"live dealer" online casinos

**dealer wins** · 1st November 2009, 05:24 PM

Been playing BJ on a couple of these and I accept it may be a coincidence but it just seems fairer. The dealer sometimes does this amazing thing known as BUSTING every now and then when you have a big double down out there, rather than showing 6 and getting a 10 then a 5. I am converted and dont think I will play "normal" casino card games again.

I think this is the way forward as it puts my mind at rest, compared to me always thinking its rigged on normal online BJ.

**RandomEvent** · 1st November 2009, 07:58 PM

Yeah I totally agree to this thought now. The live game is slower, but I have more trust it them than the software games.

**Bencuri** · 1st November 2009, 09:26 PM

I am mostly a roulette player and play for a long time. Interestingly I always loose my money in live casinos, and I always win many times in software based games. I also loose there sometimes, but on software games I could make a nice profit recently. There were many cases when all my money was on the table in a software game, and one of my numbers hit. In opposition, in live games such thing rarely happened, but mostly my numbers didn't hit. So I have the opinion about live games like yours about software based ones.

**pokeraddict** · 1st November 2009, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bencuri

I am mostly a roulette player and play for a long time. Interestingly I always loose my money in live casinos, and I always win many times in software based games. I also loose there sometimes, but on software games I could make a nice profit recently. There were many cases when all my money was on the table in a software game, and one of my numbers hit. In opposition, in live games such thing rarely happened, but mostly my numbers didn't hit. So I have the opinion about live games like yours about software based ones.

So the live roulette game is rigged?

**Bencuri** · 2nd November 2009, 01:48 AM

Who knows. Maybe it is just a matter of good video editing and they can imitate any result they wish

Anyway with my comment I just wanted to say that so far for me the software haven't turned out to be less honest then the live version. I like the software more than the live one. Maybe it is also because of that I don't like to wait too much. However in case I could play with high stakes, it would be worth waiting as well...

**free bet** · 2nd November 2009, 10:16 AM

I think that many bets will not be placed and frustration will rise in players if the casinos dont deal with this option in an appropriate manner...

**florin** · 2nd November 2009, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Bencuri

Maybe it is just a matter of good video editing and they can imitate any result they wish

Hey, it's interesting to talk again about it. I wasn't going to post about my loss, but it happens to be this precise issue.
I only play roulette and a few weeks ago decided to play d'Alembert on a live online wheel. Seemed to me I could make a small profit.
I deposited 20Eur in a Playtech casino and won 3 Eur in 1 hour, with a 0.10 bet. I left and the next day I logged in again. I made 4Eur in almost 2 hours, winning was a little harder. So I had a +7Eur.
Afterwards, the outputs started to group against me: I was on red, there were very few red outputs. I changed on black, the outputs changed too! (Immediately!). Then I switched color right in the middle of an opposite color streak. This was the only moment when I won 2 spins in a row. Then immediately the wheel switched the outputted color.
And I said to myself: probably there are several players staking on color and all of them switch almost synchronously. I shall stick with one color no matter what. Before this decision I had lost about 10Eur and after deciding this I lost 10Eur more.
So I quit quite dazzled.
Didn't want to put it on the forum cause many readers will say: "he's nuts, how can't you trust a live wheel?" Well, I don't know how it happened but I won't play online again. Ever.
As a matter of fact, I have read once someone having written about EVERY online game being rigged, but... I didn't think the live wheel could be rigged.

Has anybody had similar experiences?

**Westland Bowl** · 2nd November 2009, 01:25 PM

Maybe "Live" dealer does not mean "Real Time" dealer? Does a live dealer react to your questions or comments? Do you see the dealer typing in his/her comments? I never played online "live" dealer blackjack.

**bakonlin** · 2nd November 2009, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bencuri

I am mostly a roulette player and play for a long time. Interestingly I always loose my money in live casinos, and I always win many times in software based games. I also loose there sometimes, but on software games I could make a nice profit recently. There were many cases when all my money was on the table in a software game, and one of my numbers hit. In opposition, in live games such thing rarely happened, but mostly my numbers didn't hit. So I have the opinion about live games like yours about software based ones.

I have the same opinion,I skipped BJ ,play only roulette and bacarat the software one,still able to hit big stake sometime,whilst the live one, more failed than hit.

**Bencuri** · 2nd November 2009, 04:45 PM

I think the live wheel cannot be rigged every place, because I know about people who prefer live wheel, and earn good monies with it. But maybe a few tips can help to avoid being cheated:

1. don't play at places where only a few players can sit down to a table, play at tables where many players can play at the same time

2. it is better to see not only the wheel but other things, like a television screen or a dealer, when the ball lands, to make sure everything is in realtime, however so far I haven't met such place

Anyway somebody suggested me to sit down to tables where more people play, and bet the sections they don't bet. That friend has the opinion that casinos cheat, if he is right, this method should work. However only in a few casinos you are allowed to see what other players bet. I don't know the software name, but the old Redkings casino and Casinoroom had that kind of tables, however they changed software now. If you can find the software type of their old casinos, you can find such rooms.

So far I think the best live wheels that I found are at SmartLive, because there many players play at the same time, and you can see what other players bet. However that system can be cheated as well. Who guarantees that those other bets are true and not fake?

Originally Posted by florin

Hey, it's interesting to talk again about it. I wasn't going to post about my loss, but it happens to be this precise issue.
I only play roulette and a few weeks ago decided to play d'Alembert on a live online wheel. Seemed to me I could make a small profit.
I deposited 20Eur in a Playtech casino and won 3 Eur in 1 hour, with a 0.10 bet. I left and the next day I logged in again. I made 4Eur in almost 2 hours, winning was a little harder. So I had a +7Eur.
Afterwards, the outputs started to group against me: I was on red, there were very few red outputs. I changed on black, the outputs changed too! (Immediately!). Then I switched color right in the middle of an opposite color streak. This was the only moment when I won 2 spins in a row. Then immediately the wheel switched the outputted color.
And I said to myself: probably there are several players staking on color and all of them switch almost synchronously. I shall stick with one color no matter what. Before this decision I had lost about 10Eur and after deciding this I lost 10Eur more.
So I quit quite dazzled.
Didn't want to put it on the forum cause many readers will say: "he's nuts, how can't you trust a live wheel?" Well, I don't know how it happened but I won't play online again. Ever.
As a matter of fact, I have read once someone having written about EVERY online game being rigged, but... I didn't think the live wheel could be rigged.

Has anybody had similar experiences?