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    You are not talking about a system to beat the casino, but a program, or a bot. Most casinos ban bot play.

    If you are a truly unscrupulous person, develop your bot, don't even bother playing it but sell it to the unsuspecting. Then not your problem when they are denied winnings and banned.

    You would not be the the first.

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    Systems work. Just look at Las Vegas, it's been run into the ground by smart gamblers with a sure-fire betting strategy.

    Bottom line:

    Bet red, bet black, double down on 16 if you put your undies on left foot first this morning, bet player if the dealer has huge boobs, let it ride, don't let it ride, press your bet while wearing a manzier, fold a soft 20 if you're wearing a protective cup, lay a hundo after banker has won thrice in a row.

    None of it matters, not even one ounce. Sytems are for dullards & cretins.

    http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    Hang on. I was under the impression that Casinos play on their customers' greed and belief that there is a "system" out there that will net them cash? Flat betting. Doubling up on a loss. Doubling on a win. Progressive betting. The Martingale system. These systems are not classified as cheating.
    You are correct....They are actually classified as "How To Lose Your Shirt"

    http://www.smartgaming.com/Articles/..._a_casino.html

    Please accept my apologies for stopping after the first paragraph of your post as gambling fallacies

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    Hiya: I did not get the scan from you yet????

    OK, to be Fair, here is why people are bashing you. Look at what you posted as a Lower Win Goal per week. Then you added, "per casino". This can only mean you plan on playing at several Casino's at the same time, or have something set up, to reach the win goal at casino xxxx, log out of it, and log into casino zzzz, and so on. Is this correct?

    Otherwise, why make a BOT at all? The program will only do what you tell/code it to do. So, why not just play normally, with your system, with you at the PC, and eliminate the possibility of getting banned for using a BOT altogethter?

    The actual answer to your question of, "How much can i win before being banned"? is, "AS MUCH AS YOU WANT". Now, if this means using a BOT, or Taking every Bonus offer under the sun, meeting Play Thru Requirements, and cashing out 30 seconds later, never actually putting any of your money at risk, having multiple accounts, and so on............Then the answer becomes, "You get to Win Nothing".

    It even sounds like you have not played at all? Otherwise, your post should say, "Hi, I am up over $10,000 net profit at Casino xxxxx, how much more should i try to make before cashing out? "insert screen shot of $10,000 here".

    Do that, and everyone will be praising you, instead of bashing you, and you would get better answers to your question.

    PS: This was taken over 4 years ago. So, yes, even without cheating, it is possible to get banned. I was told i was playing, "in a professional manner", and not for entertainment. I was even an Affiliate for them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    I havent even started making the software, yet I'm being accused of single handedly bringing down every online casino on the planet.

    This is how casinos normally work:

    Yet, on this forum, my 1 and only post eminated such confidence in my ability to create a system that would be bring down every casino in the land, that I was advised not to unleash it against the poor casinos.
    I realize that I may have taken a long nap this evening but did I actually wake up in the "Twilight Zone" here..

    Newbie Poster here huh... I am actually surprised this thread has ran the length that it has..

    Keep it coming Swede, love it brother...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    Hang on. I was under the impression that Casinos play on their customers' greed and belief that there is a "system" out there that will net them cash? Flat betting. Doubling up on a loss. Doubling on a win. Progressive betting. The Martingale system. These systems are not classified as cheating.
    They do play on customers greed to a certain extent but that's business, for e.g if i owned a shoe shop and someone decided to be greedy and buy all the shoes in the shop do you seriously think i am going to complain??...of course not, like i said that's business and casinos ultimately are a business plain and simple.

    Your also right these systems are not classified as cheating because you can't win in the long run with these systems and these systems are usually being played by players not by computers, in other words not by bots.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    I'm pretty sure that none of you guys here play on casinos to lose money. Or perhaps I'm living in some form of twilight zone where people on this forum actually aim to lose and fill the pockets of casinos.
    No of course we don't all play at/on casinos to lose money but we realize that sometimes you will lose money and if that is the cost of entertainment and the chance to win some money then so be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    I havent even started making the software, yet I'm being accused of single handedly bringing down every online casino on the planet.
    Your not being accused of bringing down the casino as that's not going to happen as sooner or later your going to get caught out and your winnings confiscated. You might make a small little amount of money to begin with but the casinos will catch on and when they do you will know and soon you want be able to play at any online casino.

    Let me get one thing straight...You haven't even started making the software yet you are already trying to figure out how much you can make?Hmmm now who's the greedy one?

    I mean seriously all we are trying to do here is make you understand that this is a bad way to make money and isn't going to work in the long run (if at all) but if you are seriously considering on doing this then i suggest getting a program that actually works before thinking about how much profit your going to make (once again won't be very much when the casinos catch on which they will trust me as they have departments dedicated to this sort of stuff).

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    This is how casinos normally work: customer comes in, confident that his system will work where all others have failed. He starts placing bets and initially gets some wins. Then as he gets more confident, he places larger bets. His complacency becomes his undoing and over the long term, he usually loses. The customer keeps coming back for more though, as he chases his losses and believes he can win back those losses. This is why most casinos are able to stay in business.
    Yeah but this isn't what your are planning on doing. As in your first post your plan is to get a computer to do it for you which takes out the whole human element. It is cheating, plain and simple i mean seriously do you think you could get away with the same thing in Vegas?Just walk in to the MGM sit down a computer and tell them the bot you just created is going to play for you??? You want even get through the front door and if you do you will get at least 5 years in a federal penitentiary. Now that won't happen if you do it online but it's the same principle as it is still cheating plain and simple and instead you will get your accounts banned and funds not already withdrawn confiscated and you will soon won't be able to play at any reputable casino. As for the rogue casinos well even if you played fair you still probably wouldn't get paid so you got no chance if your using a bot.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    Yet, on this forum, my 1 and only post eminated such confidence in my ability to create a system that would be bring down every casino in the land, that I was advised not to unleash it against the poor casinos.
    No your first post didn't say you were creating a "system" but instead a "program". There is a distinct difference. Your first post basically said i want to create a computer to play for me and how much can i get before i get banned. You obviously therefore know you are not allowed to do such a thing yet you have come onto a forum full of Online Casino Representatives (some very high ranking ones) and told the world your intentions.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    Even I dont have that much faith in my own system, yet some of you do. It'll require serious mathematical analysis and only then will it become clear if it is possible to consistently beat a casino at a particular game.
    Serious mathematical analysis has already been done on all games (and you would know that if you had bothered to do some research) and there is currently only two games that you can beat in the long run using a strategy in the right playing conditions and that is Blackjack (i know but i will let you figure out how although my only tip is that it can only be done in live games in certain conditions, this shouldn't be too hard to work out then just do some research on it) and all forms of Poker like Texas Hold'em, Omaha, 7 Card Stud and so forth. I suggest you look at the Wizard of Odds website.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    And regards "cheating", what is playing for bonuses? Using bonuses to play blackjack (which also uses a system which minimises the house edge to about 3%) is exactly that. Or is bonus bagging banned on this forum (if it is, I apologise for mentioning it).
    Playing for bonuses isn't cheating, the casinos don't like it but it's not cheating. I think you need to brush up on your definition of cheating. I think you should also read the main Casinomeister website and educate yourself a little as i think you need a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    There is no such thing as a sure thing and even if you play a bonus, there is a chance that you could totally wipe out before you reach the wager requirement.
    DUH! Once again as i mentioned in a previous thread, it's called gambling!!! Anyways i don't know anyone who thinks if they get a bonus they are guaranteed to win. A bonus is basically the Online casinos giving you a reason to deposit and play at their casino and give them a try as they can't give you free food or free drinks they will give you free money (as in a "bonus") to make up for this. It is also used to entice players back to a casino they may have forgot, give them extra playing time or as a loyalty reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunama View Post
    Oh and for those who want to buy shares in my program, be patient, once it is ready, rather than use it to win £1000s/week myself, I shall be selling the program for £50 per pop.
    I am sure we will be waiting an awful long time and even if you do come up with something that works why sell it at 50 a pop, why not keep it secret anyways if you did sell it you would be just joining a long line of other people trying to sell programs claiming to make $1000s/week when in reality they don't work at all or end up getting all your accounts locked which like i said will happen and basically no there is no amount you can win using these programs that will avoid suspicion.

    Anyways good luck you will need it

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    Do threads like this one linger here just for the entertainment value??? The op kid with no job is obviously putting a fantasy on paper. The responses are even more funnier/pathetic.

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    actually the micro gaming platform offers this robotic play for free

    it's called expert play and they show you the stats , so got a deposite on and fly

    also other casino/s offer the same i just think M G 's is more sophisticated :noteworthy:noteworthy

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    Surely the OP is just teasing and sharing a joke. He/She knows that a rinky dink system would be spotted and analysised moments after a large withdraw.

    It must of occurred to the OP that if a system was possible it would of already been created and used, and that the questionable coding born from a coffee stained and muffin crumbed keyboard residing in a bedsit in Ipswich is not going to cause the massively funded security departments of online casinos too much bother.

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    If I ever start a casino, I'd have no problem to allow bots from the OP and other 'masters'.

    Seriously, you can't beat RNG games with a house advantage over the long term.

    Gamble for entertainment purposes only!

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