Roulette69 issue - PAB rejected - player upset

[LonelyHearts]

If the OP deposited and won with his own money (Without a bonus). And the funds are not stolen. The casino should pay. They can close his account if they feel like it. But if the OP would have lost. Chances are they would have kept his deposit. I've seen underage people in real casinos and get kicked out. But they were paid in full cash if they had chips. Unless the OP committed fraud using funds, then I don't see why the OP shouldn't get his money. If they gonna say the OP had multiple accounts. That's still no reason to deny payment on 100% cash deposit

[sally_bairnish]

he tends to be fair minded on most PAB issues, so maybe he will respond..........laurie

That's because you don't see the ones he refuses as he bans the person from posting again.

This account will probably be banned soon too, he will then say the information about my 'fraud' is confidential or something and expect people to take his word for it. Then their accredited casino can continue to rip off the winners.

[sally_bairnish]

If the OP deposited and won with his own money (Without a bonus). And the funds are not stolen. The casino should pay. They can close his account if they feel like it. But if the OP would have lost. Chances are they would have kept his deposit. I've seen underage people in real casinos and get kicked out. But they were paid in full cash if they had chips. Unless the OP committed fraud using funds, then I don't see why the OP shouldn't get his money. If they gonna say the OP at multi accounts. That's still no reason to deny payment on 100% cash deposit

Thankyou.

Nope I played without a bonus and played slots. I've been reading a lot about casinos since all this started and I don't know of any gain I could have received by depositing my own money into slots and playing games the casino has the advantage on.

You gotta ask yourself, what is the motive behind my 'fraud'?

If I have missed something then someone please educate me.

[mattsgame]

I hope so. I would have just left it, but he called me a fraudster. Quite an accusation really. Even if I did have multiple casino accounts, is that fraud? Also, aren't people only guilty when it is proven? Saying I have broken the law is quite wide of the mark to say the least.

I don't know what u mean here? are u saying you did have multiple accounts?

And in the casino's eyes yes this makes u a fraud/bomus abuser.

If so this is almost against every casino's t&c with some exeptions.

Cheers matt,

[RobWin]

Casinomeister does NOT work under the "affiliate income" model. The site takes paid advertising from accredited casinos. This ensures both a steady income stream, and NO conflict of interest (such as the site making more money if players lose or don't get paid).

Are you certain about that Vinyl? Personally I think you are wrong here. I may be wrong as well but if Bryan were not making any money off of his affiliate banners he has listed here then he would also need no affiliate tags attached to them as well, don't you think. I do agree with you though that the site takes paid advertising from accredited casinos in order to be listed there in the "Accredited Casino List Section".

It would be nice for Bryan to clear this controversial issue up once and for all as there has been way too much speculation on it over the years that continues to pop up several times each year but we are all still left without the true answer. Personally I see no reason at all for any secrecy regarding this.

I have stated in many posts that I too would charge the accredited casinos a listing fee for the exclusive exposure they are guaranteed by being listed on the "Accredited List" but for you to imply that Bryan makes no money as an affiliate is absurd IMO.

Others may have a different opinion as well Vinyl........

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[mattsgame]

If the OP deposited and won with his own money (Without a bonus). And the funds are not stolen. The casino should pay. They can close his account if they feel like it. But if the OP would have lost. Chances are they would have kept his deposit. I've seen underage people in real casinos and get kicked out. But they were paid in full cash if they had chips. Unless the OP committed fraud using funds, then I don't see why the OP shouldn't get his money. If they gonna say the OP had multiple accounts. That's still no reason to deny payment on 100% cash deposit

Im sorry but i have to disagree. Almost every casino has it in black and white that multiple accounts is a no no and vialates there t&c and winnings will be void if found.

[LonelyHearts]

Im sorry but i have to disagree. Almost every casino has it in black and white that multiple accounts is a no no and vialates there t&c and winnings will be void if found.

True. But people open up multiple accounts for a number of reasons. The main reason is to get signup bonus. The OP stated he busted out of the bonus and deposit with his own funds. If the casino accepts a bet. Then the casino should pay the winnings. Let's say the OP has 10 multiple accounts. The casino should refund every one of those accounts. But they arent because they accepted the bet and the OP lost. As long as the OP was opening accounts and losing. The casino was accepting the bets and could care less about the number of accounts. If they did, they would have put a detection ahead of him opening an account. But when it was the casino time to pay the piper. They wanted to check their records. If though they may or may not caught the OP doing his cashout. I am willing to bet if the OP would turn around and open another account at the same casino. They would accept the bet and if lost. Nothing would be said!

[sally_bairnish]

I don't know what u mean here? are u saying you did have multiple accounts?

And in the casino's eyes yes this makes u a fraud/bomus abuser.

If so this is almost against every casino's t&c with some exeptions.

Cheers matt,

Let me get this straight. I DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS. I'm just saying even if someone did, it's wrong to call them a 'fraud', you are not a criminal until it is proven in a court of law.

[LonelyHearts]

Are you certain about that Vinyl? Personally I think you are wrong here. I may be wrong as well but if Bryan were not making any money off of his affiliate banners he has listed here then he would also need no affiliate tags attached to them as well, don't you think. I do agree with you though that the site takes paid advertising from accredited casinos in order to be listed there in the "Accredited Casino List Section".

It would be nice for Bryan to clear this controversial issue up once and for all as there has been way too much speculation on it over the years that continues to pop up several times each year but we are all still left without the true answer. Personally I see no reason at all for any secrecy regarding this.

I have stated in many posts that I too would charge the accredited casinos a listing fee for the exclusive exposure they are guaranteed by being listed on the "Accredited List" but for you to imply that Bryan makes no money as an affiliate is absurd IMO.
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[vegetagirl2008]

True. But people open up multiple accounts for a number of reasons. The main reason is to get signup bonus. The OP stated he busted out of the bonus and deposit with his own funds. If the casino accepts a bet. Then the casino should pay the winnings. Let's say the OP has 10 multiple accounts. The casino should refund every one of those accounts. But they arent because they accepted the bet and the OP lost. As long as the OP was opening accounts and losing. The casino was accepting the bets and could care less about the number of accounts. If they did, they would have put a detection ahead of him opening an account. But when it was the casino time to pay the piper. They wanted to check their records. If though they may or may not caught the OP doing his cashout. I am willing to bet if the OP would turn around and open another account at the same casino. They would accept the bet and if lost. Nothing would be said!

If the OP had read the T & C and that goes with any casino. Having multiple accounts will result in your account closing and deposits being returned.