Cleopatras Gold (RTG) rigged?

[Rusty]

Has anyone else noticed this game playing differently?

The reason I ask is because there are Three strange statistical anomalies that have appeared that were not present before.

1) I have hit the First Two scatters (reel 1&2) over a Hundred times consecutively without initiating the Free spin round (previously it used trigger around 1 in 5)

2) I have not hit 5 of a kind on Two win lines (Two combos same spin) over the same period (Yet this used to happen reasonably often)

3) I have not had a Feature pay over 100Xbet over the same period even with retriggers. (Usually it is between 10 and 20X bet)

I am unsure of the start date but the period includes a great number of spins (5 figures) on this slot at various RTG.

Now the fact that all 3 massively unlikely events have coincided over the same period (must be many Millions to One) makes me think that this slot has been altered but since the Reels and paytable are the same that would mean it has been rigged by RTG to pay less.

Or is this just a case of 3 unrelated events coming together to make for One huge coincidence?

If you have played this slot a lot (Tens of Thousands of spins) both in the past and currently what are your experiences?
Are they similar to mine or are they completely different?

 

[lauram]

This same slot has given me issues also. Month back it started with soon a scatter landed no sound for it. If i heard the sound meant scatter only. I could not line up more then 3 symbols and lucky if that out of 100 spins one day.
And now im lucky if i even see scatter. One spin of mine i had 3 scatter one on the last one as the reel stopped the second reel spun again and away went my 3 scatters. So yes they have done something to this i barley play it any longer.

 

[gerilege]

I have noticed that when I get a scatter on any of the first three reels, and there won't be another scatter on the screen at the end, then there's no sound for the scatter. Only if I will get at least two scatters the sound is present.

 

[tombee]

I don't know what it is, but I did notice before that I've only had bad luck on this slot for the last 10.000 something spins. I tend to avoid it now, while it used to be of my favorites

 

[Rusty]

I have noticed that when I get a scatter on any of the first three reels, and there won't be another scatter on the screen at the end, then there's no sound for the scatter. Only if I will get at least two scatters the sound is present.

Yes and that is the same for everybody yet it never used to happen until an update.
That is proof at least that the code affecting the game has been changed.
This bug is not present in Cleo's Millions.

 

[Rusty]

I don't know what it is, but I did notice before that I've only had bad luck on this slot for the last 10.000 something spins. I tend to avoid it now, while it used to be of my favorites

That is interesting because now the RJ on Cleopatras Gold increases more slowly than many other slots yet it used to be One that would increase the quickest intimating that many others have noticed the same issues.

 

[winbig]

Has anyone else noticed this game playing differently?

The reason I ask is because there are Three strange statistical anomalies that have appeared that were not present before.

1) I have hit the First Two scatters (reel 1&2) over a Hundred times consecutively without initiating the Free spin round (previously it used trigger around 1 in 5)

Are you stretching this a bit? Over 100 times in a row? Or do you mean over 100 instances of this occurrence? Quite a difference. I would love to see those logs...

 

[ramones70]

that would mean it has been rigged by RTG to pay less.

Personally I think that's the case. I have noticed the same thing at some other games. Goldbeard which is one of my favorite games just frustrates me nowadays; free spins that suck and wild symbols that almost never appear in a winning line.

 

[Rusty]

Are you stretching this a bit? Over 100 times in a row? Or do you mean over 100 instances of this occurrence? Quite a difference. I would love to see those logs...

Obviously I do not mean 100 times in 100 spins if that is what you have inferred.

Unfortunately the playlog data I have access to does not show the reel positions of each spin so I am going off memory.
I naturally started taking note after noticing it was not hitting maybe 10 times or so in a row.
Since then many Thousands of spins later I have been looking out for it.
I don't set autoplay that often but hey it is possible the feature triggered with the First Two scatters and I've missed it but that is very unlikely.
I am not stretching it at all that is why it is so compelling.

I did manage it on a retrigger as I remember but not to initiate the free spins.
I am sure RTG have access to the full data and I will happily have them go over all my playlogs to see.

I have playlogs that prove the other Two anomalies and those alone are strong evidence something is amiss.

 

[skiny]

Gold Rush

Last game I played was Gold Rush. 944 spins at 25 cents per spin.

Almost 96% hit less than one dollar. In fact 88% hit less than my 25 cent wager and I averaged a free spin feature at 1 out of 236 spins.

I've had better days.

Sometimes it seems like the longer I play on a deposit the worse the odds get.

 

[ksech]

I noticed the no sound issue for the scatters back before Christmas. Cleopatras Gold used to be one of my favorite games. I find it very difficult to hit a bonus round, and when I do the pay out is far less than what I have invested in the game. Example, playing Fruit Frenzy (another one of my favorite games), it took me 250 spins before the bonus round hit. I was making small wins, enough to keep me playing. The bonus round netted me 10 free spins to a whopping total of $12 and some change. I was playing .50 a spin.
***I am one of those players who will keep spinning hoping that "great" bonus round will hit within the next few spins***

 

[silcnlayc]

I have not had a Feature pay over 100Xbet

Been saying this numerous times for the last many months...especially after every "update" that seems to be done.

All RTG's have been affected. I said it before and I say it again..the changes have been subtle for the new player not to notice , but the old players such as me that has been playing since 1996 or earlier (can't remember but know it is at least then), knows when something is not quite the same..

I played Inetbet all weekend and the RJ spinner was barely moving on all the huge jackpots which we know always spin faster when it gets super high. One was over 14,000 and the other over 10,000 and barely crawling...they didn't change hardly at all all weekend. What are the odds of that???

Are they similar to mine or are they completely different?

They have been for months..Yes, things are definitley changing and not for the better. I have stopped playing a lot because of this. I still dabble here and there but not like I used to.

I am waiting for the other shoe to drop where it becomes legal and then I will come back on board full force knowing someone is watching these places and keeping them honest . Right now..I think they are falling to the wayside from greed maybe?

Can't be lack of players because they all claim huge signups...If Intercasino would open their doors again, that would be my main spot...I know they are on the up and up for I have played there early on...and actually hit their Rapid Fire jackpots on and off with different denominations played unlike RTG....not one in all these years playing 20 cents to over $5 a spin..

I still say only new players are now allowed to hit them and it is proven almost every time by the signups at CM (screenshots) How many oldies have hit it recently? (in the last few months)? I can count them on one hand...how many newbies, you have to use your fingers and toes and the person next to you too..so that too has changed...and I have given up all hope on hitting one ever now at any RTG..and I played RTG 90% of the time so you figure it out...the odds should have been with me a long time ago...


Pretty soon, the bonus rounds will be just a dream the way they keep "updating" these games..
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[skiny]

I've been complaining about the lack of bonus features on the real series slot games for quite a while but I just get told I have bad luck.

What do I know? Maybe I do have bad luck.

4 bonus features out of almost 1000 spins seems a little harsh though. Specially when the last two only earn about 5 bucks each.

 

[hucorte]

No problem

No problem in my case. As regular as the other slots. In fact a bit better than some.

 

[Rusty]

No problem in my case. As regular as the other slots. In fact a bit better than some.

Thanks.
Have you activated the feature when hitting the First Two Scatters and have you hit bonus rounds of over 100X bet recently?
Also have you managed a win of 5 of a kind on more than 1 line on 1 spin?
At which Casinos do you play this slot?

Thanks again.

 

[skiny]

Now after posting about the lack of bonus features I hit 10 free spins in Achilles and then hit the bonus spins 4 more times during the free spin feature making a total of 50 consecutive free spins.

Course at only a 20 cent bet the entire thing only paid about 14 bucks.

 

[silcnlayc]

Now after posting about the lack of bonus features I hit 10 free spins in Achilles and then hit the bonus spins 4 more times during the free spin feature making a total of 50 consecutive free spins.

I guess they gave you a star by your name after posting

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[gloria460]

Has anyone else noticed this game playing differently?

Yes it is playing very differently!! When I first started playing it I used to hit the scatters so often I was shocked...I even hit the 5 scatters once and four scatters quite frequently to...now it's very random and when you do hit you don't win anything even with the retriggers..hit for three retriggers for a total of 40 spins at .75 cent and didn't break 20.00

 

[silcnlayc]

I even hit the 5 scatters once

I hit them twice in one sitting, many, many moons ago...ahhh..those were the days!

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[skiny]

Every time I play these RTG slots I see exactly the same pattern.

I deposit. Win for a short time a little amount and then hit a losing streak until my balance hits zero.

I just dropped from $55 to $14 at minimum bet on real series slots before finally hitting a 2 bonus features and both of them won me back less than a dollar each.

I've even tried quitting and coming back but the streak carries on till the money is gone.

Of course I'm always told it's just my bad luck. Odds have nothing to do with gambling.

 

[ballysdb]

I have the same problem with no sound for the first scatter. It only makes the sound sound if I'm getting 3.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I've even tried quitting and coming back but the streak carries on till the money is gone.

Interestingly enough but this often works for me.
Most resent experiences: Started with 120, played 2 games at $1 with no bonus, lost almost half. Had to close and re-open casino because the lobby was not responding. Playing the same 2 games after restarting, hit bonus rounds on both within 10 first spins, both more then x100. Then I had to restart a few times but my luck was pretty much steady till i finished play-thru.

Not complaining, just find this streakiness rather weird, seems like "predetermined" at login time.

Or sometimes i cant hit bonus round, i just leave it sitting there for 5-10 min and often hit a bonus within 10 first spins. And usually i switch game after i hit a bonus. If i lost 1 or 2 games, i know its time to logout... ( the hardest thing for me to do).

Coincidences - may be - but similar happened more then once.

I don't find the same with MG slots.

 

[Rusty]

Thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

What I am really interested in is not just if you have found the slot to be tighter but in what ways.
Have you noticed specific events that are not in keeping with previous play?

Those of you who have said the slots is different have you hit 5 of a kind on multiple win lines recently?
Have you been triggering the feature when hitting the first 2 Scatters?

I note that most of you said how the Free spin rounds generally pay less and this seems to be a fact which proves free spin rounds are predetermined...and if Free spin rounds are predetermined, well...

If you have seen no change in this slot (You must have played it Tens of Thousands of spins and for over a Year) then please do not be afraid to post.
I am interested in all accounts but please ensure good or bad you can back up what you say with statistics.
Remember you can request playlogs for just Cleopatra's Gold to see if it is just perception or reality.

Many thanks.

 

[skiny]

I played Inetbet all weekend and the RJ spinner was barely moving on all the huge jackpots which we know always spin faster when it gets super high.

I was losing most of the night at Sun Palace last night and the Random Jackpots weren't moving either. I asked another casino about that once a while back and they had no real answer.

I think it's about time for me to give up on RTG slots. I used to enjoy them and I don't really mind losing sometimes but it would be nice to close the casino with more money than you opened it with once in a while.

I think I only win long enough to keep the payout percentage up and then I play one step forward and 3 steps back until I'm broke. If you question any casino about the behaviour of the slot games they basically tell you that The RNG is tested so it has to be fair because it's random. I tell them randomly losing every spin is still losing. They also tell me I just have bad luck. If my luck was this bad for this long I'd have been hit by a bus years ago.

I know it's just entertainment. I'm not a big spender and I only play what I can afford to lose. Still, I don't like paying to see a bad movie or eat a bad meal either.

If I just want to watch things spin for nothing I'd sit on my bed and spin my chair around. I can do that for free.

 

[sparkles]

I dont play

Cleo as much as I do some of the others, but yes those rounds are far harder to come upon than they used to be for certain,.

In saying that Im finding most of the games I generally play are terrible, I play green light a lot, features harder to hit, if you do hit them, impossible to hit the second round, and $ for rounds poor, yesterdays for instance, were all under $15 on $1 bets when I was lucky to hit them, and no retriggers at all.

Archilles is another that getting the bonus is like winning lotto. Ive noticed these changes a lot in the last week or two, and its not just one RTG Ive played 4 different and they are all playing the same,.

Sorry if this is not solely about Cleo, but I really do think its a general thing, and when we play them a lot we notice the changes, because we are not stupid and it cant all be bad luck if a lot of us notice.

Things are getting interesting with RTGs with there changes in deposit bonus etc asc well, whats next I wonder.

 

[skiny]

I always get told I have bad luck.

If I get hit by lightning I feel like I have bad luck.

If I get hit by lightning while walking around an open field with a steel rod in an electrical storm.... I just feel stupid.

 

[Rusty]

Cleo as much as I do some of the others, but yes those rounds are far harder to come upon than they used to be for certain,.

In saying that Im finding most of the games I generally play are terrible, I play green light a lot, features harder to hit, if you do hit them, impossible to hit the second round, and $ for rounds poor, yesterdays for instance, were all under $15 on $1 bets when I was lucky to hit them, and no retriggers at all.

Archilles is another that getting the bonus is like winning lotto. Ive noticed these changes a lot in the last week or two, and its not just one RTG Ive played 4 different and they are all playing the same,.

Sorry if this is not solely about Cleo, but I really do think its a general thing, and when we play them a lot we notice the changes, because we are not stupid and it cant all be bad luck if a lot of us notice.

Things are getting interesting with RTGs with there changes in deposit bonus etc asc well, whats next I wonder.

Yes it does seem to be all games, for example I had run on Aladdin where I could not find the Genie even with 4 picks, this went on and on (more than 10 times in a row without finding the Genie) and when you consider you should have a 50% chance on each round to find the Genie with 3 picks (5/10) and 80% with 4 picks (4/5) then the probability of my run is One in many Thousands.
That alone would be just an unlikely event but when you take it with all the other unlikely events the evidence mounts up that the slots are heavily weighted.
Also you are right about Achilles.
I used to be able to get retriggers on the Achilles feature but I would guesstimate I have not had One in over 50,000 spins.
In the same period I have only hit more than 15 Free spins Once and even the Castle feature rarely retriggers.

The reason I want to focus on One slot is because it makes it easier to pin down any anomalies. If it is statistically proved that One slot returns less than used to be the case when no changes have been made to the probability of outcomes then it is also proved that RTG slot returns are manipulated either by RTG or the Casinos that use their software.

I always get told I have bad luck.

If I get hit by lightning I feel like I have bad luck.

If I get hit by lightning while walking around an open field with a steel rod in an electrical storm.... I just feel stupid.

A very fine analogy.
Fortunately my tin foil hat is so large it acts as Faraday cage thus protecting me from the worse of any storm.
(read into that as much or as little as you wish )

 

[NewOrleans]

didnt you know???

doesnt anybody know already??? the R in RTG stand for RIGGED! just kidding

 

[skiny]

doesnt anybody know already??? the R in RTG stand for RIGGED! just kidding

473 spins at Vegas Joker from deposit to bankrupt without a single free spin feature in any game and you say RTG is rigged?

-- Puts the steel rod down and backs away slowly.--

 

[takethemoney]

Rusty, thanks for the head up on this slot. I thought it was just me. I have opened accounts at all 3 of Cherry Red, Rushmore and Slot Oasis. I used the 400% coupon at all three with $300 deposits each. I could not get any traction whatsoever on the Cleopatras, at any of three of the casinos. Infact, my bank roll was exhausted before being anywhere near playthru at each.

You'd think you have a pretty good shot in the arm betting 2-5 dollars per spin on a $1500 bankroll on each. Not so. What the hell is going on?

Your first two reel observation is absolutely correct. I wonder how many people are gonna have to bitch about this before they fix this gaffed bullshit?

 

[silcnlayc]

Rusty, I played Cleopatra on and off for in my 4 hour marathon and I did see what you were saying..about the first two reels with the scatter...it did not hit the bonus round when they fell on those reels....but I did hit 1 bonus round on 3 scatters on different lines..nothing exciting to talk about on 15 free spins either...

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[Rusty]

Rusty, thanks for the head up on this slot. I thought it was just me. I have opened accounts at all 3 of Cherry Red, Rushmore and Slot Oasis. I used the 400% coupon at all three with $300 deposits each. I could not get any traction whatsoever on the Cleopatras, at any of three of the casinos. Infact, my bank roll was exhausted before being anywhere near playthru at each.

You'd think you have a pretty good shot in the arm betting 2-5 dollars per spin on a $1500 bankroll on each. Not so. What the hell is going on?

Your first two reel observation is absolutely correct. I wonder how many people are gonna have to bitch about this before they fix this gaffed bullshit?

Rusty, I played Cleopatra on and off for in my 4 hour marathon and I did see what you were saying..about the first two reels wiuth the scatter...it did not hit the bonus round when they feel on those reels....but I did hit 1 bonus round on 3 scatters on different lines..nothing exciting to talk about on 15 free spins either...

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I expect it to be fixed fairly soon because it makes it obvious the slot is not entirely random. (Breaking News, haha)
It is a massive anomaly because when initiating a bonus round of 3 pyramids all combinations should be just as likely.
Combinations 1,3,4 1,3,5 1,4,5 2,3,4 2,3,5 2,4,5 3,4,5 seem generally unaffected.
Combinations 1,2,3 1,2,4 1,2,5 seem to have been weighted out of the game as I have not triggered any of them for many Thousands of spins and dozens of Feature wins.
That statistic is so unlikely as to be as good as impossible in a genuine random unweighted game.

That means that 30% of my possible triggering combinations have been AWOL for a prolonged period of play which goes someway to explaining why the feature round triggers less.
I am currently well over a 1000 consecutive spins on this slot without triggering a feature round.

It used to trigger around 1/130 spins but over the last Few Months I am probably around 1/160 spins. Roughly a 30% drop off

As I say the other obvious stand out anomalies are never hitting 5 of a kind on more than One line at the same time (Used to win on 2 lines at same time with reasonable frequency)
This actually extends to other slots too, especially Achilles and has occurred for well over 50,000 spins possibly 100,000.
Nobody else has commented on if this is the same for them.

Retriggers are less frequent and Free spin round wins seem to be limited to below 50 times bet.
Seriously, how can you go over 50 consecutive Free spins round (15 Free spins X3 multiplier) and almost exclusively win between 10 and 30 times bet?
Even more pathetic that includes retriggers.

Everyone should check their playlogs for these sort of anomalies if they think they are having suspiciously bad luck.
Don't worry about the shills telling you it is just sour grapes or you are a bad loser, that is their job.

The more these anomalous stats are brought to forums such as this the more the Casinos and software companies have to take notice.
That can only result in fairer games for everybody.

If you are unsure what your playlogs show then feel free to PM me and I will look at them for you.
Sometimes though it is just about observation, such as the scatter problem above which can not be proved through playlogs, but can be qualified through shared experience.

Of course there will always be freak events occur even in unweighted software but when the same freak events keep occurring and are observable by different people it becomes a phenomenon.
What is the cause of this phenomenon?
Weighted slots.

 

[skiny]

My problem is that I can't stand watching a game lose 1000 spins in a row.

I went broke after 500 spins but I played about 4 different games.

No bonus out of any of them from start to finish.

 

[takethemoney]

Crystal waters is doing the same shit, from my experience in the past couple days. I have over 200 x where it hit the sailboats on the first two reels, then did not make the 3rd. Finally got the bonus round on #201 and I got a whopping $3.97 on a $.40 bet. Other games are doing it too, now I'm gonna start tracking it closer.

At this point in time I'm I'm really starting to question why I bother depositing lately. I pretty much know the outcome 99.9% of the time. No wonder so many new RTG's are always popping up........we're a sure kill.

It's not bad luck gang, the games are either gaffed or we didn't get the memo that the payouts were changing. Think they'll give us our money back? Hell no, would be my guess.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

yes, i was noticing that on Crystal waters and some other games (i don't really play Cleo). Scatters on real 1 and 2, nothings lines up because of this and no bonus.

 

[Rusty]

Yes but remember the reel lengths are often different and they may be more than 1 scatter on some reels making certain combinations more likely.

I chose Cleopatra's Gold because the reels are similar lengths and there is only 1 scatter on each reel.

What I noticed with Crystal waters was the amount of times I hit the scatter on the Fith Reel after the First sctter had hit without another but it very rarely appeared when Two scatters were already in place.
Also the Bonus Fish seems to appear much less often in the bonus round.

Another thing to look out for that I have seen a lot lately is to have Four jackpot or higher paying symbols on a winline but missing the Third Reel.
I must have seen this happen the same way half a Dozen times on different games recently.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I have noticed that when I get a scatter on any of the first three reels, and there won't be another scatter on the screen at the end, then there's no sound for the scatter. Only if I will get at least two scatters the sound is present.

I am trying this at 2 different casinos in FUN mode and it seems to be working OK now.

 

[skiny]

I was playing hidden treasure for about 2 hours today and I was hitting free spins and bonus features fairly often. I actually made a profit. Hopefully things are looking up.

 

[Rusty]

I was playing hidden treasure for about 2 hours today and I was hitting free spins and bonus features fairly often. I actually made a profit. Hopefully things are looking up.

I sure hope so, goo luck

So played Cleo some more tonight and it actually played more like its old self.
I actually triggered the bonus round when hitting the first Two scatters and even manages some wins over 50Xbet.

Of course I was playing on a bonus and when I neared my WR everything died a death.
But in a way I'm glad because I now have more than enough data and I can no longer enjoy my gaming with RTG when I know they basically cheat.

I have now played my last game on RTG software.
It was fun at times and frustrating at others just as gambling always is but often it was just plain annoying.
I am now closing my remaining RTG accounts.



RTG RIP

 

[takethemoney]

I am trying this at 2 different casinos in FUN mode and it seems to be working OK now.

LOL, I aways win hundreds of thousands of dollars in fun mode. Duh!

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

LOL, I aways win hundreds of thousands of dollars in fun mode. Duh!

I meant the sound. See quoted text...

 

[skiny]

I did alright for a while the last couple of days with a mix of RTG games but this evening the bottom fell out and I'm back to 200 - 400 spins for a bonus feature. Dropped a hundred bucks at 2 coins per line and gave up.

 

[skiny]

Finally after breaking that mysterious losing streak I hit a half decent bonus feature that brought my balance back up and guess what? Another mysterious all night losing streak. Minimum 150 spins for a bonus feature all night and every bonus feature pays about 3 dollars. Not bad since it cost at least 50 dollars to hit them.

191 spins to hit get 10 free spins on Funky Monkey and not a single multiplier. Total for the bonus? 74 cents.

I find lately every single time I hit something worth while I'm tossed into a long losing streak that eats up everything I won and then some. I'm getting tired of dropping hundreds of dollars 25 and 50 cents at a time to finally win back 10.

Is Cleo rigged? They all are.

 

[silcnlayc]

I'm getting tired of dropping hundreds of dollars 25 and 50 cents at a time to finally win back 10.

It's called upgrades which seem to be happening every week to all RTG's for some odd reason when no games are released...there were 2 this week for all of them again (RTG"s).

The reasoning...they give none except for the matter of how the games play after each one of these updates/upgrades...they have been TWEAKED to our detriment...

I have uninstalled all of them but 2 and they will be next to go if they continue to play in the same vein...people , wake up...we are getting hammered and the reason for this is because we continue to deposit instead of letting them know our displeasure with the way they have been making changes to these games...the casinos have gotten way too greedy...and in the end..they will be the ones suffering..

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[Rusty]

It's called upgrades which seem to be happening every week to all RTG's for some odd reason when no games are released...there were 2 this week for all of them again (RTG"s).

The reasoning...they give none except for the matter of how the games play after each one of these updates/upgrades...they have been TWEAKED to our detriment...

I have uninstalled all of them but 2 and they will be next to go if they continue to play in the same vein...people , wake up...we are getting hammered and the reason for this is because we continue to deposit instead of letting them know our displeasure with the way they have been making changes to these games...the casinos have gotten way too greedy...and in the end..they will be the ones suffering..

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Yes, the dreaded RTG update
You would think they would make any clandestine upgrades/downgrades a little more surreptitiously but then you would think they would find a better way to display results than resetting the reels mid spin which by the way is not necessary as the reels always make at least One complete revolution.
It would be OK with very long reels but even then you would expect only One reset at the start of the spin where as with RTG a reel will often reset 2 or 3 times on One spin.(You see say a pyramid 2 or 3 times at the start of a spin although there is only One on the reel)
I have no idea why this should be but it always seemed to coincide with very bad losing spells.


Maybe One day they will explain what the constant updates are for since there is almost always no discernable change in the lobby,cashier or games.
Well except the way the slots seem to play that is. (mischievous)

Even more mysterious are the updates to a game you are busy playing.Doh.

 

[skiny]

If I complain I get told it's bad luck. If I complain any more than that I get told if I don't like don't play.

Well, I don't like it. So I'm not playing. Have it their way.

Maybe if everyone took a break for a few months from RTG they might take a hint.

Problem is there are a lot more players than the handful floating around in this discussion.

They might not get my money but they'll certainly get someone else's.

I put a chart of my last night's session in another thread. Sun Palace tells me that hitting less than you wager thousands of spins in a row is perfectly acceptable and if I don't like I should just close my account.

They tell me I could have withdrew while I was up. (duh.) I was up hundreds of dollars. I'm playing minimun wager. I thought it would at least give me more than a couple of hours worth of entertainment. Silly me.

 

[sparkles]

Its a real shame

because they can be fun slots, and if you can get a few hours entertainment, even without cashing out then thats great, though sadly that is becoming a struggle.

I know this is more about Cleo. Im basing mine more on green light, like the OP if yourd played this one a long while yourd be able to see the differences in your face.

The bonus so much harder to get
Very rare to get a second race, and if you do 4th or 5th.
Nothing much off the spins at all
There was a time if you saw 4 lights, yourd be 90% sure 3 would turn green, now you can be 90% sure they wont.

My features today
$2.50 bet - $20.50 bonus ($13 off the actual spins themselves)
$5 bet - $18.50 bonus ($3.50 off the actual spins themselves)

come on RTG you can do better than this surely.

 

[skiny]

They are doing better. It's us that's not.

 

[tombee]

I don't know why, but I decided to give her another chance. And guess what my first bonus is..? Btw result E1.31

 

[silcnlayc]

What I noticed with Crystal waters was the amount of times I hit the scatter on the Fith Reel after the First sctter had hit without another but it very rarely appeared when Two scatters were already in place.

Not to change direction on this about Cleo, but has ANYONE ever hit the rose when 2 are showing and the rose is under the box that flips in Treasure Hunter? I have spun THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS on this game and not once did I ever get a hidden rose when 2 were showing. The hidden roses flip over when you have one, but NEVER when you have 2. I think this game is broke too.

As to Cleo, I think these mini updates are doing something to these games because all of a sudden, bam, the feature many have tried to get in hundreds of thousands of spins that never appear all of a sudden pop up after numerous players complain about it....geez, can they get any more obvious just as the Green Light one was changed (I agree wholeheartedly on this awful change on this game) and ruined for the player.

I guess whichever game is talked about that gives the player a nice run they get on the horn and call RTG to tell them hurry, make a quick fix...on so and so game. They do not even care if it is a blatant change anymore..

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