Yes that Video Poker game IS rigged!

[vinylweatherman]

............. Consider the slot standing in a B&M casino. That one player can play for an hour and lose an entire bankroll just to have someone else immediately walk up and jackpot on the next pull is a familiar scenario to all of us. Did the second player know any tricks? Not likely as the only user interface possible is the bet size and combinations of lines played and coins per line - hardly anyting that could be applied to slots in general considering the variety of games, lines, symbols, etc. ...........

Speak for yourself mate

[bernynhel]

:thumbs up: i'd like enzo to comment on this

Oh sure, Enzo's gonna give up the game like that! If you believe that then you'll believe any of the available data on Zeitgeist. Not that I'm saying it isn't all true. I just don't get the motive for it if it is. Call me a cynic.

My point is this: What official, objective, regulative body has verified that the claims made by any online gaming operator that the performance of their casino games are consistently true and accurate by having knowledgeable inspectors who are also capable of fully understanding every command in every line of text of software programming be allowed access to and scrutinize every page of programming used to operate those games? Until that happens I take any such claims I take with a grain of salt.

That said, bring Enzo on I wouldn't mind hearing his view, either.

Speak for yourself mate

What I meant to say was: "Did the second player know any tricks? Not likely unless it was vinylweatherman" that is!

[rockycatt]

Speak for yourself mate

i see 5.00 a spin

[retlaw]

bernynhel,

As you have much experience with VP, I would be interested in your opinion (and the opinion of other players) about the following:

I play VP on a daily basis on MG casino's and there is some strange thing happening during years, for which I have no explanation at all.
When I get a pat 4 to a RF or 4 to a SF, I usually don't get the RF or SF.(much less than the 1/47 statistically expected)
However the next hand I get the missing card (for the RF or SF) on exactly the same place where I needed it for the RF or SF.
I don't write it down, but I think this happens about 1/5 times (much more than statistically expected)
Sceptics will say it is pure coincidence, but it is hard to believe.

[Nifty29]

Hey Vinyl - are putting in a bid for the most posted screenshot of all time??

[bernynhel]

...I play VP on a daily basis on MG ...When I get a pat 4 to a RF or 4 to a SF, I usually don't get the RF or SF.(much less than the 1/47 statistically expected)...However the next hand I get the missing card (for the RF or SF) on exactly the same place where I needed it for the RF or SF...I think this happens about 1/5 times...Sceptics will say it is pure coincidence, but it is hard to believe.

If you had, during previous gamerounds leading up to the situation you are describing, been consistently holding unsuited facecards, I might say that the game is telling you, "See! This is what you could have had if you had been discarding unsuited faces like bernynhel says!" But that might be a bit over the top even for me. However, I do believe that if you had been holding the unsuited faces on the left and discarding all others, you might have had a better chance of drawing the fifth card to those royal and straight flushes. I play MG VP too. Nearly since they've been in existence. But I have always played the way I've described and haven't had the software taunt me so viciously.

I've only had a few royals and straight flushes come from four cards pat dealt. Some have been a dealt pat straights with one card unsuited to the other four. For example 10h,Jh,Qc,Kh,Ah. But I have also drawn four cards to royal and straight flushes when I held only the one face card on the left or, the exception, the A on the far right. Recently I held suited 10,A and drew the other three for the rf.

In any case, as VP is actually a slot as opposed to a "live" card game, players with expectations of the cards behaving as cards which are randomly "shuffled" between every hand are often disappointed. And I would remind your "skeptics" that there's no such thing as a coincidence. I would tend to believe that the game is deliberately taunting you before I would believe that!

[bernynhel]

Hey Vinyl - are putting in a bid for the most posted screenshot of all time??

That screen shot is from the 21st century, at least, right?

[4 of a kind]

When I get a pat 4 to a RF or 4 to a SF, I usually don't get the RF or SF.(much less than the 1/47 statistically expected)
However the next hand I get the missing card (for the RF or SF) on exactly the same place where I needed it for the RF or SF.

In the past year I've seen this exact scenario at least 50 times at least, probably way more. In fact I've seen this more then once during one session.

[bernynhel]

In the past year I've seen this exact scenario at least 50 times at least, probably way more. In fact I've seen this more then once during one session.

I have too, actually. Sometimes the draw pulls a card to pair, sometimes a straight, sometimes a flush and probably most often, no hand. Rarely has that deal ended in a straight or royal flush for me. Next time it happens, I'm going to try discarding all 5 cards. lol

[Nifty29]

Actually (and I dont have written stats here...) I have noticed that I am dealt more 4-to-a-royals at 3Dice than any other software by at least a factor of 3. I have still not hit one to date btw.

Ive lost track of how many times Ive played 3Dice VP and said "oh geez not again" and my wife has said "what happened?" and I explain that once again Ive been dealt this hand and didnt get the RF.

I can pretty much gaurantee Ive had that dealt hundreds of times to me without success, so it does make one wonder about the coding theory.

Ive always used correct strategy but Im considering giving it a one month trial with Berns idea. Of course, Bern will also be receiving a visit from Rocco and Benny if I happen to lose my shirt......