What does "tight" mean

[GGW Laurie]

Okay here is my take. No matter what casino I deposit at latley be it Rival, RTG or Vegas Technology I cannot get decent gameplay. The whole industry seems to be tight right now. This kind of environment will cause players to stop depositing so I do hope the industry loosens up the odds just a tad so that we can get some entertainment value.

Well said and agree 100%...........laurie

[manofsteel]

Tight vs. loose depends on the game. Many casino's publish their payout results for the public and these documents are much better than media stories.

For example, 32red (as does all Microgaming casino's) has a payout report for the month of September which shows a payout rate for table games as 99.04%. That rate is very high considering that most table games have a house edge of over the .96% percent that the casino is taking in. I have even seen some casino's publish a payout of over 100% for some months.

I'm not sure that you can really call a game like roulette tight or loose because you can largely control your variance.

For a game like slots, I think tight vs loose probably applies to variance. As with the other games, you can check the payout for slots with many casinos, but the individual slots don't pay the same. Some are high variance, which means you win less frequently but the payouts are bigger. Lower variance slots are the opposite.

You just need to check out the payout percentages and the variance and decide which game is for you. Some games are fun, allow for relatively long periods of play, but don't pay much. Others games might create large ups and downs with your bankroll, pay out less often, but make up for it all when (if) you hit big.

[liquuid_fusion]

Take it with a pinch of salt if you hear people saying certain slots are tight. It's likely that they have just been unlucky. Slots are such high variance that you can return much less than expected even over thousands of spins.

The only reputable software that I know of where the payout of slots can be changed behind the scenes is RTG.

In the case of MG, Crypto and most other software when people report the games playing "tight" it just means they have been unlucky, given that most slots return 94-96%.

[thorn101]

@liquuid_fusion Good to know, thanks

@manofsteel I found the payout reports for Jackpot City at http://www.ecogra.org/certificates/c...te.aspx?cid=45

Thanks

[NicolasJohnson]

liquuid_fusion said it best. 99.9% of the time, it is just a persons luck/variance.

From an operator's point of view, many days I will see one group of players say a slot is tight while another group will praise how loose it is. I've even see players complain about a slot on a day or week when the slot paid out over 120%+. This is normal with high variance slots where players will either continually lose or continually win.

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager

[footdr]

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I played flash except vip slots also played download version.

just for your information

[takethemoney]

Take it with a pinch of salt if you hear people saying certain slots are tight. It's likely that they have just been unlucky. Slots are such high variance that you can return much less than expected even over thousands of spins.

The only reputable software that I know of where the payout of slots can be changed behind the scenes is RTG.

In the case of MG, Crypto and most other software when people report the games playing "tight" it just means they have been unlucky, given that most slots return 94-96%.

You say this as if you know, so I am going to ask you this:

I recently had some big wins on RTG randoms. Like an idiot I kept working on this one slot, even though it was as if someone hit the switch. It went well over 2000 spins on cleopatra's gold without a bonus round. So, I really have the need to know if my wins caused the slots to suddenly act as though they were completely turned off....like human intervention sent a cooler in on me.

Is it possible that these can be set on the fly on a particular player? I desparately need this answer because if it is affirmative, I can't ever make another deposit at this place, for I know what the result will be. They want their money back and if the operator has this kind of control, I don't stand a chance. I've always felt it was rather suspicious how after a large cashout I can never win at these places again, not matter how many deposits.

[4 of a kind]

You say this as if you know, so I am going to ask you this:

No one here knows for sure. And the select people that do know, we don't know who they are, and if they did know and said they know and told us what they know, we don't know if they really did know in the first place. This is a better kept secret then Area 51...

Online = The Twilight Zone (or better known as Area 52)

[4 of a kind]

You say this as if you know, so I am going to ask you this:

I recently had some big wins on RTG randoms. Like an idiot I kept working on this one slot, even though it was as if someone hit the switch. It went well over 2000 spins on cleopatra's gold without a bonus round. So, I really have the need to know if my wins caused the slots to suddenly act as though they were completely turned off....like human intervention sent a cooler in on me.

Is it possible that these can be set on the fly on a particular player? I desparately need this answer because if it is affirmative, I can't ever make another deposit at this place, for I know what the result will be. They want their money back and if the operator has this kind of control, I don't stand a chance. I've always felt it was rather suspicious how after a large cashout I can never win at these places again, not matter how many deposits.

You might want to read the last couple of pages in the thread titled "Playfair Casino" A casino rep known as CasinoJack made some revealing comments about an operators power to manipulate games at will.