Which RTG casinos SUCK? Which RULE? Shout it out HERE!

[silcnlayc]

Someone mentioned having 62 spins @$2 on a slot for a $24 return - this is not unusual and its quite likely that you will bust out quickly betting $2 from a $100 bankroll

I was the one who said this...and I say bologne...on this...

this is not unusual

I cannot believe you can sit there and say how good these casinos are (RTG"s) when anyone who isn't blind can see something is different about them...

There was a time a $100 lasted for quite a long time even at $2 a spin...and for you to sit there and keep saying all is good...and keep having players think they can still have a decent time at any RTG...I say shame on you for giving that impression when almost everyone here KNOWS something is off with them...

Are you by any chance promoting them in any way? Just curious..

it depends on the variance of the slot

Another BS line.....geez...

I mean no offense...but it seems you are very alone in these thoughts about how all is the same with these casinos...

I still pop into an RTG every once in a while and play a few spins....but these visits have gotten to be shorter and shorter and are going to be nil soon...because RTG casinos really have gotten so tight that it is absolutely ridiculous to even consider playing them anymore...until something changes or until they go broke...and my money is they are going to go broke if they continue down this path they have chosen these last 2 years..by literally stealing players money...and that has gotten old to many savvy players..who have moved on and beyond RTG's...

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[De Beuker]

Insofar as on RTG paying our better than another, it is well known that operators can alter the payouts to 3 different setting within the 90% range. However, it is impossible to decipher which casino is set to which % based on one of even a few sessions - losing sessions can happen even at high % RTP casinos and the few % difference between settings will only be seen over a large amount of spins.

Remember, although you may have a 25% return session, someone else may have just had a 170% session on another game, so IMO it isnt reasonable to diss a casino based on one or two losing sessions. Ive had some nice wins lately at RTG, and also some nasty sessions. As far as I can tell, it depends on the variance of the slot as to whether you are likely to have a really low % session. Someone mentioned having 62 spins @$2 on a slot for a $24 return - this is not unusual and its quite likely that you will bust out quickly betting $2 from a $100 bankroll. My advice is always have a minimum of 100 bets to start with, but again its a personal thing....however 62 bad spins is very much within the norm and can (and does) happen at any other casino.

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I think the difference between 96% RTP and 92% RTP is definately noticable, as the house-edge increases with 100%.
That would mean that on avarage, you will get only half of the playtime you got before.
And thats what many people experience these days.
And I thought I read somewhere that the highest setting is 97% and the lowest 91%, but I'm not sure.
Would mean 150% more house edge..

But I agree with you that you cannot tell anything from just a few hundred spins.

[TOC]

"He who chase progressive will get exhausted."

[Nifty29]

Geez give an opinion based on personal experience and someone has to get personal.

'Shame on me' for sharing my own thoughts? Please.

Now, on a point-by-point basis:

I cannot believe you can sit there and say how good these casinos are (RTG"s)

I didnt say anything about 'how good these casinos are'. All I said was they I have both LOST and WON at RTG casinos, and that my CHOICE of casino is based on customer service and payout times - NOT my perception of their payout % (there is no way I can personally work out what it is as I cant afford millions of spins), so I think you need to calm down a little there.

There was a time a $100 lasted for quite a long time even at $2 a spin...and for you to sit there and keep saying all is good...and keep having players think they can still have a decent time at any RTG...I say shame on you for giving that impression when almost everyone here KNOWS something is off with them...

Again, Im not saying RTG are better or worse than any other software. Im saying that IN MY EXPERIENCE Ive had some nice wins AND some losses.

The point Im making is that you can have horrible losing sessions at MG and Rival etc just as easily, and it DOES depend on which slot you play. I know you dont think it matters, but in regards to play time the variance of the slot is extremely important. I mean, you are far more likely to lose your $100 quickly on Rain Dance than you are on Diamond Dozen for instance.... but when you hit a big one on Rain Dance its HUGE.

Have a look through some of Enzo's posts about variance and you will see it is directly related to how long your bankroll might last.

Are you by any chance promoting them in any way? Just curious..Another BS line.....geez...

I mean no offense...but it seems you are very alone in these thoughts about how all is the same with these casinos...

What you are saying here is 'No offense, but you're talking bullsh*t'...how could anyone be offended by someone telling them that?? Next time you want to say that to someone, dont waste your time putting the 'no offense' part in as you obviously dont mean it.

I dont promote any casino FWIW, so my opinions are personal opinions. Sorry.

I still pop into an RTG every once in a while and play a few spins....but these visits have gotten to be shorter and shorter and are going to be nil soon...because RTG casinos really have gotten so tight that it is absolutely ridiculous to even consider playing them anymore...until something changes or until they go broke...and my money is they are going to go broke if they continue down this path they have chosen these last 2 years..by literally stealing players money...and that has gotten old to many savvy players..who have moved on and beyond RTG's...

You obviously feel strongly about how bad RTG is, so why do you even bother to 'pop in' or whatever?? Just avoid them if you think they are ripping you off. Why would anyone who 'knew' (and you said that you 'know') they are being fleeced keep going back for more???? I just dont get that part.

If I felt I 'couldnt' win or that it 'seemed' impossible for me to win at RTG casinos, I would stop playing them - simple. However, that isnt my experience so Ill keep playing until that time arrives.

Everyone here knows I respect contrary opinions, but I dont appreciate your attempts to portray me as 'stupid' or 'full of BS' - its childish.

As for the Colosseum slot.....we just have to agree to disagree. If you want to provide the proof, you should detail every spin you have for the next 100,000 spins and see what happens - unfortunately its the only way you can do it. Again, if you think that slot has been changed and is ripping off, why are you still playing it????

[TOC]

It's ok Nifty, RTG is probably the top U.S. player software, as history shows when you're on top people complain.. Gotta love the RTG threads.

[bernynhel]

I'd kinna have to agree with Nifty about $2 spins and $100 bankrolls. I wouldn't think it'd be that easy to make 400 wagers with that combination let alone cash out any winnings anywhere. When I deposit $100 most of my slot wagers are in the $0.25-0.50 range. If I'm lucky enough to grow my roll to $400-500 then some wagers would drift up into the $2 range. To extend my playtime I try to keep wagers under 1/2% of my roll. I know sometimes it's like tryin to get to the center of a tootsie pop in more than 1 lick but that's the strategy I at least go in with.

[Nifty29]

Just FYI for everybody reading this thread:

TOC OPERATES AN RTG CASINO

Im not saying anything else, just making sure everyone is aware.


@bern - yep bankroll management is what turned things around for me many years ago.

[edspeere]

All RTG's SUCK!

[TOC]

Just FYI for everybody reading this thread:

TOC OPERATES AN RTG CASINO

Im not saying anything else, just making sure everyone is aware.


@bern - yep bankroll management is what turned things around for me many years ago.

Oh please I was supporting your actions but you want to slander my name here at CM. Isn't that wrong around here. Bla Bla TOC is an RTC Casino, guess what I'm not a casino operator but merely an affiliate just like several posters on this site and BTW I don't advertise my URL like many do! Don't try and stir up crap with me and if you'd do your homework you'd see my affiliate site is highly respected here at CM. Max - warning this poster is out of line, I will behave around here but won't accept insults about my website just as CM and yourself! Chill out people...

[Nifty29]

Oh please I was supporting your actions but you want to slander my name here at CM. Isn't that wrong around here. Bla Bla TOC is an RTC Casino, guess what I'm not a casino operator but merely an affiliate just like several posters on this site and BTW I don't advertise my URL like many do! Don't try and stir up crap with me and if you'd do your homework you'd see my affiliate site is highly respected here at CM. Max - warning this poster is out of line, I will behave around here but won't accept insults about my website just as CM and yourself! Chill out people...

OK well you were the one who listed a particular RTG casino in your profile for which you were the webmaster....and this is the first time you have disputed being an RTG operator...you may technically be an affiliate but, from what you have said, you run a 'white label' operation which is a little different.

As for the slander.....where do you get that from?? What did I say that was slanderous?? All I did was state a well-known fact. I didnt insult you or degrade you in any way, and how can I slander or insult your website when I didnt even name it???

The point I was trying to make to other readers is that when you post:

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RTG is probably the top U.S. player software, as history shows when you're on top people complain..

..it is with bias. You have many times before taken the opportunity to spruik how wonderful RTG is, which just happens to be the software that 'your' casino operates on.

You have stated here at CM before that you have your 'own' casino which runs on RTG, so you are hardly going to come out and say anything negative about RTG are you?

I think the reason you have gone off the deep end here is that you dont like people drawing attention to your close relationship with RTG, and, as a result, taking your 'RTG is da bomb' statements with a grain of salt.