3Dice retiring Super Five

[SlotKing]

If I am correct in my assumption, SuperFive was most likely an underperforming game. The games that are introduced need to have an appeal to them... Yes, SuperFive did have an enormous jackpot, but as correctly pointed out above, it hadn't been hit for almost 2 years.

The progressive amount will be spent on boosting the casino wide random jackpot starting tomorrow. Got that confirmed by CS yesterday.

Which is a bunch of garbage if it is the same way as before where a wheel pops up and gets spun and lands on someones name.

It has always been this way Silc. Ever since the random jackpot was started at 3Dice this has always been the way the jackpot (and the daily depositor sweepstakes, when those were turned on) was awarded. If you think it's bad having your name passed by every time, try having your name being one away from the winner - there's a heart stopper for you .

And your statement isn't necessarily true - a lot of people have played SuperFive over the 3 years it's been there, myself included, which means any one of the players who have had the thought of hitting that jackpot still have a chance at winning (at least a part of) it. I admit, it was a fun game to have such a small bet produce sometimes a giant return, but times (and player's habits) change... And besides, Enzo said in the newsletter that it may return someday as an enhanced version.

There are lots of ways of being "random". Since most (if not all) three-reelers are weighted, they could have changed the weighting so that it would pop sooner (in all probability), or even set it to go off on or by a certain date, which I'm sure would have attracted a great deal of interest and play on the machine.

If they altered the weighting, and made it known that they were doing that, it would be unfair to each and every one of the players who had played it up to that point. If they made it go off on a certain date, no one would play it until the day it was set to go off (what's the point chasing a jackpot that is guaranteed not to hit?)

just wondering how right it is to take a Jackpot from 1 game an put it on another

At least they are doing an honorable thing and still giving the jackpot away, albeit in a slightly different manner. I'm sure if they said "We're retiring SuperFive and screwing you out of the jackpot too" an uproar and a half would occur. At least this way, the jackpot is still being awarded.

I'm sure there's a lot of people who could talk until they're blue in the face about how it's not right, how this could have been done, how that could have been done, etc... but the simple fact is, if the game isn't up to (most) player's standards, and the casino's profitability standards, then why keep it? If only a few people are playing a game that was designed to appeal to the masses, retire it, give it a face-lift, and re-introduce it as a bigger and better version a little later on down the road.

I honestly don't see a problem with what they are doing.

[silcnlayc]

SlotKing: but the simple fact is, if the game isn't up to (most) player's standards, and the casino's profitability standards, then why keep it? If only a few people are playing a game that was designed to appeal to the masses

Well, if the game did not produce a winner, only the casino is at fault there , making the game unwinnable...really!

I guess everyone is falling all over themselves holding their breath with excitement over new games such as this, fish.jpg
that give back total squat for wins...maybe it is a cute game , but for returns...PfFfFfTTttt...and I do like 3Dice but this is a bad move IMO..

Maybe just a few played the game...but to churn out crap like the last one above is a little much especially when they are replacing it with games that do nothing but take..I guess someone has to pay for the graphics ..huh? And I have never seen anyone remove a game from play until AFTER a jackpot was cleared..JMO...whatever...

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[SlotKing]

Well, if the game did not produce a winner, only the casino is at fault there , making the game unwinnable...really!

Not true - there probably just weren't enough players playing it to have the jackpot go off in a timely manner.

I guess everyone is falling all over themselves holding their breath with excitement over new games such as this (Coral Clams), that give back total squat for wins...maybe it is a cute game , but for returns...PfFfFfTTttt...and I do like 3Dice but this is a bad move IMO..

You've probably only seen one side of the game. The flip side produces absolutely stellar wins, which are witnessed almost every day by everyone in chat. And it doesn't take long for you to see the flip side... just get 4 or 5 bubbles on any size bet and watch the wins go sky-high. I know that's a tall order sometimes, but it's the truth - sometimes it just takes time to see both sides of the game.

Maybe just a few played the game...but to churn out crap like the last one above is a little much especially when they are replacing it with games that do nothing but take..I guess someone has to pay for the graphics ..huh? And I have never seen anyone remove a game from play until AFTER a jackpot was cleared..JMO...whatever...

We have all known 3Dice to be different from the very start. Just because they are retiring the game before giving the jackpot away in the manner formerly prescribed is no reason to go off. Like I said before, at least the jackpot is still being given away, just in a different manner.

They are trying their damndest to come out with more and more games that have a universal appeal to them... not everyone likes cute fishies and bubbles, but that's their prerogative.

On the flip side, not everyone wants to go to Egypt, shoot pigs and dragons, whack squirrels until their fingers fall off, or spin records all day. But that's why they are trying to expand on their selection of slots - so that people can find games that appeal to them. A retirement of one usually means a better version of it (or a similar game) in the near future.

A true for-the-players casino finds what its players want and attempts to deliver on that. If the casino keeps games that aren't making them any money, and that no one wants to play, they would soon be out of business. Mass appeal is the name of the game.

[CasinoKidd]

Well, if the game did not produce a winner, only the casino is at fault there , making the game unwinnable...really!

I guess everyone is falling all over themselves holding their breath with excitement over new games such as this, fish.jpg
that give back total squat for wins...maybe it is a cute game , but for returns...PfFfFfTTttt...and I do like 3Dice but this is a bad move IMO..

Maybe just a few played the game...but to churn out crap like the last one above is a little much especially when they are replacing it with games that do nothing but take..I guess someone has to pay for the graphics ..huh? And I have never seen anyone remove a game from play until AFTER a jackpot was cleared..JMO...whatever...

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No offense, but to judge a game with a picture of a single bonus round is totally unfair. That's called a SUPER small sample size. Take a look at 100-200 bonus rounds, and then you can start making some conclusions. Personally, I find the clams to be extremely exciting, with massive potential ($200 wins on .25 aren't that hard to hit).

Ultimately, I don't get the move. 3Dice is BEHIND in every other casino I know of, as far as games go - even Wizard gaming has produced more games in it's short history. I recognize that 3Dice focuses on quality, not quantity - but having a handful of videoslots does not work. I mean c'mon, every other casino has some sort of stacked wild / expanding wild game: 3Dice does not. Stacked wild games are HUGELY popular now adays, yet 3Dice slots need to be 'unique'.

I would have been fine with this move if 3-4 slots replaced it, but that does not appear to be the case.

[SlotKing]

Ultimately, I don't get the move. 3Dice is BEHIND in every other casino I know of, as far as games go - even Wizard gaming has produced more games in it's short history. I recognize that 3Dice focuses on quality, not quantity - but having a handful of videoslots does not work. I mean c'mon, every other casino has some sort of stacked wild / expanding wild game: 3Dice does not. Stacked wild games are HUGELY popular now adays, yet 3Dice slots need to be 'unique'.

From the 3Dice Web Site:

As a young and fresh company, 3Dice.com aims to be the alternative in an otherwise uniform market. Our 3D casino software is unique, cutting edge and designed to provide the highest quality digital entertainment.

I think this about sums it up.

[CasinoKidd]

From the 3Dice Web Site:



I think this about sums it up.

That's like saying you're going to be a cable provider and not provide ABC, NBC, CBS or FOX. It's not like they would be the main focus, or the main reason that you chose this provider... but the option is there.

[3Dice]

Hi Guys !

The SuperFive was one of the original games at 3Dice (the very first slotgame infact, before even tut or happy valley). As more slot games were added to the lounge, the play on this game decreased consistently, and after the release of Pentapay the majority of Super Five players moved their play to Pentapay. (which is very similar as far as game play/pay goes).

Its out-of-the-ordinary one line w/o blanks setup, its limited betsizes, and its (source of many frustrations) no-pay lemon symbol made it a bit of an eye-sore in the 3Dice slot selection and confused and agitated new players. Reviving or updating this old game is development-wise the equivalent of a whole new game, an effort we feel is better spent on say - a game with expanding or stacked wilds.

With Pentapay catering to the majority of the SuperFive players we felt it was the ideal time to cut this knot. It's rj was the only remaining hurdle to take and from the options there moving it to the sitewide random jackpot was the most sensible. ( waiting for it to hit could take a long time with this little play - announcing it, then waiting would create new Super Five fans - and moving it into the pentapay creates a strange and unnatural balance among the ring-of-riches set of games. ).

On the subject of how the software displays the RJ winner, it has always been like this and it is a very conscious choice. Other softwares display RJ wins by simply adding it to the balance - a situation that seems confusing at best, and you can find numerous posts of winners that didn't even notice it for several spins. We feel that if the RJ is won, this is not something that
can go by unnoticed. Not only would it be confusing to the winners, it also seems unfair to the other player who might be playing to try and hit that RJ. (and who would move their play if they were aware the RJ was hit.).

If in a while, we notice that retiring SuperFive has created a permanent void, we would not hesitate to put in the effort, and revive it in an updated version. (If it had more than one winline I'd throw in stacked wilds ). We're just trying to please !

Kindest regards,

Enzo

[Trollet]

Hi all!

I had to just make a little post here....

I played that SuperFive from time to time and i have to say that im sad to see it go.. but also happy i wont see the lemons again

I also wanna say that i think 3Dice has a good reason to take it out.. why would they if there wasen't one.
If it hasen't been hit in years and less are playing it now, it could take some time to hit it...
Be happy instead for all the $$ you are gonna save


So... instead of whining my behind off... im gonna THANK YOU 3Dice...
For all the fun you do for the players...every day...24/7...
For all the joy you give to people that doesnt have the chance to get out and do stuff..
For all the gifts i know you did send out to loyal players...i would love to see other casinos do that... HUGE HINT....

Have a wonderful Christmas

(((HUGS))) Trollet

[silcnlayc]

just get 4 or 5 bubbles on any size bet

I have and I was not impressed. Again, we go off on a tangent of would be , could be, maybes..vs actual wins (the Super 5). How many of these are going to be produced? Yes the lemon was a very bad thing and it used to aggravate the heck out of me when I would hit the 5x symbol with them...but at least it was a known thing whereas hitting 4 bubbles (or scatter symbols) could give you squat as I have seen in many of the other games also..Sure, chase them and hope and pray this COULD be the one...when it never is..

I find the clams to be extremely exciting, with massive potential ($200 wins on .25 aren't that hard to hit).

This is the same discussion we had before...everyone saying the "BIG ONE" potential is there..of course it is..but when will we ever see one???Just as this jackpot never went off...we will all be sitting there waiting for the "Big One" that is promised but yet fails to materialize no matter how many and how long one has played it...

I also wanna say that i think 3Dice has a good reason to take it out.. why would they if there wasen't one.

.Yes, take down the game and give us some more that puts hope in one but never comes through....that is the way to make money I guess..

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[SlotKing]

I have and I was not impressed. Again, we go off on a tangent of would be , could be, maybes..vs actual wins (the Super 5). How many of these are going to be produced? Yes the lemon was a very bad thing and it used to aggravate the heck out of me when I would hit the 5x symbol with them...but at least it was a known thing whereas hitting 4 bubbles (or scatter symbols) could give you squat as I have seen in many of the other games also..Sure, chase them and hope and pray this COULD be the one...when it never is..

This is the same discussion we had before...everyone saying the "BIG ONE" potential is there..of course it is..but when will we ever see one???Just as this jackpot never went off...we will all be sitting there waiting for the "Big One" that is promised but yet fails to materialize no matter how many and how long one has played it...

I know it's a tourney mode shot, but this is the "flip-side"... 3 bubbles, getting 2 free swims at an x9 multiplier...