Roulette69 issue - PAB rejected - player upset

[uungy]

As I recall, I cashed out about $1000 from a $50 deposit on the signup bonus- so they didnt really know if I would be back, but they paid me nonetheless. No problems at all.

One thing I CAN gaurantee is that Max and Bryan will ALWAYS treat each PAB fairly and take the players' claim at face value, until such time as evidence appears to the contrary.

If Max banned you for a fraudulent claim, then I would have to say there must be something you're not telling us.....and maybe you know that Max can't tell us for security reasons (i.e. it may reveal how the casinos detect fraud etc)....so he cant really provide all the necessary evidence.

I can't remember a member being re-instated after being banned for a dodgy PAB with a "sorry we got it all wrong" from CM. Why? Because CM doesnt take this decision lightly and he must have been VERY sure of what happened.

If you ARE telling the FULL story, and you are proven right and your membership is re-instated, I will donate $50 to your favorite charity.

Actually there have been cases in the past, and it was a case a while back (couple years ago), so that isnt true.

We are going around in circles. We are going have to wait until Max posts here and everything will be cleared up. This thread is one-sided and we don't know exactly what happened from Max's point of view.

Evidently there was some fraudulent activity going on and they banned them.

I respect everyone's views here, but its not guilty unless proven inncocent.

I work the other way, however when a casino or anyone gives a reason, which once again has come up "we cannot provide details, for fraudlent and security", if anyone actually believes that, I honestly think you should reconsider your views.

I dont know the whole story, but the OP's side is clear, which sounds like they owe the money. Roulette69, are a reputable place, however that doesnt mean they wont mess up.

If you dont know facts, don't base them on someone else's views, have your own reasonig.

I have yet to hear anyone saying "If the government think we need to pay extra taxes, lets go on and pay as much as they want, they know best", have your own opinion, with a reason, dont just hang onto someone elses opinion, if you dont know the reason. Everyone is human, we cxan all make mistakes

[spearmaster]

Well, the OP can prove this elsewhere - it won't happen here. I don't deal with people who BS me, Max, and the entire forum membership.

Oops... did you ban the second account already?

[Casinomeister]

Oops... did you ban the second account already?

Yep, I've had enough silly games for the day.

[NASHVEGAS]

I totally agree with you Matt, Bryan certainly deserves all he makes from his site here. I just wish that he would either make a post or add this info to the site somewhere, to where it will finally be crystal clear once and for all for everyone to see, and clear up any and all mis-conceptions on whether he makes money as an affiliate or not or just from strictly accepting advertising dollars from casinos that want to be listed here or both.
This type of info should not be skewered in anyway IMO. I'm a webmaster/affiliate and I make money from both CPA deals and Rev Share from my affiliate links and banners on my site. It's not any big secret that most affiliates/casino webmasters make their income this way. So I really don't know why Bryan has never just clarified this issue before and then when some new member joins the forum here then they too would be clearly informed as to Bryan's affiliate connections, one way or the other. No room for any mis-conception or mis-understanding that way.

Some webmasters do media buy deals as well with casino affiliate programs.

It's certainly not rocket science..
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Rob, I just wonder if you are basing (and keeping the cat in the bag per se) this on a respected and trusted, loud mouth's casino rep.'s (you know the one who texted Babs the SHILL everyday, sorry POC but I have the posts by Babs the SHILL and the above referenced rep. caused me some ID theft problems which the authorities are well aware of) mouth as he claimed Bryan tried to negoiate an affiliate deal with him but as far as I was told that never worked out. I have no idea if dude's (the spurned rep. at the time as his casino had not yet been accredited) claim is legit and ftr don't give a damn how Bryan's biz model is set up. It is his business as long as potential conflicts of interest are avoided.

P.S.-Disclaimer: I am only on page 4 of this thread!!

[KasinoKing]

Seems many people have skipped over this post; these are the questions I would like to hear definitive answers on too:-

This thread is very confusing. On the one hand the op says he won with his own funds playing slots. On the other hand we have the accusation that he is a fraudster by the casino supported by CM. Can we have some clarification please?

a) Did he win playing slots without a bonus?

b) What is the basis of the accusation of fraud?

If he won playing slots without a bonus what kind of fraudulent behavior justifies confiscation of winnings?

People read this forum so they can decide whether or not a casino is safe to play at, and one of the characteristics of rogues is that they will look for any excuse not to pay a big win. Until we get some clarification, how can we know R69 are not rogue?

KK

[Nifty29]

I gotta say I still cant believe that some people are still giving the OP credit and insisting he be paid.

Considering WE dont have all the facts, and we arent going to, then it comes down to whether we trust the OP (who has shown they are economical with the truth per CMs post) OR Bryan/Max/PAB process.

C'mon guys, its a no-brainer - surely!! To think anything else implies that Bryan is the one who is full of it and cant be trusted...in that case, what are you doing here??? I wouldnt want to spend my time at the house of someone whom I didnt didnt trust.

I can see why Max and Bryan feel like they shouldnt bother.

[spiderlegz]

The reason why some have some doubts is that the OP played slots without a bonus. Seriously no advantage player, gnomer or "syndicate" (and that is?) would do that.

[LonelyHearts]

I gotta say I still cant believe that some people are still giving the OP credit and insisting he be paid.

Considering WE dont have all the facts, and we arent going to, then it comes down to whether we trust the OP (who has shown they are economical with the truth per CMs post) OR Bryan/Max/PAB process.

C'mon guys, its a no-brainer - surely!! To think anything else implies that Bryan is the one who is full of it and cant be trusted...in that case, what are you doing here??? I wouldnt want to spend my time at the house of someone whom I didnt didnt trust.

I can see why Max and Bryan feel like they shouldnt bother.

You have your opinion. And if you don't agree with some of the other people's opinion. You're welcome to stop reading this Thread! I for one would like the answers to those questions also.

[uungy]

I gotta say I still cant believe that some people are still giving the OP credit and insisting he be paid.

Considering WE dont have all the facts, and we arent going to, then it comes down to whether we trust the OP (who has shown they are economical with the truth per CMs post) OR Bryan/Max/PAB process.

C'mon guys, its a no-brainer - surely!! To think anything else implies that Bryan is the one who is full of it and cant be trusted...in that case, what are you doing here??? I wouldnt want to spend my time at the house of someone whom I didnt didnt trust.

I can see why Max and Bryan feel like they shouldnt bother.

No one is implying that anyone is reliable or not. I think we have been getting too many of these "we cant disclose etc", and especially there are still many unsanswered questions.

No one is sayinmg the OP isnt a fraud, but where are the answeres, thats all.

Just my 2 cents

[jackieonweb]

I don't understand why/how someone can defraud a casino by playing their slots without a bonus? Why would they need multiple accounts?

He said he's got nothing to hide so why can't he/we be told what he has done wrong?