Rate your best/worst RTG casino!!!

[silkprint]

I hope you mean just leaving this thread and not the site Rob .
Everyones different opinion is what makes a forum great .

[JHV]

On topic, I think Buzzluck are probably the safest and most ethical online casino using RTG that I've tried. I did not win there, actually I was in the process of losing...when they contacted me about an accidental breach of their T&C which was entirely my fault and which involved using a VPN to play as my ISP blocks half the gambling sites in the world.

Everything they did from that point was perfect ethical behaviour and brilliant CS. They had every right to simply lock my account, take my money (at least the money I'd lost), and inform me of the failure to comply with their T&C.

Instead, they were polite to a fault, refunded my full deposit, apologised for locking my account saying they understood the position I'm in and they also provided me with game history for transparency and peace of mind as I couldn't access my account.

I would recommend Buzzluck myself based on this experience.

[JHV]

Originally Posted by silkprint

I hope you mean just leaving this thread and not the site Rob .
Everyones different opinion is what makes a forum great .

silkprint, different opinions make a great forum. We are completely in agreeance. But some things like mathematics and logic are not open to opinion. They can be proved by experts.

People who are not experts and who are spreading disinformation whilst calling themselves experts - and doing so for monetary gain - provide no value. If Rob felt my arguments were unsound or lacking in logic or mathematically flawed, he would happily agree to my calm and fair proposal to bring in an independent auditor who would audit the both of us.

Instead....well you can see for yourself.

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This quote below is in RobWin's signature:

"Question with boldness, speak without fear, and hold to the truth, no matter what answer you might find!"

Let us indeed question with boldness. Speak without fear. And hold to the truth. No matter what answer we might find.

I am willing to do exactly that with my calm proposal.

You can decide for yourself if Rob believes in his own signature or not when you look at his response to my fair proposal. Indeed, it is far more 'fair' to him than I. He is claiming to be an expert. Yet unwilling and furious at the thought of independent experts assessing the truth of his claim to that title.

[skiny]

Ok, I just read through the entire thread. Where do I start?

A: JVH, if you're not on some kind of medication you should probably consider having some prescribed.

B: Rob, stop answering JVH. I think you're making him horny.

C: Berny, the problem with your meter is that RTG casinos have over a hundred games and not all are paying the same. I could be having a great night playing Big Shot, T-Rex and Sunken Treasure while you're losing your shirt in Mystic Dragon and Loose Caboose at the very same casino. So unless you're going to list every single game and let people check off which ones are paying and which ones are not (about once an hour) the meter isn't really going to give a true impression of how the casino is paying out. Besides, we've both been in enough 3Dice tourneys to know that you can be winning tons and I can be going broke in the same game at the same casino at the same time.

Sorry.

Trust me. I'm tired of losing every deposit too. I'm a low roller and most of my deposits are gone before I finish drinking my coffee. RTG and MG. I think the only real solution is - if you can't win, don't play. I've quit playing at a few casinos and closed my accounts after months of loses with the explanation to the casino that I'm not going to play where I can't win. It's that simple.

I'm not trying to get rich but it would be nice to play on their dime for a change. If that's never going to happen I'll just keep my dimes in my pocket.

[silkprint]

I "get it"
This forum is open though to everyone as long as they respect the rules . Every thread doesn't have to be a battle . Every member doesn't have to like each other . That's life .
We should however , respect the mods , Meister and the other forum members reading these threads and not turn every thread into the same thing over and over . It gets old fast to anyone over the age of 10 .
Everything doesn't have to be a challenge . Just enjoy yourself
TGIF

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by silkprint

I "get it"
This forum is open though to everyone as long as they respect the rules . Every thread doesn't have to be a battle . Every member doesn't have to like each other . That's life .
We should however , respect the mods , Meister and the other forum members reading these threads and not turn every thread into the same thing over and over . It gets old fast to anyone over the age of 10 .
Everything doesn't have to be a challenge . Just enjoy yourself
TGIF

Thanks. One more post from Robwin or JHV on anything even slightly offtopic in this thread and I'm going to close it. Have things I'd rather be doing than moderating fights.

[JHV]

skiny:

What exactly would I be taking medication for? Can you tell me, please? I am calm, logical and arguing valid points. In response, the person trolling me refuses to respond to my calm PM's (which I sent in the interests of handling it privately), choosing instead to flame and troll. When I calmly propose a fair, independent audit - he throws a temper tantrum and swears.

Are you sure you're not getting the two of us mixed up somehow?

In regards to the topic, you're 100% correct and you've effectively argued the point I made on Page 1 or 2 in my first post. OP may have the right intentions, but his methodology will only harm his claimed interests.

What you, the OP, myself can all do is lobby casinos to be accountable and transparent. And I've outlined how the transparency can be achieved.

[Just a note: You may not be aware that your comment regarding medication can be viewed as being very offensive. I am not offended and I rarely get offended. Just pointing out that most people would find it very offensive, is all.]

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silkprint:

An ongoing issue of mine here is that I do respect the rules. Yet others attack and flame. I have saved a copy of this thread for you to peruse objectively if you wish should it be moved to The Attic again.

However, RobWin was not respecting the rules. He was flaming me, trolling, and in breach of the banner plastered above this thread.

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When I react with calm logic and a fair proposal, he uses foul language and spits the dummy. I have been temp banned for *far* less than his little outburst here. And for *far* less than skiny's unprovoked insult above (not saying skiny should be admonished - I'm a big boy - just making a point).

(quick edit: sorry simmo, post made whilst you were posting, just responding to other posters. I'll bring it back on topic.)

[JHV]

What has been the experience of those of you who've played at the ClubWorld Group? This is ClubWorld, Lucky Red, Aladdins Gold.

I've played at 2 of the 3 and been fairly impressed, although I've lost every time and never withdrawn.

Just today though, I had an unsavoury CS experience - but that might be an aberration rather than the norm. Prior to that, I would have had only the nicest things to say about their CS and procedures (which give me the impression they're extremely legitimate).

[silkprint]

I have had a very good experience at Clubworld as I won my first random there on New Years 2007

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by JHV

...I realise RobWin is a shill that calls himself a "Gambling Guru" but is nothing like a Guru at all. Well, no, he is. He's a "Marketing Guru" that knows nothing about Gambling at all...so he's misrepresenting himself - and he's lying to you all about his Gambling Ability. He doesn't have any. I've proven this over and over and if he wishes to dispute my claim, we can have independent auditors come in (loser pays for the auditor) and assess his claim...

That's enough. Stupid me for giving you another chance. Bye.

Edited to add: There are plenty of ways to discuss any topic under the sun without attacking or belittling your opponent. I gave this guy enough chances to maintain his membership, but enough is enough. I should not have to babysit these threads.

Edited to add further: Robwin's account is suspended for 72 hours - flaming.

What the hell people? Is it so hard to not be so damn confrontational?