal rep credited my account with a nice free chip that I made playthrough on just as I got back down to the maximum withdrawable amount