Moans and groans

[Crackpotbaby]

Also, I love reading Silcnlayc's observations, I am normally in agreement with her. She is a seasoned member who tells it like it is. Hope she continues to do so.

Me too. I'm a huge fan.


This is my first post, and I've read a lot of her work and others since joining (and as a non-member for years prior to this one). I often share her opinions or player experiences in more ways than one. Here are some of the reasons I appreciate her.


* Her thoughts derive from her own gaming experience, and she doesn't compromise her viewpoints for the sake of the overall group-think that can sometimes exist here. Her truth may not be yours, but at least she's being honest about it.

* She has a great writing style. You may not think so, but I most certainly do.

* She's a 100% player. She's not an affiliate, working for or representing a casino, or bought out with bonuses. Those who take the time to write about their playing experiences, shouldn't be weeded-out and punished. If you don't like reading about them, don't. I do. I'm thankful there are people like her (and many others) who don't do the secret handshake thing (and that's by no means directed at the moderators who're awesome ).

* She's actually deposited and re-deposited at more than 1 single casino, so she might know a thing or two about what she's talking about. Shouldn't that equate to something?

* She doesn't regurgitate the same mantra, time and time and time and time again. Beating the same drum, all the while showing complete bias to something without being even a fraction open-minded about something different. She thinks differently. She doesn't fall-in-line aiming to please.

* And best of all, she's not some Pollyanna or someone pretending to be the second coming of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. She's not the type who's really a cyber-bully in disguise, who derails threads with his/her constant need to feed his/her larger-than-life ego with never ending self-promotion, who's in a constant battle to show that he/she is smarter than you are, who needs to stomp on others like cockroaches when they don't meet his/her criteria. You know, the type of person who'll be political behind the scenes, sometimes acting all sweet, always campaigning with her/his need to win battles by strategically abusing the "Thanked Post" experience, to alienate others, all the while name-dropping such-and-such, to pull in her/his alliances at every turn, to prove that he/she doesn't stand alone. The one who tries to always come off as though he/she is posturing from a position of great - and false - strength. The one who speaks about everything, acting like the moral bridge between right and wrong, when they in turn were the fire starter of the whole ordeal. The one who manipulates everything at her/his discretion. Just my 2 cents.


No, Silcnlayc isn't that, and I'm thankful she's on her own page.


Be thankful that real players share their experiences. If you don't like it, simply move along. I for one, need to know what the people from every level of the industry down to those who are paying with their own money are thinking. Hey, they took the time to write about it.

[bb28]

* And best of all, she's not some Pollyanna or someone pretending to be the second coming of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. She's not the type who's really a cyber-bully in disguise, who derails threads with his/her constant need to feed his/her larger-than-life ego with never ending self-promotion, who's in a constant battle to show that he/she is smarter than you are, who needs to stomp on others like cockroaches when they don't meet his/her criteria. You know, the type of person who'll be political behind the scenes, sometimes acting all sweet, always campaigning with her/his need to win battles by strategically abusing the "Thanked Post" experience, to alienate others, all the while name-dropping such-and-such, to pull in her/his alliances at every turn, to prove that he/she doesn't stand alone. The one who tries to always come off as though he/she is posturing from a position of great - and false - strength. The one who speaks about everything, acting like the moral bridge between right and wrong, when they in turn were the fire starter of the whole ordeal. The one who manipulates everything at her/his discretion. Just my 2 cents.

Wow........was that a bit of rant? Sounds like you've been hanging out for quite a while in order to arrive at so many observations.

[Rusty]

Wow........was that a bit of rant? Sounds like you've been hanging out for quite a while in order to arrive at so many observations.

I hope the Kitchen knives are in the draw.

Welcome to the forum though crackpotbaby

[Jasminebed]

Welcome to the forum Crackpotbaby, that is quite the first post.

Hope we hear more from you, you write well and are obviously intelligent.

I was prepared to thank your post until the rant began...there are many members here, and whether I agree with them or not, I respect most of them.

BTW, I too enjoy reading silcnlac posts, as I do almost everyone here, agree or disagree.

[slotheadlizard]

Me too. I'm a huge fan.


This is my first post, and I've read a lot of her work and others since joining (and as a non-member for years prior to this one). I often share her opinions or player experiences in more ways than one. Here are some of the reasons I appreciate her.


* Her thoughts derive from her own gaming experience, and she doesn't compromise her viewpoints for the sake of the overall group-think that can sometimes exist here. Her truth may not be yours, but at least she's being honest about it.

* She has a great writing style. You may not think so, but I most certainly do.

* She's a 100% player. She's not an affiliate, working for or representing a casino, or bought out with bonuses. Those who take the time to write about their playing experiences, shouldn't be weeded-out and punished. If you don't like reading about them, don't. I do. I'm thankful there are people like her (and many others) who don't do the secret handshake thing (and that's by no means directed at the moderators who're awesome ).

* She's actually deposited and re-deposited at more than 1 single casino, so she might know a thing or two about what she's talking about. Shouldn't that equate to something?

* She doesn't regurgitate the same mantra, time and time and time and time again. Beating the same drum, all the while showing complete bias to something without being even a fraction open-minded about something different. She thinks differently. She doesn't fall-in-line aiming to please.

* And best of all, she's not some Pollyanna or someone pretending to be the second coming of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. She's not the type who's really a cyber-bully in disguise, who derails threads with his/her constant need to feed his/her larger-than-life ego with never ending self-promotion, who's in a constant battle to show that he/she is smarter than you are, who needs to stomp on others like cockroaches when they don't meet his/her criteria. You know, the type of person who'll be political behind the scenes, sometimes acting all sweet, always campaigning with her/his need to win battles by strategically abusing the "Thanked Post" experience, to alienate others, all the while name-dropping such-and-such, to pull in her/his alliances at every turn, to prove that he/she doesn't stand alone. The one who tries to always come off as though he/she is posturing from a position of great - and false - strength. The one who speaks about everything, acting like the moral bridge between right and wrong, when they in turn were the fire starter of the whole ordeal. The one who manipulates everything at her/his discretion. Just my 2 cents.


No, Silcnlayc isn't that, and I'm thankful she's on her own page.


Be thankful that real players share their experiences. If you don't like it, simply move along. I for one, need to know what the people from every level of the industry down to those who are paying with their own money are thinking. Hey, they took the time to write about it.

Welcome to the forum crackpot yes Silc is one of my favs., no agenda just straight talk. There are some really good posters, some are really funny, some are really smart, some are annoying, and some really scary (pina) just kidding, she's great Like you, I too lurked for months before actually joining. Now I really like it, keeps me occupied instead of just depositing.

[slotheadlizard]

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2. Posting Complaints

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I think that most complainers probably do not follow 2.2

Just my humble opinion.

Wager, very true, but sometimes a complaint isn't about a specific casino, so no need to inform. I don't know why some people post moans in the complaints section It may just be a bitch session about your experience (crappy few weeks or whatever). I would prefer if people just mentioned the software, though if you are just moaning there's really no need to do that even. This does not include specific valid complaints though, yes rules need to be followed.

Nor does this apply to the one member who was all over the place with a certain complaint. No clue what that was about.

[chuchu59]

Wow........was that a bit of rant? Sounds like you've been hanging out for quite a while in order to arrive at so many observations.

Quite right Bonita. I say please come out in force all you lurkers so that we can all share our experiences and different points of views. If you have something to say, say it and dont be shy.

[Pinababy69]

We don't really know that do we Pinababy?
The fact was that 32Red were trying to cloud the issue by bringing bonus terms into the issue and this had very little to do with the cause of the problem and they did change them retrospectively.
That was Red Herring though.
Of course the new term did not apply to Rado because it did not exist at that time so I can hardly congratulate them on that.

I don't think 32Red handled that particular case well but fair play to them for coming around and shutting down the affected games.
I am just not sure how much praise a Casino is due for eventually paying someone their winnings after putting them through grinder.
Is that the level we have reached?

Anyway onwards and upwards and God bless us and our outspoken views.

EDit: Jese I'm cranky this Week, you will all be happy to know I am going out for a good blowout this W/E. Smilies every post next week.

Just curious Rusty, how should they have handled the terms thing? Just left the incorrect terms up on their website...because changing them made them look bad? The only reason they were quoted to him was because Pat had been trying to highlight that Rado's WR were going to increase to 100X (because he was under the impression that the term in question WAS in place, as it should have been). So, they should have left the wrong terms in place then?

As to the rest, I agree with you....waiting two weeks to see any sort of movement was totally unacceptable, whether that was down to 32Red or MG, or a combination of both.

Behave yourself this weekend.

[chuchu59]

Pina,

As usual, Pat is on top of things and so we had a happy ending. However, there is always room for improvement and while I dont diasgree with Pat changing the terms it would have been even better for him, with the benefit of hindsight, to at least have communicated to Rado that the terms would be changed leaving no room for misunderstanding. As it was, Rado immediately cried foul. Once we are in the midst of a serious argument/issue every little thing becomes particularly sensitive.

32RED has maintained its stellar reputation through its handling of this case including the willingness to accept that something had gone wrong and ultimately pulling the live dealer game away. Sometimes casinos do not immediately draw the right conclusions, sometimes they are a bit tardy but basically its the trust of operations like these that we still feel safe to gamble online.

Finally, if Pat reads this, I want to rant about when you will ever allow players from Hong Kong to play at your casino again?

[Pinababy69]

Pina,

As usual, Pat is on top of things and so we had a happy ending. However, there is always room for improvement and while I dont diasgree with Pat changing the terms it would have been even better for him, with the benefit of hindsight, to at least have communicated to Rado that the terms would be changed leaving no room for misunderstanding. As it was, Rado immediately cried foul. Once we are in the midst of a serious argument/issue every little thing becomes particularly sensitive.

That's a good suggestion Chu, and one that 32Red and all casinos should keep in mind if something like that pops up again.