RTG still rocks!

[TOC]

Come on here's facts!


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The fact is deposited $182.00 and cashed out for $3.500.00, whats up with all the bad posts?

[chuchu59]

Congratulations on your wins and thank you for your facts. However, it is equally true that RTG is giving many players a horrid time on the slots. You seem to have a knack of winning big with your comps. How do you do it?

[slotheadlizard]

Congrats on your wins, and I wish you continued success, however you have to know that your experiences are the exception. Many, many other players are getting slaughtered by RTG, and that's their experience. We all know that people do win, no one is saying that they don't. Those of us who have been playing for years, and recognize the rapid steady downward trend as compared to when we started are not delusional.

If all of your history logs read like this for month in and month out then you have a valid argument. For now, though, asking people why they are complaining about RTG seems like a rhetorical question to me. This is the third thread I've seen you post those logs, and ask what's up with RTG complaints. If you are going to go around championing RTG in every complaint thread about them, you will be writing for a very long time, there are many.

Furthermore, its great that you want to give credit to a casino/brand when you are winning, however its not so great to start a thread about how great it is and refute opinions from another thread that state the opposite, IMO. Which Ironically is what I'm doing, and its bad etiquette.

[Rusty]

Amazing how many new members have these unlikely wins.
Yes I am very cynical.

[oldtrvlagt]

I think they have to wait until reality sinks in......IMHO

[GGW Laurie]

I also have had great wins at RTG casinos TOC but i have also fell off that high horse your riding on now, be prepared for that fall as it will come, saddle sores and all.

RTG is a fine software and im a loyal player to their casinos, so if i want to bitch or anyone else for that matter wants to bitch and moan......whats it to you?............You may find yourself in the same seat later on............laurie

[Rusty]

I agree RTG software is good entertainment and I honestly can not say their payouts are less than anywhere else, they all seem tight to me.
My RTG stats over Millions of spins would be about 85% (guesstimate) but that includes a RJ win.
My deposits dwarf my withdrawals by a considerable margin but admittedly I often carry on playing after a win.
My stats at MG would be quite similar but generally the software is, no was, less streaky IMO.
Rival has by far the lowest returns for me personally and is the most streaky software of the Three.

I wish all software made their slots about 97% without the controls or built in options to lower the returns but they don't so as I said in another post it is really down to where you consider you get most entertainment for your $

If all these new posters that post about their unlikely profits are genuine then I wish them all the best but who wins large amounts on slots on a regular basis on any software?

win or lose - Keep it real.

[silcnlayc]

Amazing how many new members have these unlikely wins.
Yes I am very cynical.
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OMG Rusty! I just posted this very same thing in the other thread....wow...now you are scaring me...quit reading my mind .

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[Pinababy69]

Congrats on your wins, and I wish you continued success, however you have to know that your experiences are the exception. Many, many other players are getting slaughtered by RTG, and that's their experience.

How do you know their experiences are the exception? People tend to bitch when they lose, but they don't necessarily post everytime they win. I sure don't. Nor do I post very many winning screenshots, unless it's a monster. I just looked through the WS thread, and I see a pretty fair balance between MG and RTG screenshots.

And for those getting slaughtered? The solution is simple, stop playing.

We all know that people do win, no one is saying that they don't. Those of us who have been playing for years, and recognize the rapid steady downward trend as compared to when we started are not delusional.

I have been playing for years, around nine I'd guess. I have good months and I have bad months. But in nine years of play, no difference (noticeable difference) in "how" the slots play. Of course, if Rusty's assertion that slots are weighted is indeed true, then that would mean they've probably been weighted since day one.

These complaint threads against certain softwares, tend to go in streaks. About three to four years ago.....there was a huge hoopla about RTG, very similar to the posts I read here day in and day out nowadays. I even started to wonder myself if they'd done something to the payouts, reel strips, etc. That went on for months, then sort of died out. Some of the people posting started winning again, and it was on to MG and claims that their software was rigged/fiddled with. Again, that went on for months....and then it was on to 3Dice. Then it was back to MG about a year ago. And now here we are again with RTG. What happened to all the bitching posts about MG that flooded this forum last year? I mean people were calling for the heads of MG execs on a plate and demanding answers.

I don't know how often the posters who are getting slaughtered play, but if you're playing everyday (or multiple deposits in a day), then your losing sessions are going to FAR outweigh any winning sessions you may have. I play roughly once a week, and I'd say that only one of every four weeks produces a session worthy of a cashout...whether that be Inetbet, 32Red or 3Dice. But I expect that and I'm fine with it.

If all of your history logs read like this for month in and month out then you have a valid argument. For now, though, asking people why they are complaining about RTG seems like a rhetorical question to me. This is the third thread I've seen you post those logs, and ask what's up with RTG complaints. If you are going to go around championing RTG in every complaint thread about them, you will be writing for a very long time, there are many.

Furthermore, its great that you want to give credit to a casino/brand when you are winning, however its not so great to start a thread about how great it is and refute opinions from another thread that state the opposite, IMO. Which Ironically is what I'm doing, and its bad etiquette.

I have to disagree, I'm glad for a change to see someone post that they won. Why is it bad etiquette to "refute" claims of rigging with actual proof? Someone won, and I'd lay a bet that there are many more winners out there, who just don't bother to post. I'm up at Inetbet for July, I'm also up at 3Dice. Sorry to say I lost at 32Red this month, so I'm probably about even overall. But the point is that I could post about it...I just choose not to.

I also have had great wins at RTG casinos TOC but i have also fell off that high horse your riding on now, be prepared for that fall as it will come, saddle sores and all.

RTG is a fine software and im a loyal player to their casinos, so if i want to bitch or anyone else for that matter wants to bitch and moan......whats it to you?............You may find yourself in the same seat later on............laurie

I saw the other thread you started Laurie, about why don't we cashout when ahead. The answer seems pretty simple to me.....lack of self control and a desire to win more. I think someone summed it up when they said greed.

If I deposit $10 at Inetbet or 3Dice, and get up to $100..I cashout. If I deposit $20 and get to $150 or $200...I cashout. If I were to up my bets once ahead, and proceed to lose it all....no one to blame but myself. You certainly can't blame the software when you had the chance to take winnings out of the casino. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the people having these bad runs at RTG (or wherever), did have opportunities to cashout, but continued on playing and lost...which absolutely would lead to frustration.

Anyone is free to bitch and moan all they want, but when does it end? How many times do you guys have to get kicked in the teeth before you say "uncle"? Obviously the ones doing the complaining are still playing there....so I have to ask....why?

People are also free to post about their good experiences, whether that be at RTG, MG, 3Dice or wherever. If you guys don't like it, then do what I do when it comes to the "RTG is rigged" threads....don't read them, or skim them and ignore them.

Honestly, for those who don't enjoy their playtime, and get nothing out of it but frustration and anger......why are you playing?

I wouldn't have even bothered with this thread, and would have ignored it like I ignore all the other ones....except for the fact that everyone is jumping on someone who posted a positive experience. That's their right, just as it's yours to bitch and moan when you lose playing slots.

Final note....I find it amazing how many people jump on the rigged bandwagon, with absolutely no proof but their "feeling" that the slots aren't right. Maybe it's so, I sure wouldn't want to bet my life that these casinos don't cheat...who knows? But that Topgame crap that went on a couple of months ago? There was oodles of PROOF of rigged/cheating software, and nothing but a runaround from the rep....where were all you guys then when the proof was there for all to see? There are still a ton of unanswered questions, and questionable practices. Why isn't everyone grabbing a pitchfork and a torch, and calling for that software company to be strung up and forced to come clean? I'll just never get it.....*heavy sigh*.

[classymom]

Well said Pin - I like to play @ all the softwares - I have ceased all Rival play because I cant hit squat (and bonuses have become silly) my MG play is not much better. I have been getting a lot of play time on my deposits @ RTG for months now so I will play where I enjoy the games and can win a little. I'm not saying people are wrong in their views on RTG - I just dont see it. I only play for enjoyment ( about 50.00 a week ) and for the moment RTG is where I will play.