RNG F/U switch.

**rouletteguy** · 4th July 2010, 08:46 PM

So I did some sleuthing on this and found alot of information on "trigger event" software. This is a program that triggers a specific event based on your method of play.

ALLEGEDLY casino's use this on table game software to make it function on the same level as a slot's RNG. A counter measure because you have some level of control (where and how you bet) Essentially it is an F/U switch triggered automatically by analyzing your playing method and causing the game to go against you.

So..........we would need someone with alot more know how than me to explain it. I don't think it would be considered illegal either a slot isn't left up to randomness it is programmed to not pay out to frequently. Again it's one of those thing's you can't prove or disprove

**takethemoney** · 4th July 2010, 11:34 PM

I believe something like this exists. How else can I explain taking probably 800 free chips on RTG and Rival software and never hitting anything. Also have never won anything on comps.

**lost2much** · 5th July 2010, 01:19 AM

I'm really wondering about this due to my long and very paiful losing streak at Inetbet. It is as bad as 3Dice (maybe worse!) in the RTP area. I am placing the very minimum bets (.40-.50) per spin. No play time, no enjoyment, just deposit and lose over and over again. If there is a magic switch, I sure need to figure out how to flip it back my way. So tired of the constant beatings at Inet that I am considering leaving them. That leaves quite a chunk of cash each month to someone else. Which of you trusted casinos wants it?? Make me an offer!!

**just play** · 5th July 2010, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by lost2much

I'm really wondering about this due to my long and very paiful losing streak at Inetbet. It is as bad as 3Dice (maybe worse!) in the RTP area. I am placing the very minimum bets (.40-.50) per spin. No play time, no enjoyment, just deposit and lose over and over again. If there is a magic switch, I sure need to figure out how to flip it back my way. So tired of the constant beatings at Inet that I am considering leaving them.

This is so weird! I could have wrote this post word for word.

I don't think there is a switch...lol...but I do believe there is something in the casino programming that allows the casinos to make someone win/lose when they please. No, I don't have proof, but that is my opinion. They are programmed to have a payout %, why not have a win/lose program?

I uninstalled a few casinos this afternoon, it's just not very fun anymore, I try with a bonus, without a bonus, bla bla bla.

**Jasminebed** · 5th July 2010, 03:00 AM

I don't think there is one, at least not on a player by player basis anywhere I've played.

RTGs might tighten the RTP, either across the board on or some games.

Honestly, if there was a switch, I think I should win more than I do.

If I thought the games were anything but random (please note that weighted or sucky does not mean not random), I'd give up playing there.

**AuntieIdiot** · 5th July 2010, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by just play

This is so weird! I could have wrote this post word for word.

I don't think there is a switch...lol...but I do believe there is something in the casino programming that allows the casinos to make someone win/lose when they please. No, I don't have proof, but that is my opinion. They are programmed to have a payout %, why not have a win/lose program?

I uninstalled a few casinos this afternoon, it's just not very fun anymore, I try with a bonus, without a bonus, bla bla bla.

I have noticed a few times when I'm on a good winning streak at one (RTG)casino, I also do very well on other RTGs. And the same happens when I'm on a horrible losing streak, I lose at any RTG that I might play at. This has been the case (horrible playtime) for me for the last month and half or so at RTGs. I can't hit anything at any any of them. It makes me think that if there were a switch or some win/lose programming going on, its coming straight from RTG...not just the individual casinos.

I too have uninstalled several RTG casinos today. I haven't closed my accounts yet, but I'm sure that will happen soon enough. Deposit after deposit lasting minutes gets rather old after awhile. Oh, the good ole days, when a small deposit could get you hours or even days of playtime, and an occassional nice cashout here and there. Well, it was fun while it lasted.

**love2winalot** · 5th July 2010, 03:57 AM

Hiya: I do not think such a switch exist, for the following reason. There are a lot of table players who do think there is. A lot of them are a lot smarter than you or I. If they/you truely believe this to be true, then you would simply do the following.
Bet the next to last color to hit in Roulette. You Win on streaks of the same color, and you win on the zig zag. The combination that beats you is the double zig zag. rr-bb-rr-bb-rr.

If there was a switch, then the switch has to be set to make this double zig zag appear. You would see it at the 4th bet, "rr-bb", and adjust your bet accordingly. This make the game, 'Predictable", and thus beatable.

I think this is more of varience, "against your betting style", that happens sometimes vs there being a switch. The only way to have a switch is in games like, War or BJ, when they could stack the deck. imhop.

**lost2much** · 5th July 2010, 04:18 AM

Yeah, the only switch I know of for sure, is my personal SWITCH to somewhere else if things don't get better!! I may just have to SWITCH my ass over to the Indian casino up the road, can't be any worse returns than what I'm getting online these days!

**just play** · 5th July 2010, 04:30 AM

Not to change the subject, but just for my own knowledge...do people really win more at land casinos? (Not including comps/food/drinks/etc.)

Aren't the odds stacked against us there too? Especially for me, being a slot player?

If many of you say yes, I might have to take a few extra pills and venture over to Connecticut. I went to Foxwoods once and lost about $200 in 1/2hour-hour on slots. (this was about 15 years ago)

**rouletteguy** · 5th July 2010, 04:32 AM

Make's you wonder doesn't it. Summer is slow for online casino's hence the crazy bonuses I've been offered. So if money is tight why not tighten up the purse strings? Do the math 98% pay out leaves 2% to pay the unvarying bills.
9 months out of the year 2% is relatively stable 3 month's it takes a face plant.you would have to pay the bills with a much smaller 2% or.........lower pay outs for 3 month's and raise them slightly for 9 month's. It's a business not a charity. If I was losing I'd lower my payout percentage.