More MGS cheating

[Nifty29]

HI Gang

I thought I would have a pop at the $20k weekender today as I do every week.....and look at the leaderboard.

Looks like one guy is gonna collect over $8k from 2 accounts....he also has "Jopae1" who is currently 40th.

So, this person gets 15 chances and I get 5. How is that fair?

I wish someone from MGS would come out and categorically state if this is allowed. Ive always understood it isnt, so if something had changed it hasnt been well publicized.

Its bad enough with the freerolls for $50 etc, but these tourneys are expensive and its hard to win anything if someone else has triple the chances to win.

 

[De Beuker]

Funny also is how these cheaters always seem to end in the top places, huh?
I mean, if I had 50 chances, I would concider myself VERY lucky if ONE of them resulted in a place with the first 10.
This dude grabs place 1 and 2...
Just like the other dude did at Nedplay, and even more at Jackpot Factory..
Some kind of relationship between these 2?

 

[bryand]

I've played these tourneys and the probability of someone placing first and second has to be close to zero. Other screen shots show the same thing happening. Its time for MG to publicly address this ongoing issue.

 

[bernynhel]

HI Gang

I thought I would have a pop at the $20k weekender today as I do every week.....and look at the leaderboard.

Looks like one guy is gonna collect over $8k from 2 accounts....he also has "Jopae1" who is currently 40th.

So, this person gets 15 chances and I get 5. How is that fair?

I wish someone from MGS would come out and categorically state if this is allowed. Ive always understood it isnt, so if something had changed it hasnt been well publicized.

Its bad enough with the freerolls for $50 etc, but these tourneys are expensive and its hard to win anything if someone else has triple the chances to win.

Used to be if you were assigned a tourney alias at one MG site, it was picked up and recognized if you wanted to enter tournaments at other MG sites. They just changed all of that so even among casinos belonging to the same group, you have to choose a new, unique alias for each MG casino if you're entering a tournament at a site for the first time.

I have a MG tourney alias I've had for years that worked platform-wide up until a few months ago, now alluvasudden I've got a half a dozen. It still works at all of the casinos that prompted me for a tourney name before the changes took effect, and the new names were created lately at sites when I was no longer prompted for an existing name but, instead, was prompted to create a new alias for each site.

 

[RobWin]

I've played these tourneys and the probability of someone placing first and second has to be close to zero. Other screen shots show the same thing happening. Its time for MG to publicly address this ongoing issue.

Whatever you do bro, just don't hold your breath waiting on that one to happen..
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[Peter-Jan]

I've played these tourneys and the probability of someone placing first and second has to be close to zero. Other screen shots show the same thing happening. Its time for MG to publicly address this ongoing issue.

My thoughts exactly.

Although I think someone has found a loophole in their system rather than that they are 'favoring' certain accounts, as I assume they wouldn't be so stupid to use similar account names if they did.

 

[Roanan]

Although Jackpot Capital has chosen to completely ignore the fact that this is happening on their site and have refused to answer any emails, I do know for a fact that Microgaming themselves ARE actively investigating this issue right across the board. (I have been asked not to reveal the private discussions I have been having with their representatives)
The Christmas season is the main reason for the perceived delays but things will be sorted out from the top down.

 

[RobWin]

Although Jackpot Capital has chosen to completely ignore the fact that this is happening on their site and have refused to answer any emails, I do know for a fact that Microgaming themselves ARE actively investigating this issue right across the board. (I have been asked not to reveal the private discussions I have been having with their representatives)
The Christmas season is the main reason for the perceived delays but things will be sorted out from the top down.

Jackpot Capital is an RTG software, did you mean "All Jackpots" casino?
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[est129]

Probably he means jackpot factory group...

 

[Roanan]

Jackpot Capital is an RTG software, did you mean "All Jackpots" casino?
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Probably he means jackpot factory group...

Yes, I did mean the Jackpot Factory group.

The CM rep, and their support have blatantly refused to respond to this issue.

I haven't been monitoring them as I don't have an account, and although they are 'accredited', their complete silence on this issue guarantees that I never will.

 

[bernynhel]

Maybe I should have posted a tad differently: To think that MG didn't know exactly what they were doing, after all these years of site-wide "playername" recognition, by requiring tourney entrants to register a new and unique "playername" for each casino upon entering a tournament at all sites where entrants had not previously played in a tourney, is, to say the least, a little naive.

Check it out:

Whereby lonely little Jopae used to pay $X to win a tournament, he must now pay $X x (whatever it takes NOW to win the same tourney cuz a bunch a other players got hip TOO just they weren't a bunch a dumb-asses, like Jopae and, when so prompted, chose dis-similar "playernames" so as not to give up so much game as evident by the existence of this thread). But don't think they're not there just like Jopae1, Jopae2, and if Jopae3, 4 & 5 weren't enough to get to the top, Jopae5...jopae99.999, if necessary, depending on the purse, which by the way, is the same whether 50 or 5,000 entrants, as far as MG is concerned.

So instead of profiting $X on any given tournament, MG and MG operators new and improved profit is $X x (all the Jopae1s to Jopae99.999s in the system who got hip TOO) + (higher fees from their licensees when they can point to exponentially growing tournament revenue + exponentially expansion of player tournament participation across all MG sites)

Funny also is how these cheaters always seem to end in the top places, huh?...

"Cheaters"? You mean MGs "top" tournament customers, don't you? Microgaming's silence on this some sort of oversight? Jackpot City refuses to respond to angry queries? DUH!

The moment Microgaming ever does comment on this they will become instant, (poof!), liars and fatmouths. Again. And if you think an operator is going to respond before MG, lolup: not even gonna apologize for a second lolup, here) when all they ever do is hide behind the platform - privilege included in the license fee), then I got a lil bridge in Brooklyn that I think you really, really might want to have a look at.

 

[silcnlayc]

Maybe Dogboy001 would have an insight as to why this is happening since he is in the know on all these casinos tech wise??

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[winbig]

What if these are just simply house players put into place so that MGS only has to pay out as little as possible?

This would explain why the same people get #1 and #2 quite often.

Unless they've figured out a way to cheat the system themselves.

 

[DogBoy001]

Maybe Dogboy001 would have an insight as to why this is happening since he is in the know on all these casinos tech wise??

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Sorry, have to bite my tongue on this one, as I do on numerous non-RTG threads.
Yes, I'm aware of the system functionality of numerous software providers, but this knowledge was acquired while working with them at a previous company, and as such I will not disclose any information.

Woooof

 

[bernynhel]

What if these are just simply house players put into place so that MGS only has to pay out as little as possible?

This would explain why the same people get #1 and #2 quite often.

Unless they've figured out a way to cheat the system themselves.

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Oh, gee, I never thought of that. Hmmmmmm.....let's see now...Microgaming goes through all this trouble of enabling players to register unlimited tournament playernames whereby they can increase volume and profits exponentially for themselves and their operators, or, go through the exact, same trouble and expense, PLUS PAY A WHOLE ARMY OF NEW EMPLOYEES HIRED TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF HOURS PLAYING IN THEIR OWN TOURNAMENTS X (INFINITE FICTICIOUS PLAYERNAMES) JUST TO REDUCE THE COSTS OF OFFERING TOURNAMENTS.

You're absolutely right, winbig!

How stupid of me.

Disregard my previous post.

Now click your heels together three times and repeat after me...

 

[winbig]

Oh, gee, I never thought of that. Hmmmmmm.....let's see now...Microgaming goes through all this trouble of enabling players to register unlimited tournament playernames whereby they can increase volume and profits exponentially for themselves and their operators, or, go through the exact, same trouble and expense, PLUS PAY A WHOLE ARMY OF NEW EMPLOYEES HIRED TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF HOURS PLAYING IN THEIR OWN TOURNAMENTS X (INFINITE FICTICIOUS PLAYERNAMES) JUST TO REDUCE THE COSTS OF OFFERING TOURNAMENTS.

You're absolutely right, winbig!

How stupid of me.

Disregard my previous post.

Who said that these house players had to be human?

They created the software, they can create a bot to play, just the same. Except that the software is programmed to give these bots a 1243% RTP in these tournaments

[/conspiracy theory]

 

[silcnlayc]

DogBoy001: Sorry, have to bite my tongue on this one, as I do on numerous non-RTG threads.
Yes, I'm aware of the system functionality of numerous software providers, but this knowledge was acquired while working with them at a previous company, and as such I will not disclose any information.

Woooof

Understood...

 

[bernynhel]

Who said that these house players had to be human?

They created the software, they can create a bot to play, just the same. Except that the software is programmed to give these bots a 1243% RTP in these tournaments

[/conspiracy theory]

vs increased profits??? C'mon!!! And so how do you explain that, in addition to the creation of an army of in-house bots , they have also enabled players to register practically unlimited numbers of tournament "playernames" or aliases which could result in continue and rebuy purchase increases by exactly the same (number of new "playername" additions) x (rebuy and/or continue offers)? And don't say, "The creation of the in-house bot army inadvertantly caused the regular-player-multiple-'playername'-bug"! You're better than that.

Sorry, have to bite my tongue on this one, as I do on numerous non-RTG threads.
Yes, I'm aware of the system functionality of numerous software providers, but this knowledge was acquired while working with them at a previous company, and as such I will not disclose any information.

Woooof

Prosecution rests.

 

[Nifty29]

Yes its clear that if MGS does anything about this issue it is going to cost them a lot of money.......and I cant see them jumping at that can you??

I wonder if maybe that is why they have allowed a new alias at every casino, to enable those with a large bankroll to part with more of their hard-earned to almost 'buy' a decent prize.

I have to also agree that its pretty amazing that the same player can win both first and second prize, but I guess if they have had dozens of rebuys then anything is possible.

As someone else said, I suggest we dont hold our collective breaths.

Roanan has got some wheels in motion in regards to freerolls, but they are a different animal and cost the casino practically nothing compared to the 20k weekender.

 

[Mavin1]

I think what MG should be doing to make the tournaments a bit more fair to all playing them is limit a player to one entry per tournament and not be allowed to enter the same tournaments at sister casinos, so they can't monopolize the top spots.
JMO.

 

[4 of a kind]

I can't believe this thread... Another of the many similar past ones with obvious proof of something is rigged.

Why would anyone even consider being part of this obvious tournament bullshit? Don't you have enough problems just trying to get a fair game straight up?

DogBoy a friend of this forum won't even talk. Do you really expect someone else that actually knows exactly what's going on like the Fairy Godmother to fly out of cyberspace, and tell all you tournament players to stop playing cause it's rigged and you're getting screwed. Not once has anyone come forward in the past. Do you think these people wherever they are, are saying "Oh No!! there's a negative thread on casinomiester, they must have noticed something". Isn't it also obvious what is said here pretty much only means something to us the members.

Please give this shit a break and start recognizing what you're dealing with.

How many of these threads have to be posted before anyone catches on?


Just an additional note here I was a high roller years ago at Golden Palace when they were flying high and before they were considered rogue. (Before UIGEA) Once a week during the weekdays to promote deposits, they offered a random free $1,000.00 dollar cash prize every hour for like 5 hours in a row, with no attachments. (you could actually cash it out if you wanted) The player picked had to be playing and was supposed to be a random pick. I would call and of course was well known with all the reps. their, and always was given two 1k alleged random wins each time it was offered. This bullshit random crap ran once a week for 5 weeks in a row. That's right I won 10 times. In addition whenever I had a cash out which was usually large, I always sent the reps their after receiving my payment which if I recall correctly was in Canada a $500.00 western union (to their personal name) to expedite my payouts. I was the ultimate customer and they loved me. To bad they stopped excepting USA players and went rogue.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[silcnlayc]

4 of a kindut that in your pipe and smoke it.

I would rather hug you but I wouldn't want you to think it was personal...oke: , oh what the devill, consider yourself hugged!

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[bernynhel]

I think what MG should be doing to make the tournaments a bit more fair to all playing...

Exactly what they wont do. They just changed the registration process to make multiple entries for each player possible a couple of months ago so why would they change it back? They now have each player able to enter for as many aliases registered and potentially buyinig continues and/or rebuys for each alias?

Why would anyone even consider being part of this obvious tournament bullsh...Just an additional note here I was a high roller years ago at Golden Palace when they were flying high and before they were considered rogue. (Before UIGEA)...

Yeah! They were the shiznit back in the day, huh! Remember when they bid on that chick's forehead to tattoo their logo on? They won the auction for $10k on eBay and the chick went through with it? Isn't that what rogued 'em? Or was it all B.S. and I was too high to know any better? LOL Golden Palace and Grand Online. I hit a Js or Better rf @ $5 and 10 minutes later in the same session another rf @ $25 at GP and one week to the day later another $25 rf on Js or Better at GOL I really miss that shit! Back then both sites had a max payout of $3k or $4k/week so I was a happy camper for a while there at $8k/week! Those were the days boyeee!!! You got that right!

Still. I don't see why you gotta bust a grape over what anyone else wants to post. Nobody's trying to tell you to stifle alla your hot air. Specially when you wanna use the very thread your whining about the existence of as an opportunity to let everyone know what a high roller you used to be. We'd a let you do that without all the negativity.

But thanks for the "smoke"! What else you got for my "pipe"?

 

[bernynhel]

Yes its clear that if MGS does anything about this issue it is going to cost them a lot of money.......and I cant see them jumping at that can you??...I wonder if maybe that is why they have allowed a new alias at every casino, to enable those with a large bankroll to part with more of their hard-earned to almost 'buy' a decent prize...I have to also agree that its pretty amazing that the same player can win both first and second prize, but I guess if they have had dozens of rebuys then anything is possible...

The only part of this I find amazing is that they let Jopae register multiple "playernames" and all of em are Jopae, thus, spilling the beans so blatantly. lol

 

[4 of a kind]

Still. I don't see why you gotta bust a grape over what anyone else wants to post. Nobody's trying to tell you to stifle alla your hot air. Specially when you wanna use the very thread your whining about the existence of as an opportunity to let everyone know what a high roller you used to be. We'd a let you do that without all the negativity

Nothing what so ever at all to do with how much of a high roller I use to be. How else would you expect me to explain this particular incident that actually took place without details in an attempt to point out what could be done online. I certainly never made a single post attempting to impress anyone here ever about my finances, past or present. Why would you want to take my point out of context and suggest I have a need to blow my own horn? I'm a little to old for that childish nonsense. I would have to assume based on your ridicules comment you are not. Judging by your post above it might appear that your more concerned about a topic of this type.

Most people here are capable of grasping a serious point when presented with true hard facts of what could actually be done online. It has become obvious with this tournament format that it's not a fair game.

Unfortunately it's the posters like yourself, regardless how many times something is brought to your attention that just seem to never catch on. Instead you would prefer to carry on about it day after day trying to figure out how it's being done. You of all posters should know by now that nothing will be addressed. Maybe when it comes to these topics you should spend your posting time warning players and pointing out to them to avoid playing tournaments. Similar to warning players about rogue casinos.

Maybe it's time you recognize and respect the power that comes with possessing anonymity in cyberspace, especially when it comes to gambling, and proceed with much more caution then you believe is necessary.

 

[Nifty29]

Yup 4 of a kind is right....there is something fishy about these MG tourneys. Its amazing how many times you see the same names in the top 10 where all the money is. I know there are only about 600 players each week, but you would expect a decent spread wouldnt ya??

Im floored by that GP story Did you really send money to the reps to get your cashouts quick?? Wow. You know, it says something about the professionalism of the casino staff and management that they would allow you to do that. I couldnt see Pat at 32Red or Enzo at 3Dice allowing their employees to take cash from players as appreciation for 'favors to come'. Along with you 'winning' those 'random' draws.....its no wonder they are rogue these days, as that in itself if disgraceful behaviour. Imagine all the players out there thinking they really had a chance! (none of it is your fault of course....I doubt any of us would have said 'no')

DogBoy a friend of this forum won't even talk

In fairness to the mutt man.....I think its a case of 'cant' rather than 'wont'. Considering he reveals everything he can under normal circumstances (which is more than RTG or MG or Rival themselves do) Im certain he would tell if he was able.

 

[4 of a kind]

Im floored by that GP story Did you really send money to the reps to get your cashouts quick?? Wow. You know, it says something about the professionalism of the casino staff and management that they would allow you to do that.

Yes I did... Things have changed since then, but I would still bet if you made the right connections today online money still buys favors. Sort of like walking into a 4 star overbooked restaurant without reservations. Take care of the right person and your dining ahead of the line with a window and water view...

 

[pmhcfc]

What if these are just simply house players put into place so that MGS only has to pay out as little as possible?

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Well, if it's good enough for a certain other casino then it'll be good enough for MG.

 

[Mavin1]

I myself have played in many tournaments over the years, but have never once paid for it. I will only play the freebie tourney and then forget it. Don't even know why I bother doing that.
My reasoning is that no matter what casino platform I have entered tourneys, right off there are these few players that have a gazillion points on games you know are pretty much impossible to make a fraction of a gazillion. So I knew the whole thing was already set against the real player and I feel that with all tourney's, either you are already defeated before you enter or you have to be willing and able to buy your way to the top prize and having done that I can't help but wonder what was this persons motive if they have bought the prize?
But here is a vary recognized form of "Cheating" as you say, by casinos and yet people think it can't be possible for there to be line win payout cuts by these very same casinos, kind of contradictory don't you think.

 

[bernynhel]

Nothing what so ever at all to do with how much of a high roller I use to be. How else would you expect me to explain this particular incident that actually took place without details in an attempt to point out what could be done online. I certainly never made a single post attempting to impress anyone here ever about my finances, past or present. Why would you want to take my point out of context and suggest I have a need to blow my own horn? I'm a little to old for that childish nonsense. I would have to assume based on your ridicules comment you are not. Judging by your post above it might appear that your more concerned about a topic of this type.

Most people here are capable of grasping a serious point when presented with true hard facts of what could actually be done online. It has become obvious with this tournament format that it's not a fair game.

Unfortunately it's the posters like yourself, regardless how many times something is brought to your attention that just seem to never catch on. Instead you would prefer to carry on about it day after day trying to figure out how it's being done. You of all posters should know by now that nothing will be addressed. Maybe when it comes to these topics you should spend your posting time warning players and pointing out to them to avoid playing tournaments. Similar to warning players about rogue casinos.

Maybe it's time you recognize and respect the power that comes with possessing anonymity in cyberspace, especially when it comes to gambling, and proceed with much more caution then you believe is necessary.

I'm clowning you. Not mad at you. LOL

That said, I thought I had warned players, in multiple, previous posts, when I explained that the relatively, recent change in MG's tournament registration process, implemented only weeks ago after years of site-wide single "playername" recognition, promotes players registering multiple "playernames". Yet, as is evident by subsequent posts, some continue to post as if I hadn't.

 

[bernynhel]

I myself have played in many tournaments over the years, but have never once paid for it. I will only play the freebie tourney and then forget it. Don't even know why I bother doing that.
My reasoning is that no matter what casino platform I have entered tourneys, right off there are these few players that have a gazillion points on games you know are pretty much impossible to make a fraction of a gazillion. So I knew the whole thing was already set against the real player and I feel that with all tourney's, either you are already defeated before you enter or you have to be willing and able to buy your way to the top prize and having done that I can't help but wonder what was this persons motive if they have bought the prize?
But here is a vary recognized form of "Cheating" as you say, by casinos and yet people think it can't be possible for there to be line win payout cuts by these very same casinos, kind of contradictory don't you think.

Well, even before the MG changes I mentioned previously, the number of rebuys and continues offered, often numbering 500 and more, have always been displayed and should have made it obvious to "freerollers" how futile their chances were to register and win without a purchase. This same fact should have, also, made it obvious that these tournaments were being offered for profit. That certain players have often prevailed in these tournaments, repeatedly, merely points to those player's willingness to take up the casinos offers, repeatedly, at a rate far higher than players who have not prevailed. With the recent advent of multiple "playernames" these same players may now prevail in multiple places in the "money" to whatever point the market will bear.

 

[Mavin1]

Well, even before the MG changes I mentioned previously, the number of rebuys and continues offered, often numbering 500 and more, have always been displayed and should have made it obvious to "freerollers" how futile their chances were to register and win without a purchase. This same fact should have, also, made it obvious that these tournaments were being offered for profit. That certain players have often prevailed in these tournaments, repeatedly, merely points to those player's willingness to take up the casinos offers, repeatedly, at a rate far higher than players who have not prevailed. With the recent advent of multiple "playernames" these same players may now prevail in multiple places in the "money" to whatever point the market will bear.

Nothing like a Mega-Monopoly!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Well, even before the MG changes I mentioned previously, the number of rebuys and continues offered, often numbering 500 and more, have always been displayed and should have made it obvious to "freerollers" how futile their chances were to register and win without a purchase. This same fact should have, also, made it obvious that these tournaments were being offered for profit. That certain players have often prevailed in these tournaments, repeatedly, merely points to those player's willingness to take up the casinos offers, repeatedly, at a rate far higher than players who have not prevailed. With the recent advent of multiple "playernames" these same players may now prevail in multiple places in the "money" to whatever point the market will bear.

This is the CRUCIAL point. Feeling about this seems to show this point may have been reached, with an almost unanimous feeling that merely doing what MGS have now allowed is cheating. Where players are choosing similar playernames, they make it so VERY OBVIOUS what is happening, for which we should be THANKING them. Now that the effect this change has had is being seen (a minority of players being able to monopolise the high paying positions by throwing money at the event), it will convince the majority of players that they have little chance of being in the money unless they also use similar tactics. They may decide to give up instead, and the growth in tournament revenue will go into reverse, because those players currently monopolising the prizes will continue to do so, but it will cost them less because of FEWER recreational players prepared to take a punt with their single alias.
This may eventually make MGS see sense, and return to the one alias across the network rule.

 

[De Beuker]

Ok, so the fact that someone plays the same tourney with multiple aliases can be explained because he playes the same tourney at different casino's.
The 20.000 weekender is ofcourse a network wide tourney, didn't think of that, sorry.
But I still find it very odd that the same player ends in first AND second place.
Ofcourse, it is possible, but very unlikely!
Its in fact very similar to what happened at Nedplay, and that was definately fraud, because those 30+ aliases have been removed.
That player also won each and every tourney with insane high scores.
I still believe there's more to this.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Ok, so the fact that someone plays the same tourney with multiple aliases can be explained because he playes the same tourney at different casino's.
The 20.000 weekender is ofcourse a network wide tourney, didn't think of that, sorry.
But I still find it very odd that the same player ends in first AND second place.
Ofcourse, it is possible, but very unlikely!
Its in fact very similar to what happened at Nedplay, and that was definately fraud, because those 30+ aliases have been removed.
That player also won each and every tourney with insane high scores.I still believe there's more to this.

This is a bigger worry, if they have found some way to GUARANTEE winning a tournament, then there is a big problem. The most obvious cheat would be "unlimited continues" where players were supposed to have only a fixed number. being able to circumvent the continues counter in the software would enable a cheat to buy their way to a guaranteed first price, and with limited outlay. Unlimited rebuys using multiple aliases would give many attempts, but could NEVER guarantee that one or more of these attempts would land them the top placings. Although they could effectively buy their way to the top by taking a very large number of rebuys, it would very likely cost them more than the prize money they were winning, hence no MOTIVE to cheat in this manner.

 

[bernynhel]

This is the CRUCIAL point. Feeling about this seems to show this point may have been reached, with an almost unanimous feeling that merely doing what MGS have now allowed is cheating. Where players are choosing similar playernames, they make it so VERY OBVIOUS what is happening, for which we should be THANKING them. Now that the effect this change has had is being seen (a minority of players being able to monopolise the high paying positions by throwing money at the event), it will convince the majority of players that they have little chance of being in the money unless they also use similar tactics. They may decide to give up instead, and the growth in tournament revenue will go into reverse, because those players currently monopolising the prizes will continue to do so, but it will cost them less because of FEWER recreational players prepared to take a punt with their single alias.
This may eventually make MGS see sense, and return to the one alias across the network rule.

All very possible scenarios. But does anyone really think that MG is going to change anything as long as their profits, and operator's profits are growing as a result of enabling players to have multiple "playernames" or to even agree that any of it is cheating, at all, and not just good business? The only changes I've noticed in the last couple of months are more tournaments at more MG sites with more entrants with higher winning scores. I doubt that MG enacted these changes because they thought they were enabling anything other than an increased bottom line, let alone, cheating even when they knew, by designl, exactly how and from where the extra revenue must originate.

Perhaps the only thing MG didn't anticipate was that so many players would bother to disguise their multple entries with so many dis-similar "playernames" and that more would have done as Jopae1 - Jopae??? had done and just register at additional sites by sticking on ascending numeric suffixes, the more I think about it, despite my earlier post to the contrary.

 

[vinylweatherman]

All very possible scenarios. But does anyone really think that MG is going to change anything as long as their profits, and operator's profits are growing as a result of enabling players to have multiple "playernames" or to even agree that any of it is cheating, at all, and not just good business? The only changes I've noticed in the last couple of months are more tournaments at more MG sites with more entrants with higher winning scores. I doubt that MG enacted these changes because they thought they were enabling anything other than an increased bottom line, let alone, cheating even when they knew, by designl, exactly how and from where the extra revenue must originate.

Perhaps the only thing MG didn't anticipate was that so many players would bother to disguise their multple entries with so many dis-similar "playernames" and that more would have done as Jopae1 - Jopae??? had done and just register at additional sites by sticking on ascending numeric suffixes, the more I think about it, despite my earlier post to the contrary.

With NEW US players being blocked, and existing ones suffering "death by 1000 cuts", the obvious conclusion to be drawn from increasing tournament participation is that players are now entering the same tournament from a number of casinos. This will result in higher scores overall, simply by chance, since more "samples" will lead to a clearer "curve", with more of the rarer results (very high scores) present.

The fact that some players are VERY OBVIOUSLY playing with very large numbers of aliases will put off players who usually play these "for a bit of fun", but can't afford the entry fees for more than one alias. These "fun" players now have far less chance of getting the top prize with one run, because other players are having many attempts.

The weekender is one where multiple aliases is a distinct advantage, because only 5 rebuys are allowed per individual alias, and only one PRIZE is allowed per alias.

Take the situation where you get a half decent score, but are not sure it is good enough to use the continues. Before, you had to make a decision, rebuy and lose the score, or continue. Now you can keep the score, and switch to a different casino and try to better it. If you can't, you don't lose your original attempt, and can therefore still continue from it. If you get several good starts, you can get several prizes, which when added up may make you better off than had only your highest score been awarded a prize.

The deafening silence from Jackpot Factory and MGS is because this is NOT cheating as far as they are concerned, it was PLANNED, and the change was initially made to suit the Grand Slam, since it would enable players to be granted (or compete for) more than one seat. Initially, it was claimed this was ONLY for the Grand Slam, and we would go back to one alias over the network afterwards. This, however, never happened, and all those extra aliases remain with these players, and players who have yet to register an alias in any MGS casino will automatically get a new one, rather than being forced to use their original network wide one.