RTG still rocks!

[Pinababy69]

I'm not saying people are wrong in their views on RTG - I just dont see it. I only play for enjoyment ( about 50.00 a week )

Agreed Classy....I'm not saying they are wrong either. Just that there are two sides to every story, as your post proves. And your budget is about in line with mine. If I lose it, it's not going to break me. If I get lucky and win....it's a bonus.

[slotheadlizard]

I'm not sure how to display multiple quotes in a post. (can someone please tell me? thanks)

Since the thread is entitled RTG Rocks, I'll just address the issue of RTG. The experience I was referring to that was an exception was winning from comps twice in a row with nice cashouts. How do I know that is an exception, common sense and experience! As far as the slaughter comment, I did not ask for a solution because the previous thread from which this one was derived was about the solution, stop playing at RTG, and remember how it played when all online gambling returns to the US. Also, it was a general assumption based on the posts in that thread, I had not injected any personal experiences.

Now, I know you have been playing for nine years and have not noticed a trend. I respect that, and as you already know from some previous posts, I respect you.( you scare me) However, I can say for me personally that the slots have changed. I don't care what expert or math person comes on here and says its always the same no matter what. It used to play well or average, but lately it has been crap. My observation may not be scientific or logical, but it has been my experience.

I can't argue that sometimes they hit big, I have hit big at a couple. It is truly the exception, Ive lost far more than I have won. I won't bitch too much about this because this is gambling, but if I agree with an opinion, or disagree for that matter I will comment.

Perhaps you misunderstood my bad etiquette statement. It was not related to this thread, but the one upon which TOC jumped all over other posters for saying RTG sucks, in not one but at least two threads, and in the second thread the poster was really talking about 3D. They barely mentioned RTG, yet TOC made it a point to defend them with their stats. I love reading about and seeing winners and screenshots. So I stand firm that if someone wants to bitch about something and post about it, being asked what their problem is, was a little rude to me. They stated what their problem was, and many agreed.

I wanted to address the when will the bitching and moaning stop statement. Probably when there isn't much to bitch and moan about. So never.

It seems that you have included many concerns in your reply. One being the fact that maybe people don't have self control, or are greedy. Those are certainly valid arguments for sure. What about those that feel the playtime is terrible. You don't even get up enough to consider cashing out because there is nothing to cash out?

You seem to think we are bashing someone who simply posted some nice RTG experiences, yet you ignore the fact that the poster has been going to other threads and rudely inserting questions like "Come on, what is your problem"? when others are stating opinion and fact as it applies to them.

As far as the rigged software issue, I have no comment. I read Rusty's observations and find that he has some valid points. I won't pretend to know anything about the mechanics of slots. I also take into consideration the statements of the ex RTG employee that has said some very interesting things.

Now with all this being said and since I have not taken the position that RTG sucks, or that its software is rigged, I'll say this. RTG is my fave. software, I've said so in a few threads. Most of my screenies are RTG. I play there because I like a couple of the casinos namely Casino Titan and Inet. Both of these have been good at times, very good at others,and not so good most. If anyone is doing extremely well on these casinos or any other I think its great, shout it from the highest mountain, but don't tell me I should shut up if I'm shouting from the highest mountain how much at times they suck.

To TOC, once again, congrats on your win. It is not my intention to diminish your great success with RTG in anyway. Also, I just noticed that you just joined in July. Welcome, and Good Luck

[GGW Laurie]

I think its all about frustration Pina, i was pointing out the fact that no one is going to be a winner all the time and that the O/P might find that luck comes and goes and for some who enjoy RTG casinos and play often, you tend to notice when the slots arnt hitting like they used to, ive been playing too long Pina and i beg to differ that the payouts have changed some what, but i still love RTG and will continue to play................I meant no disrespect to the O/P at all, you should know me better than that...........laurie

[johnsteed]

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You see, I guess I find some of those threads selectively useful.




It'll be great when people who should know better, decide to stop it with this "I play for the sake of entertainment, if I win super, if I don't, no biggy" kick (idealistic approach), and fess-up, and admit that if you're not on the other side of the industry, we play with the idea that we can win. That is why we play. The process of winning, and how to get there, is the fun. This isn't sports entertainment (WWE), it's gambling and we're entertained by the thrill of winning (or from the constant fear of losing). It's okay to convince and train yourself that it's not a big deal to lose, for personal control over the long run, but we're in it with the hopes of winning.



I'd have to think that a solid portion of the forum members don't come here, just because they're going to shower casinos with praise. The reality is that there's good and bad. If you elect to sweep all that is bad under the rug, than that is your choice. But berating other members for being sore losers is very snobby if you ask me. To do this "I'm the perfect example of what a prime customer should be, and you're not it" act, makes me want to throw my computer out the window.



I absolutely love reading about forum members experiences, good and bad. That's why I come here. You can't have the sweet without the sour. If no one complains, where's the balance? Conspiracy theories? Love 'em. Do I have to buy into them? My choice. That's the point isn't it? I happen to think that they make the most interesting threads. Any time where the person believes that they should write about something that's important to them, why not? It's cyberspace. And Casinomeister.com isn't exactly the wild west. It's run very well, and I don't see them locking accounts for people expressing their opinions and gaming experiences, even if the topics aren't always pro-Casino or PC.



Let's not forget, these topics will repeat themselves, because there's always a bunch of new members joining each year.



It's surprising to me that people will tell you that all of the casinos numbers are in perfect order (I'm not talking about the operators here), and that those who dare question those numbers, have no proof, are stupid, and wrong. No one knows squat. On either end of the argument. No one here, has access to what goes on inside the RNG for any of the platforms (except the guy who used to work for an RTG casino knew a bit of what was going on... can't remember the name...). I don't know of anyone who's a regular player who gets answers from the top at MG HQ, and is walked-through as to how everything works. The only person who knows everything, is silent. The only thing we have, is our gaming experience. So, please NEVER stop sharing the good or the bad of whatever is going on. This please shut up you're boring me with your complaining position is another attempt to draw a line-in-the-sand and create problems.




Is it wrong, that I suspect that MG flash version will never give me a royal flush? I've been playing for years now, have put lots of money and time, and have yet to see it, yet when I play the download version, the top-heavy hands appear more frequently. That is my experience. That is what I know, because I'm sitting there in front of the monitor, for years, and that's all I can see. The operators will say that everything is in working order - you can count on that - and that it's just a matter of time before something comes. It never has, and I suspect it never will. So, am I wrong to draw any conclusion, based on my own personal game play experience? I find that fascinating that I should just believe in blind luck & faith, and never question anything. Amazing!



Before anyone jumps on me, and says the patented "well if you think everything is rigged, quit playing and get a life" line, I do think you can win, I think that you can use strategies and proper money management (even though I'm told that it doesn't work). I think that most casinos give you "session selected" or "time-framed" opportunities at winning, but hey, I'm just smacked with "conspiracy theories"! If I'm wrong, so be it. But, that's my experience, I've played a lot, over every platform (even... uggghh G-Fed), and over a wide-assortment of casinos. I don't deposit at just one casino, and call it a day. They aren't all the same, but hey, that's my belief because that's my experience. I guess because I don't have enough documented facts to support my experience, I should just flush them all down the toilet.





Steed


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[3cardpoker]

I have been playing for years, around nine I'd guess. I have good months and I have bad months. But in nine years of play, no difference (noticeable difference) in "how" the slots play. Of course, if Rusty's assertion that slots are weighted is indeed true, then that would mean they've probably been weighted since day one.

That's impossible. How can you not notice when each RTG operator sets their on return %? You mean to tell me if RTG-A sets slots payout at 92%, RTG-B sets it at 95%, and RTG-C sets it at 98%. You couldn't tell the difference? Either you have a blind eye. Or you just depositing for entertainment only. I can walk into a B&M casino that offers surrender on BJ and knows there a difference from the one down the street that doesn't. RTG has changed and Its easy for a Canadian with access to other casino software to comment about not playing; RTG if we feel its rigged. Us USA players are limited. And most of us shouldn't have to worry about if a Software Company is running a fair joint or not.

[RobWin]

Steed, it's great to see you back in the forum posting some. You have been missed around here...

Have I ever told you guys that I like hotdogs on Tuesday afternoons and sometimes burgers on Thursdays?

Even though the hotdogs always give me heartburn, I still choose to eat them, maybe it's because I am waiting for that one special hotdog eating session that I will find where I don't get the heartburn. That's the reason that I continue to eat them and the fact that I love grilled hotdogs keeps me coming back for more of the same punishment.

What the above statement has to do with this thread and this subject that is being discussed in this thread I'm sure some of you will be able to connect the analogy to. For the one's that can't, then you will most likely never be able to..

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[slotheadlizard]

OK, what if you continue to eat those hot dogs every Tues, heartburn be damned. You are OK with the pain and misery. Then I suggest some Tums before you eat them. You reply, oh no I don't mind the punishment, I just wish it were a little less severe. I then reply, OK I know they have banned some hot dogs at the Real Tasty Grill, but soon Mustard Grill will be open all over (hopefully), then perhaps you can remember how RTG made you feel every Tues, and give MG a chance.

I then tell you I too, love hot dogs on Tues but have cut them down to about 2, the heartburn isn't as bad, and sometimes nonexistent. This may shock you but I'm not a Dr. so don't take my cure as gospel, its just an opinion. Plus to fully help you I would have to know if you take ketchup!

[spearmaster]

Wow... 3 posts in this thread alone nominated for Post of the Fortnight?

Great going guys, keep it coming. And a special Hi to our long-lost friend JohnSteed...

[GGW Laurie]

OK, what if you continue to eat those hot dogs every Tues, heartburn be damned. You are OK with the pain and misery. Then I suggest some Tums before you eat them. You reply, oh no I don't mind the punishment, I just wish it were a little less severe. I then reply, OK I know they have banned some hot dogs at the Real Tasty Grill, but soon Mustard Grill will be open all over (hopefully), then perhaps you can remember how RTG made you feel every Tues, and give MG a chance.

I then tell you I too, love hot dogs on Tues but have cut them down to about 2, the heartburn isn't as bad, and sometimes nonexistent. This may shock you but I'm not a Dr. so don't take my cure as gospel, its just an opinion. Plus to fully help you I would have to know if you take ketchup!

I be damned if you and Rob havent given me heartburn already over hotdogs im going downstairs and take some Pepto now, thanks you two also good to see you back johnsteed............laurie

[gambblex]

I think its not prohibited to take a quick look at OP's public profile