
Originally Posted by
Paul@JetCasino
My point was that there is nothing in place to stop fraud besides the procedures already in place, which are very effective. It is an issue that is guaranteed to happen to some people, but so long as operators do everything possible to help prevent it from happening then we shouldn't worry too much about it.
If these procedures are so good, why do we see so many complaints from players who are apparently OK when these checks have taken place on any number of deposits, yet are "fraudsters" when they come to cashing out. I suspect that quite a few casinos skimp on the many checks that are possible, such as electronic credit searches to verify name & address, when players deposit, relying instead on the fact that THEY can only ever lose out if they pay a WITHDRAWAL to a fraudulent player, and concentrate all their checks at this point.
Neteller have far more stringent checks than credit cards, yet these checks are STILL not enough for most casinos, who ask for the same documents from a Neteller depositor as they would from a cash equivalent depositor (such as UKash vouchers, or gift cards). If the Neteller checks are so damn good, why is the fact I qualify to use Neteller to deposit not enough for me to use it to withdraw without sending the same set of documents to nearly every casino that I originally sent to Neteller.
As for children accessing casinos, what about the DELUGE of SPAM for casinos that is sent equally to an 8 year old's email address as to an 18 year old's one. The sheer volume of such SPAM, unlike Viagra, is for an activity many children will understand, and might decide to experiment with. Given the personal details required for initial sign-up, you would be hard pressed to find a child who doesn't know where their parent lives, since they live there as well. Add to this the name and age of the parent, and the child has enough for the registration, and any no-deposit free chip on offer. Older children will be able to figure out how to deposit, and will seek out the information needed, and the most careful parent is likely to slip up occasionally.
The ID documents required for a cash-out should not challenge the clever teen either, since no parent can stay awake 24/7 and ensure their rules are fully obeyed.
It would only be the tech savvy parents who stand a chance at stopping even the most determined teen in their tracks, but the advent of internet enabled mobile phones, and free public wi-fi access, will again hand the advantage to the teen, whose internet session could be taking place anywhere, not just in their bedroom, unmonitored by the parent.
Unless the parent can control EVERY computer their child can access, they CANNOT completely control the sites their child visits, or what they do there.
The UK is not exactly a shining light, since for many years it was legal for children to freely gamble on "Fruit Machines" in "family arcades". The US equivalent of these "family arcades" had only pay per play games, such as video machines or pinball. I have frequently encountered teens playing "Fruit Machines" on my many motorway services trips before I "found" the online variety, and these teens EASILY outsmarted attempts to enforce the under 16 ban as it was then. Now the rules are far stricter, yet it is STILL possible for the determined teen to play these machines, and still LEGAL in "family resorts" provided the gambling is for modest prizes and stakes. If children see gambling as family entertainment, they are more likely to engage in it as they get older - my posting here is proof of that.
Empty Fruities Astern Capt'n
Back to port for unloading.
Full Sails - before we get raided ourselves.
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