Lucky red casino

[zman]

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At least one person is smart enough to dial international numbers. I just got him to call me on the number on my account and low and behold he got through and would have showed up as a missed call if i didnt answer.

[vinylweatherman]

Hello vmw, thanks for replying. I have actually wagered $280,000 in one week so most casinos would happily cover my fees. Tom is just telling everyone he can indeed charge them fees if he feels like without prior consultation. He is making me pay for 3x $39 deposit and 5x $30 withdrawal fees.

To be honest any casino that caps on withdrawals per week should not be accredited for the sole reason that they are esentially holding the players money hostage.

I dont mind having 2-300 stolen from me by Tom if it shows how sneaky his network is and hopefully prevent others from playing on their casino sites. I have actually pmed you my number, feel free to ring, i will just let it ring out.

You are FIRMLY in the majority of cases where a casino would cover the fees. I have NEVER been charged fees by Club World, and have sometimes wagered LESS than this as a ratio of my deposits.
I am afraid this does rather look like "sour grapes" on the part of the casino because you INITIALLY tried to withdraw after miniscule wagering, but this was down to what is quite frankly a ridiculously low table limit of $25 for Blackjack, something I have NOT seen at other casinos, where $100 is the lowest I have seen.
As soon as you were able to get the limit lifted, you did NOT bear a grudge, you decided NOT to withdraw after all, but give them some decent amount of play - it seem though, that the casino DOES bear a grudge, and STILL insists on charging you the original fees as though you had only wagered the initial £1.50

You ARE getting paid though, minus the $147, so your dispute reduces to the matter of the $147. It looks as though the casino does not want you as a customer, too many "red flags", so you might run into further trouble if you played again, or opened an account with one of their sister sites.

The $3000 withdrawal limit applies to everyone, it is NOT really a suitable casino for the high roller, but would suit the majority of players. Only twice have I run into their limit and had to wait, but many consider me a "high roller", although I am certainly no "whale".

[zman]

You are FIRMLY in the majority of cases where a casino would cover the fees. I have NEVER been charged fees by Club World, and have sometimes wagered LESS than this as a ratio of my deposits.
I am afraid this does rather look like "sour grapes" on the part of the casino because you INITIALLY tried to withdraw after miniscule wagering, but this was down to what is quite frankly a ridiculously low table limit of $25 for Blackjack, something I have NOT seen at other casinos, where $100 is the lowest I have seen.
As soon as you were able to get the limit lifted, you did NOT bear a grudge, you decided NOT to withdraw after all, but give them some decent amount of play - it seem though, that the casino DOES bear a grudge, and STILL insists on charging you the original fees as though you had only wagered the initial £1.50

You ARE getting paid though, minus the $147, so your dispute reduces to the matter of the $147. It looks as though the casino does not want you as a customer, too many "red flags", so you might run into further trouble if you played again, or opened an account with one of their sister sites.

The $3000 withdrawal limit applies to everyone, it is NOT really a suitable casino for the high roller, but would suit the majority of players. Only twice have I run into their limit and had to wait, but many consider me a "high roller", although I am certainly no "whale".

I have wagered over 93x my deposit and i am still slugged the fees.

Thats semi true. They are charging me $30 for every $3000 withdraw also from what i gather. So it would be $147 + 4x $30 more. So in total $237 i believe.

I definitely wont be playing on their sites any more and will tell all my high roller friends not to also.

[vinylweatherman]

I have wagered over 93x my deposit and i am still slugged the fees.

Thats semi true. They are charging me $30 for every $3000 withdraw also from what i gather. So it would be $147 + 4x $30 more. So in total $237 i believe.

I definitely wont be playing on their sites any more and will tell all my high roller friends not to also.

Well, this is pretty much unheard of, and certainly NOT for an accredited casino. 93x deposit wagered is WAY over even the WORST terms I have seen. Winward was rogued, and one of the complaints was that it imposed a WR of 30x on all deposits, even if no bonus was taken. Here at least, you are getting paid, but 93x wagering STILL does not get you free withdrawals.

It seems the rep made a big song and dance about you depositing your $3000 in increments over 45 seconds, and this seems enough that no matter what you do after getting off to a bad start with them, you are STILL getting charged the fees.

I would suggest making your withdrawal, and then using the PAB service to get the issue of the fees investigated. Using PAB over the entire withdrawal might result in all your funds being delayed pending resolution.

[4 of a kind]

I agree with Vinylweatherman here, that the casino is no doubt showing a sign of sour grapes. Yet, I also understand the casino's concern with the P.O. box issue. But since Zman was depositing and withdrawing with the same wallet the issue should of been closed much quicker.

They obviously raised his limits with the hopes of him going bust while delaying his cash-out. Unfortunately for them he won. Now they pissed him off and have no chance to recuperate anything. God only knows what they could of gotten in the future from him had they treated him correctly.

Looks like this turned out good for the player, and the casino got lumped up because of possibly tricky tactics.

From what I gather reading several different posts here, most of these online casinos are not prepared to deal with high rollers, or even have a clue on how to deal with them. Or maybe their just afraid of them getting lucky. Although a high roller will usually be a good catch for a casino, a lucky one is capable of giving them a serious ass kicking. Especially if he packs up and goes some place else. When I gambled in foreign countries with serious funds, I was treated more like a gangster then a wanted guest. I was once having a bj shoe you would pray for, and had the table limits lowered during mid shoe. When I put up a stink, I was told to cash out and to leave the casino and was not welcomed back. I then became worried that I was going to get mugged outside.

I would suggest in the future when trying a new ONLINE casino out as a high roller, table limits, deposits, withdrawals, cash-out structures, fees, etc.. should all be discussed with a casino manager prior to any deposits being made. If it's a reputable casino I'm sure they would change certain rules to satisfy you, along with having no problem giving you the changes in writing.

[zman]

Yeah will do that vwm

I will do that 4 of a kind. You would think they want big players but apparently not

[Jasminebed]

I missed this thread earlier because it was around the time of my surgery this summer.

I joined luckyred with a ND bonus tonight. No luck, but that is not unusual for me at RTG.

A search for them here pulled this one up. I will not be making any deposits and hence no withdrawals.

I've played where there are fees for withdrawals by certain methods, or you are allowed one free per week. But I don't think I've ever played anywhere that charged you to deposit. And especially not retroactively.

A while back CM said that "fairness" was a consideration for accreditation here at CM.

I cannot see a policy such as this, especially when the fees are not available up front, as fair.