3Dice

[Mavin1]

Low variance means you get to spin again 15 minutes after you deposit.

Do you mean the reels are constipated?

[skiny]

Do you mean the reels are constipated?

No, the low variance games are the opposite of constipated.

It's the high variance that keep eating the coins but never let anything back out.

[trade]

As much as I enjoy the support at 3Dice, I often wonder about this "high variance" theory. If you look at the winner screen shots, there are many "high variance" slot wins with MG and others. They seem to happen at least as often for me as they do at 3D, without the more frequent low to nil wins inbetween. I am not sure how 3D really differs from what's out there with the exception of longer dry spells and poor paybacks most of the time (unless you are a newer player- wins are most definitely cyclical from my experience!)

Certainly when I have on occasion hit free spins at 3D I have had my share of poor pay backs such as 10X bets, even after very long dry spells.

I hit this last week at MG- 833+ X win. I hit the same thing at another MG with a $1.80 bet. Should MG slots be called HV as well?? I would like to understand how you differentiate yourself from what's out there already, aside from your great and responsive support staff. I think others could post screenshots that suck upon finally hitting bonus rounds at 3D. Just trying to keep you honest Enzo!

[LaHutti]

As much as I enjoy the support at 3Dice, I often wonder about this "high variance" theory. If you look at the winner screen shots, there are many "high variance" slot wins with MG and others. They seem to happen at least as often for me as they do at 3D, without the more frequent low to nil wins inbetween. I am not sure how 3D really differs from what's out there with the exception of longer dry spells and poor paybacks most of the time (unless you are a newer player- wins are most definitely cyclical from my experience!)

Certainly when I have on occasion hit free spins at 3D I have had my share of poor pay backs such as 10X bets, even after very long dry spells.

I hit this last week at MG- 833+ X win. I hit the same thing at another MG with a $1.80 bet. Should MG slots be called HV as well?? I would like to understand how you differentiate yourself from what's out there already, aside from your great and responsive support staff. I think others could post screenshots that suck upon finally hitting bonus rounds at 3D. Just trying to keep you honest Enzo!

Yes, that specific slot at MG is high variance, where other MG slots are low variance.....that's the ones you probably only wanna play for 10 minutes
High variance is not "theory" btw ...it's math.

[silcnlayc]

High variance is not "theory" btw ...it's math.

But it is a math on ASSUMPTIONS, not fact. If it was true math, then we would all have the same results at some given time and we do not.

So, to me high variance means nothing...it is just another word being used instead of the lame excuse of "you are having a bad run" thing that we used to hear and was used and you no longer see much anymore , now isn't that odd?? The word play casinos and others us to suit their purpose and when one saying goes out another pops in and others pick up on??

Variance and standard deviation are just different ways of expressing the same thing - variance is more likely to be used in more advanced applications of statistics, but standard deviation is the more "natural" (certainly the most common in practical use) parameter because The mean is just the "average" of a lot of data,

NOT FACTS.......just another word for, yea, so sorry, you will lose but you MIGHT hit something in the next millenium...We can't prove that you will win but you just might!!

I said it before and I will say it again..it is all hogwash to try and prove something that is NOT there..and a means to make more money by stroking those that believe in this....until they go broke..

Sorry to be so butt headed on this word, but I actually HATE that term when used by so many that have no idea that it is just another come on as I said before...

I will stick with the casinos that give back a little and allow me to play a lot and withdraw a little ...that is what a real casino is about, not sucking you dry and saying "oops" didn't you know we are "high variance" Geeze....

DISCLAIMER: No offense is meant to anyone! This is just my opinion and I do not want it regarded as a slam on anyone..whatever one wants to believe, I am all for that..all is good here..

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[De Beuker]

I like high variance slots to be honest.
If you play them, try playing them at low stakes.
I see so many people playing Scary Rich at $2 per spin with a $100 bankroll and then complaining they never win..no wonder.
The higher your bets, the higher the variance.
These slots can still payout huge, even on low stakes.
I once won €1150 on Break da Bank Again from a 0.27 spin, thats the upside of high variance
I admit I get sick and tired sometimes from losing deposit after deposit at Rival or RTG, but if I can cashout its usually a very nice sum.

[zap987]

I can't wait for Enzo to make the slot that always pays back 95c on a $1 spin every time, there seems to be plenty of mathematically challenged people that would prefer that to a real chance of winning.

Math is math, no amount of word spewing is going to change what is true.

[silcnlayc]

Math is math, no amount of word spewing is going to change what is true.

You are right, EXACT math is math, not generalities or assumptive math as VARIANCE means....it means just that (maybe's)..you might get it, you might not..it comes from vary...yes???

I would take 95 cents on a dollar any day....lately it has been 24 cents on dollar...it is called variance ? Yes? How long can one be happy with 24 cents on the dollar??? I would love to "catch" one of those big ones...don't get me wrong...but I don't want to spend $50,000 to catch that $20,000 HIGH variance slot and say whoopee....I won???? Um, no...Give me a nice decent hit...once in a while and I will be more than happy..

I can't wait for Enzo to make the slot that always pays back 95c on a $1 spin every time, there seems to be plenty of mathematically challenged people that would prefer that to a real chance of winning.

Well, I guess am one of those mathmatically challenged kind of people I guess , cause I would rather have this than a hope and a prayer anyday:


...if I blew $1000 a week...and was almost guaranteed $950 back...that would be GREAT! Whereas if I blew $1000 a week and finally catch a good one like that $20,000 on week 63.....I would have invested...um....you can do the REAL math here... To each their own...I prefer smaller wins and longer play with a nice doozy of a win once in a while (which actually happens on regular slots (without the high in it) mind you, and those are gifts!). But touting high variance is GOOD for a player is a little much I think...again, no offense , just opinion..
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[skiny]

I can't wait for Enzo to make the slot that always pays back 95c on a $1 spin every time, there seems to be plenty of mathematically challenged people that would prefer that to a real chance of winning.

Math is math, no amount of word spewing is going to change what is true.

Math is math but we're not dealing with absolutes. We're dealing with random occurrences and odds. High variance basically means the possibility of good wins but the certainty of bad odds. Gambling is gambling and no matter what the "variance" there is no certainty of a win. But all slot games have decent payouts in the upper half of the pay table and the odds of me hitting one are a lot better if I'm spinning my deposit for 3 hours than they are if I'm spinning for 3 minutes. Like I said before if you want to play the so called high variance games you need a big bank roll and a lot of patience. I don't really have much of either.

[skiny]

55 two coin spins in Happy Valley and Payola. 4 won slightly more than my wager. I think the highest win was a buck. That's high variance.