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    Buzzluck , Max withdrawal term.

    Just a headsup, i noticed that buzzluck have added a max withdrawal of 20x the deposit amount to their terms, i believe this has not been there before. It says its not valid on coupons that mention that there is no max withdrawal, but i believe there havent been many coupons like that, and many customers don't read their terms and conditions page everyday, as these terms are not included in the bonus mailers they send out.
    Other then this, i enjoy plaing there very much, and will continue to support them, however i believe the max withdrawal is a quite low, as most of their bonuses are slots ony.

    Forgot to say, this is for deposit bonuses.
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    How many times do you have to wager the deposit and bonus?

    I can understand having a limit on a no deposit bonus, but making you work hard completing wager requirements then restricting you to 20x is not great.

    20x is prohibitive, if you win a progressive or some other jackpot its capped at 20x?


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    This is what i could find.

    This is the only thing i could find that mentions the 20x max cashout.

    i have not played at this casino yet. been tempted many times but gave my reason's as to why i have not in another thread.



    iv.Unless otherwise stated by the Terms and Conditions of the specific promotion, all free chips at Buzzluck have no cash value and have a default rollover of 25x. For players that have deposited prior to redeeming the free chip, the maximum withdrawal limit is 20x times the value of the chip. For players that have not deposited prior to redeeming the chip, the maximum amount that can be withdrawn is equal to the size of the chip.
    (so this one is for free chips)


    v.Default bonus wagering requirement is 60 times the amount of the bonus. Each bonus offer has promotion-specific wagering requirements. Should these not be specified on the promotion-specific Terms and Conditions, default wagering requirements of 60x (bonus only) apply.


    vi.The maximum withdrawal when claiming a bonus at Buzzluck is 20 times the amount of the deposit unless otherwise indicated by the particular promotion.(This Im Asuming Means All Deposits With a Bonus. unless The Bonus You Have Taken Mention No Max Cashout Or i Higher X Cashout ? )

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    Yes i believe random jackpots would be capped at 20x deposit, however progressive jackpots are network wide , and they can't be capped.
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    I'm surprised there hasn't been any comments on this, it's a very bad rule, and they seem to be trying to hide it too.

    I got an email from them today offering a 113% bonus.

    "Terms and Conditions:

    By using a bonus code you agree to abide by all relevant terms and conditions.
    The bonus awarded will be 113% of the amount deposited
    This bonus cannot be combined with any other deposit bonus offers.
    The maximum bonus that can be awarded with this code is €250 per deposit.
    This bonus may be claimed a maximum of thirteen (13) times
    This bonus expires on Sunday 15th November at 12:00 midnight CET
    Before you can claim your second or any subsequent bonus your balance must reach €0 and you must not have requested a withdrawal. Violating this rule could result in the bonus funds plus any winnings generated subsequently being removed.
    Bonus funds awarded as part of this promotion carry a rollover requirement of 25 X the deposit + bonus amount.
    Wagers placed on all Blackjack games, Roulette, Craps, all Video Poker games, Sic Bo, Baccarat, 7 Stud Poker, Perfect Pairs, Caribbean Draw, Caribbean Hold’Em, Caribbean Stud, Let Em Ride, Pai Gow Poker, Red Dog, Tri Card Poker and War do not count toward the fulfilment of the playthrough/rollover requirement. Playing these games could result in the removal of the bonus funds and any subsequent winnings.
    The games that qualify towards meeting the rollover requirement are: All Slots games, Keno, Scratchcards, Bonus Bingo and European slots poker.
    Any winnings generated from games that do not count toward rollover and were earned before the rollover was met will be removed from any withdrawal requests. If you are playing with winnings generated from ineligible games before the rollover is met and your account balance minus said winnings falls below zero, ALL subsequent play will be voided.
    Buzzluck retains the ability to alter and amend the terms and conditions of this promotion at any time
    Buzzluck Trivia – Game restrictions apply. Winners will be notified of full terms by e-mail when winnings are credited. It is the responsibility of players to read and abide by these terms.
    General Terms and Conditions apply - See site for details."

    They list all the usual terms you would expect to see for a bonus offer but they don't bother listing the very important part that your max withdrawal is 20x deposit and nowhere does it say the rule doesn't apply so we have to assume it does?

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    No comments from Buzzluck either..
    I agree with zap987, this rule is stupid.
    I always make small deposits when playing with a bonus, I'd rather do 3x $20 than 1x $60, and I know I'm not the only one.
    That would mean if I finally hit that RJ for 3K, I can only cashout $400?

    The games are already capped at 2000x bet, 1000x bet for the new Triple Twister, now the withdrawls are also capped, whats next?

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    Hi all,

    To clarify the rule for anyone who may be unclear, it applies to any deposit made with a bonus, but deposits made without a bonus of course remain unaffected by the 20X limit.

    Kavaman is right and this does not apply to the large progressive jackpots which are paid in full whether you used a bonus code with your deposit or not. As Mattsgame pointed out any free chips awarded by Buzzluck also carry a standard max cash out of the 20X free chip amount unless otherwise stated.

    These are just the standard T’s and C’s and apply only if the specific promotion does not state otherwise. As for this weeks newsletter bonus code Zap987 mentions above the 20X rule would apply so if you were to deposit €100 you would have a max cashout of €2,000 (excluding progressive jackpots) if you used the code. If you have any questions about a specific Buzzluck promo feel free to PM me here or speak with your casino host.

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    Thanks for clearing it up, but as De Beuker said, it makes it pointless for a lot of people to play at your casino with a bonus as you won't be allowed to withdraw a random jackpot if you hit it unless you deposit €100+ at a time.

    Would it really be so hard to add this term to the rest of the terms listed in each promotion, I'm pretty sure most people expect important stuff like max cashouts to be very noticeable in promotions? After claiming the 113% coupon, there isn't even anything in the coupon details about a max cashout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De Beuker View Post

    The games are already capped at 2000x bet, 1000x bet for the new Triple Twister, now the withdrawls are also capped, whats next?
    This have nothing to do with the bet size, it's only 50.000x line bet, so if you play with only 5 lines you can win the same money with the max cashout, because if you get (as an example) 5 expanding wilds on Realms of Riches, then you can win as much, as when you play with 20 lines, btw. on 20 line slots the max win is 2500x bet size if you play with all 20 lines

    Btw. This 20x max cashout rule should not be on any accredited casino!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eu_lowroller View Post
    This have nothing to do with the bet size, it's only 50.000x line bet, so if you play with only 5 lines you can win the same money with the max cashout, because if you get (as an example) 5 expanding wilds on Realms of Riches, then you can win as much, as when you play with 20 lines, btw. on 20 line slots the max win is 2500x bet size if you play with all 20 lines

    Btw. This 20x max cashout rule should not be on any accredited casino!
    True, but the newest games like Triple Twister, Year of Fortune and that Feature Guaranteed slot are fixed at max. lines.
    I always play max. lines, I think most people do.

    And the 20x deposit max. cashout rule should be stated in the bonus T&C's,
    thats what I expect from a casino, I try to read the general T&C's also, but they usually give me a headache before I get halfway through.

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