Why Are The R.T.G Casinos Slots So Tight ?

[LaurieJim]

Has anyone else besides me and a few others noticed how tight the slots are at some of our favorite R.T.G casinos? I have done well at other software casinos, but cant seem to hit even a good line hit, let alone a feature on R.T.G slots.

I wonder if the online casinos are feeling the economic pinch also and are just passing it on to the players, kinda like the local grocery stores and other merchants are doing.

I have been playing R.T.G games too long to know when something isnt right and there is a change, the games will run super fast one minute and then move at a snails pace the next.

I still think they are among the best online gaming software out there, with some of the better casinos using them, i just hope this is my own sorry ass luck but i would like to know if anyone else has had any good luck or is having the same as me, if so im feeling for ya.....................laurie

 

[CasinoKidd]

Has anyone else besides me and a few others noticed how tight the slots are at some of our favorite R.T.G casinos? I have done well at other software casinos, but cant seem to hit even a good line hit, let alone a feature on R.T.G slots.

I wonder if the online casinos are feeling the economic pinch also and are just passing it on to the players, kinda like the local grocery stores and other merchants are doing.

I have been playing R.T.G games too long to know when something isnt right and there is a change, the games will run super fast one minute and then move at a snails pace the next.

I still think they are among the best online gaming software out there, with some of the better casinos using them, i just hope this is my own sorry ass luck but i would like to know if anyone else has had any good luck or is having the same as me, if so im feeling for ya.....................laurie

I just played for quite a few hours on a $80 deposit.. But then again I was only doing 20c.. Best hit was $40... all in all not thrilled with the return/playtime. It's funny because it feels like during the evening they hit better then midnight/morning...

Yes, tighter.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

I had some luck @ CW a few nights ago just on slots though. Long playtime to get there (iirc ~$3.5K but did not post any screenies but I will here if I find quick to restore your luck,faith hopefully)..............That is the good news as I decided to max. spin it all rather than be subject to online BJ unless small stakes...........Well, at max. spin, can I stop now???

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Good Luck!!

 

[RoyallyFlushed]

I agree, I was going to ask the same thing but since Im new I didnt want to come off as the whiner type lol.

I made 4 deposits at an RTG in the last 8 days or so and out of all 4 deposits I had no cashouts and only one bonus round for $4. I thought it was just me

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

Long playtime to get there (iirc ~$3.5K but did not post any screenies but I will here if I find quick to restore your luck,faith hopefully

if you need to spin away 3.5 K @ max spin to get there, then most of us are totally hopeless.

 

[LaurieJim]

I had some luck @ CW a few nights ago just on slots though. Long playtime to get there (iirc ~$3.5K but did not post any screenies but I will here if I find quick to restore your luck,faith hopefully)..............That is the good news as I decided to max. spin it all rather than be subject to online BJ unless small stakes...........Well, at max. spin, can I stop now???

you just had to put up that damn fla. gator, well any luck just left the building for me, great shots there garry

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I had a good run at iNet last night, almost finished WR but then my luck changed and I lost it all today.
Yes, in general RTG was not much fun lately but neither was MG or 3dice.
Rival does not want us (canadians) anymore.
I don't know where and what to play...

 

[missmichelle]

I was wondering the same thing. I have really been doing terrible at inet lately. No playtime at all not matter what I do or play. I do know when my luck is bad it is real bad. Hoping it will turn around soon or I am going to give it up at least for a while. Wishing you all tons of luck!

Michelle

 

[Marie2473]

Ive never managed to cash out at an RTG casino - although I have deposited quite a bit I might say!
I still keep going back though because of the games and the dream of that one big hit =))

 

[daera]

I've found that when I make small deposits of $20 or so, I almost always lose it, and it doesn't take me long to lose it. But, at iNetBet anyway, if I make a $100 deposit, I can usually go to Cleopatra's Gold and put it on $1 a pin and autoplay and forget about it. Then come back an hour later and be up. Ideally I'd rather have a little more than $100 when I do that.

The other day I made a $50 deposit at iNetBet, went to Blackjack and got it up to $150 or $200. Then went to Cleo and set it at $2 a spin, put it on autoplay and forgot about it. Came back awhile later and had $600 or so. Played more and eventually had it to $2000. Of course I played some down and actually only cashed out $1200. But still, not a bad return from my $50 deposit

$20 deposits just never get me anywhere... wierd.

 

[lauram]

Im done also with rtg. With the way the games are now up and running with so many issues and i get its my puter. Yeah i know my puter has problems but i think the adding the funds in feature, and lack of adding the free spins on games when we are lucky enough to get the feature is their error not ours.
Then i have another rtg that i have deposit to for over a year never cashout and they still say they cant read faxback form. So that ended that with them.
I use to hit auto play 10 spins this time last year almost when all was done a lil over or maybe lost 4 spins out of it. But 30 spins same game and your down the cost of 30 spins something is very wrong.
My mg casino never played either this weekend just tired of the deals that dont apply. So maybe its time these casino have a look at what they have done to players. If they start loosing low rollers they are in turn looking for a different way to get more players and with the ban for so many countries now i can see a lot more casinos folding.

 

[LaurieJim]

I had a very nice reply email from Ms. Emily over at inetbet this morning, she says that there are no changes and hasnt been in the last 10 years they have been around.

I have chatted with Louise also and dont think that there is anything wrong on the casinos part as far as tweaking goes, what i do wonder about is R.T.G. itself, can they not make changes to their software, set the payout percentage on the games themselves.

If you have ever played the R.T.G game "Out Of This World" you would know that there has always been a small glitch in it, the credits show up when you win before the win shows on the screen and you can tell by the music, it does this at every R.T.G casino, so the problem is on the software providers side imo .....................laurie

 

[slafs]

I guess they are trying to recoupe some of the money nashvegas and myself have made during the last week!

This one's from Rushmore last weekend:

 

[heatherad]

There is definately something different with RTG. And as lauriejim pointed out, if you are a long time player of these games its not hard to tell that they are just not playing right.
Now I wonder if anyone can tell me whats wrong with the screenie I posted. Here's a hint, I'm in the free spin feature!

 

[LaurieJim]

There is definately something different with RTG. And as lauriejim pointed out, if you are a long time player of these games its not hard to tell that they are just not playing right.
Now I wonder if anyone can tell me whats wrong with the screenie I posted. Here's a hint, I'm in the free spin feature!

Is this the one heather? maybe someone will spot the glitch as i already know it, i dont blame the casinos but the software itself

 

[heatherad]

Is this the one heather? maybe someone will spot the glitch as i already know it, i dont blame the casinos but the software itself

This is the one lauriejim
If RTG know their software then they should of been able to spot the problem right off the bat.

 

[LaurieJim]

Did you let the casino know heather and what did they say about this glitch?

 

[heatherad]

Did you let the casino know heather and what did they say about this glitch?

They contacted RTG for me and RTG said they see no issue with it as I did get 1 free spin added, lol. And those who know this game know you cannot get just 1 free spin in the bonus round when you win additional free spins. They also said RTG re-enacted the scenerio and said it worked fine for them.
Sure the game worked fine for them, it worked fine for me too but just not all the time that night in the free spin mode.
They are going to ask RTG to look into the matter again.

My point is: If they know their games, then they should of picked up on the glitch right away and I shouldn't have to argue the fact like this

 

[Vegasbum]

I have found RTG casinos are the best for me. Much harder time at MG casinos. I have had many cashouts the past year from different RTG casinos. But then again I play much differently than everyone else.

I will say this (from experience)...do not play on auto spin. I will agree there is definately something wrong while on auto spin. I never use it

Good luck everyone

 

[lauram]

I had the same argument with them. Enchanted garden in free spins allows you to win extra games during the feature. 3 different symbols to me look like wasps appears. Mine always land before the reels stop spinning so i know if im getting more spins. If you get 3 each has its own value of free games added.
It is impossible to win one free game as you need 3 to retrigger. So the least you could get for that round is 3 free extra games. Outta this world is just as bad for me i hear the music as reels start if i hear that i know bonus round.
If i retrig and lucky enough to get 10 more spins most times it just adds 5 to it.
Same with cleo if that scatter never makes a sound on first 3 reels it lands i know im not getting anything more then that one scatter. Takes the fun out of it yet again they say its my putter showing wrong not theirs.

 

[silcnlayc]

Did you let the casino know heather and what did they say about this glitch?

Mine always land before the reels stop spinning so i know if im getting more spins

I posted and emailed them on this over 2-3 weeks ago when they had the last major update/upgrade...and they haven't addressed it saying nothing was wrong..you do see the dragonfly before the reel even stops during the free spin mode but you do not know how many spins you actually get until it shows in the upper part of the screen.

Yes, RTG has reduced their overall payouts, wins...just be aware if there is any updates during your log in, you will be in for a bad run...every time I see this now at any casino I just leave knowing they have once again "tweaked" certain games for lower payouts..Greenlight and Enchanted is just an example. You no longer hit more than 5 to 15 times your bet on greenlight...and picking the bet multiplier is almost imposible any more on the 2nd bonus screen when I used to hit it every 4-5 tries, now I have gone more than 30 tries and still can't catch the 2nd round..

Changes? You bet your bippy they have made changes..after playing 12 years I know for a fact they have reduced the percentage for payouts just by my play alone..they can sugar coat it all they want claiming they know nothing about it, but you have to be either dumb or blind if you cannot see the "update" screen on the login to any game that was tweaked..

I guess the casinos/software provider truly believes we, as players are really that STUPID to believe their denials.. Geeezes..

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[Louise]

I guess they are trying to recoupe some of the money nashvegas and myself have made during the last week!

This one's from Rushmore last weekend:

Very nice!!

Congratulations!!

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[heatherad]

I had the same argument with them. Enchanted garden in free spins allows you to win extra games during the feature. 3 different symbols to me look like wasps appears. Mine always land before the reels stop spinning so i know if im getting more spins. If you get 3 each has its own value of free games added.
It is impossible to win one free game as you need 3 to retrigger. So the least you could get for that round is 3 free extra games.

Exactly...you need the 3 symbols to win added spins and each symbol has an amount of extra free spins showing. As you can see in my screenshot, not one of the symbols is showing extra free spins. So at the very least, 3 free spins is the minimum amount of free spins you can win.

I posted and emailed them on this over 2-3 weeks ago when they had the last major update/upgrade...and they haven't addressed it saying nothing was wrong..you do see the dragonfly before the reel even stops during the free spin mode but you do not know how many spins you actually get until it shows in the upper part of the screen.

That is when I noticed the problem starting when the upgrade/changes took place. It was shortly after that that I noticed the glitch in Enchanted Garden. I also made them aware of the problem back then and by the looks of it, it is happening on more than just one game.

 

[spike38]

RTG

I must admit every one of the glitches listed above have also happened to me repeatedly, so its not just your computers. I have been playing Real Time Gaming since its inception and can attest that something is not right.
At a certain respected group of RTG's, I have taken over 200,000 spins on the slots since the upgrade and have TWO winning spins total, both on that stupid reindeer game. Everything else wasn't worth talking about. Needless to say I closed out two of the three accounts with this group and no longer play the third.
Also, at another highly respected group of RTG's I have made FOURTEEN deposits in a row without any game play at all . I contacted the manager through this board and he kindly checked my history and responded with an "I understand why your pissed " pm and then went on to tell me that over hundreds of thousands of spins the slots had payed out a whopping 82 % total for my play. He then generously gave me a $50 chip which was gone in ten minutes.
Until RTG gets their act together it'll only be very small deposits from me or none at all. Hopefully this thread will start them thinking.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

Vegasbum, I noticed that you usually bet $1 on 1 or 2 lines, is it what you call different or you have some other secrets? How long does it take to hit something dissent (and i can see from the sreenshot thread you do it quite often)? I could imagine it takes hundreds if not thousands of spin and you need a huge bankroll and lots of patience to play this way.
thx

I have found RTG casinos are the best for me. Much harder time at MG casinos. I have had many cashouts the past year from different RTG casinos. But then again I play much differently than everyone else.

I will say this (from experience)...do not play on auto spin. I will agree there is definately something wrong while on auto spin. I never use it

Good luck everyone

 

[Vegasbum]

Vegasbum, I noticed that you usually bet $1 on 1 or 2 lines, is it what you call different or you have some other secrets? How long does it take to hit something dissent (and i can see from the sreenshot thread you do it quite often)? I could imagine it takes hundreds if not thousands of spin and you need a huge bankroll and lots of patience to play this way.
thx

I do have other secrets on the way I play..and I have not shared them. But just to be clear, I bet much lower on lines (0.5,.10,25 ect) But these do not usually make the screenshots as I like to post only the best. The most I play is 1 dollar on a line. I only play 1 line, 2 lines and 9 lines.

Also so on my bankroll, I usually start with 100 and will take bonuses. My last deposit at Clubworld was 100 dollars and is now up to 1,400. The playthrough has just 400 more to go. I will withdraw 1000 (or more on monday)

I developed my own system and never stray from it

 

[Pinababy69]

The way you are describing the lack of play/poor payouts is what I have experienced over the last ten months....until last week. I hadn't had a cashout at Inetbet since last April. I don't even remember if I ever even got one deposit close to, or over, $100. I very seldom got bonus rounds/free spins, and NEVER close together. And when I did, they paid very little.

What I have experienced since maybe Wednesday of last week, is the exact opposite. The games are much looser for me.....tons and tons of bonus rounds and free spins, on all games except for Coyote Cash. That one ate my entire manager's bonus on Friday without a whiff of a bonus round.

Anyway, finally had two cashouts on Friday night (decent ones). If the games were tweaked, then they have tweaked them individually......raised the payout for me, Nash, etc. and lowered it for the rest of you. I still say it's all luck. It was just my turn and right time to win. I'll probably go another six months or more with nary a winning session.

 

[oldtrvlagt]

I whined about this in Anniemac's thread so I won't repeat..but they are TIGHT IMO. It bites....I would just like to have Nash's comp points

 

[silcnlayc]

Pinababy69: I'll probably go another six months or more with nary a winning session.

Pinababy69, and you are ok with this??? Do you not question why such a dry spell in between the few and far between "hot" sessions? Are they at the same casino or various...

Just wondering because I play 99% of the time at the same casinos and going more than a month at any ONE casino without a withdrawal used to be very unusual now it's the norm. The more players that are accepting this kind of return makes casinos more apt to "tweak" it even more to the CASINOS benefit since there is no backlash from players to their tightening up the games.

I KNOW I have backed off many casinos in depositing due to this greed on the casinos part and only deposit enough to play one session then I flip over to "fun mode". When a deposit of $50-100 doallars goes in a few minutes betting $1, then it's time to quit and move on or play in fun mode..

Why aren't more players becoming irate over these conditions? I do not understand this...and cut off the casinos funds...the power is in the players hands to make them more honest and fair in their payouts..

I cannot imagine going to the same landbased casino everday (or even weekly) for almost a year and accepting the fact that you lose each and every time...would you not think something strange is going on?? I know I go once a month to every three months and win almost ALL the time at a B&M casino...

The reason I play online is because it is more convienient than driving 4 hours but I guess soon, I might just have to save my money and go on monthly trips instead of feeding these black hole games..

Pinababy69, I am amazed that you of all people, are accepting this since you are so vocal on other issues and are so well respected on some of your opinions....I know I personally have been feeling robbed a lot lately...ahh well...ones acceptance is anothers devil...

.

 

[LaurieJim]

I just wanted to state that im not bashing any R.T.G casino or reps on the forum, i just wanted to get input on how tight the slots are lately and some of the software glitches that still remain unchanged.

We are lucky to have some good R.T.G reps on Casonomeister, Emily, Louise, Tom, just to name a few, who answer our posts and all three of these folks have went above and beyond helping each of us that plays at their casinos.

i would hope that someone will talk to the R.T.G software peeps and have the glitches issues checked out for your loyal players........laurie

 

[silcnlayc]

We are lucky to have some good R.T.G reps on Casonomeister, Emily, Louise, Tom, just to name a few, who answer our posts and all three of these folks have went above and beyond helping each of us that plays at their casinos.

As good as these reps are, how are they are going to be able to keep players coming back only so long until there is no more players left to play..the shame of it is that they are very good reps and the slots are very bad of late..so, the bottom line is...how much are these reps worth in the long run in bad sessions?

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[XOXOXOXOXOX]

well, there is must be a reason how RTG casinos can afford those huge bonuses that are in most cases not even cashable and then they have those huge random jackpots that they pay to not very random players as it seems.

they still must remain profitable, right?

 

[spike38]

RTG

I agree, the reps at these casinos are indeed stellar. But what good is it if the slots never payout. What a waste.

 

[missmichelle]

I feel like things have really slowed down. Less people playing means less payouts. As bad as I have been doing lately, I still feel like I am getting a fair chance at inet. If I didn't I couldn't continue to play. Let's hope it turns around for all of us.

Michelle

 

[kauphy]

hi

hi guys i don,t play at r.t.gs but do play alot on mg casinos and its not only r.t.gs that r tight but its also mg. i,ve had one cash-in and that was in dec for 1000$ on a x-mas bonus and i took only 600$ out wanted to leave some in to play on. but the one i play at most i have,nt won anything worth cashing out on they do give me lots of good bonus but what good is a bonus if you can,t win on anything you play. i,m almost to the point of trying some other casinos just to see if i can get a decent win at least something over 200$. weel i did,nt mean to derail this post just wanted all of you to know its just not r.t.g but i think maybe all of them have change things.

 

[jinnia]

Besides the slots (classic slots) being too darn tight, those classics that are progressives, the amount those jackpots now are outrageous!!

Diamond Mine, nickel play, progressive (where I played) was over $560
and still going up.

I don't recall exactly when, but I believe it was around October of
2005 (?), Staw released an update and the slots became horrible, then
the managers of the casinos could tweak them even tighter.

I still play them when I'm bored, but I believe being bored is better than
being completely frustrated!

 

[AudiManinBoro]

They can afford to give huge bonuses because they know in 90 % of the cases, their customers are never going to be able to fulfill them ! IT is so much harder to complete the wagering requirements on a RTG bonus thanit is an MG bonus its simply unreal. At least for me. As soon as i get within the last 25 % of the requirements the slots tighten up. No bonus rounds and very little wins and before i know it there isnt much left TO cash out. It happens almost every time. It simply Cant BE coincidence!!

I like RTG and I like some of the reps for RTG on this forum, but at the end of the day I remember now WHY Mg gets the vast majority of my deposits. No matter how good customer service or bonuses you are given with RTG, the one simple and most important reasons is I can WIN with MG. deposit after deposit after deposit with RTG and i can count on 2 fingers the winthdrawals ive been able to make. Compare it to deposits and i run out of toes and fingers. Its ridiculous!

 

[Zoozie]

There is a logical reason why RTG slots feels so tight. I know that the default configuration for the rapid fire jackpot videoslot are 94-94.5% payout and this is the setting most of the fair(paying) RTG casinos use.

This is not much below the Wagerworks/MG/3Dice/Rival 95%-96% payout. But it is not the whole explanation. It is because the rapid fire jackpot contribues 1.5% to the total payout% of the slots. So while the true payout is indeed 94-94.5%, the huge majority will never win a RJ and therefore they are playing a 92.5%-93% slot. And this is almost twice the house egde that the non-jackpot MG/WW/3Dice/Rival slot has.

The difference between a 96% slot and 92% are much more severe that it sounds. The 96% will give twice the expected playtime(twice the number of spins to hit something big), so this is basically my explanation for the players experience on RTG video-slots.

 

[bryand]

My results are consistent with this thread. Recently I played over $100 at .20 and .40 a spin and received 2 features but busted out in minutes.

 

[lauram]

Would be nice if a rtg rep responded to this thread. And i hope if they do us cm group will not bash them right? At least we will have some sort of a answer.
Be brave reps you can do it.

 

[LaurieJim]

i guess i cant complain this morning, i found my inetbet mgr. bonus in my acct and thought what the hell might as well have some fun....cashed out 500.00 after w/r were metI have to say its been one of the better times playing at any R.T.G in awhile.........laurie

 

[Louise]

i guess i cant complain this morning, i found my inetbet mgr. bonus in my acct and thought what the hell might as well have some fun....cashed out 500.00 after w/r were metI have to say its been one of the better times playing at any R.T.G in awhile.........laurie

Happy to see a little turn-around Laurie Unfortunately my efforts didn't help soooo much the other day - But, luck is luck

Hope you are well.

Concerning other people's luck, or lack of it - I can see players on right now that have thousands in their accounts from playing on slots, so I can only hope that my Casinomeister buddies can be one of these also sometime soon! Not so long ago, and even in the last couple of days I've seen winner screenshots - So some have the luck and some not so much recently!

Best of luck!

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[LaurieJim]

Thanks Louise, i have to admit you are among the most personable reps on here and you do everything in your power for your players, myself included and for that i applaud you as a fine rep and the fine lady that you are...............laurie....edit: i am doing fine louise, i did chicken out of that appt. i had

 

[Louise]

i am doing fine louise, i did chicken out of that appt.

Laurie, Laurie, Laurie! Naughty naughty!! I kinda don't blame you however!

All the best and thanks for your such kind words

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[2young2care]

I did alright this week at Slots Oasis.

so I can only hope that my Casinomeister buddies can be one of these also sometime soon!

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[vegetagirl2008]

I been doing pretty good @ Rushmore. It seems to me that if I play a certain time of the day I get a pretty good hit once in a blue moon. I haven't played lately but when I do hopefully it would be a nice hit. Don't give up. You will hit when you least expect it. And I don't like low rolling but when I do it is worth it.

 

[reda]

yes rtg s are tight. but i dont think for me it is just now happening. i go for a yr before i can hit a jp. and i play almost everyday. i have never hit a jp at inet. i have dep 100.oo time and time again and low roll and still cant hit a good feature pay out. its been like this for me for a while. i put in a 100.00 the other nite and got it up to 263.00 . pulled out 200.00 . that s good for me there. sometimes i wonder if betting higher might make a difference in the way the game plays but im not sure. i never know if it s just that time for the games to play or not. now im no bashing the rtg casinos that i play at because i have to say when i do request a bonus or a withdrawl ( at any amount) they are fast and on top of it. no hassle what so ever. and at club world i find i hit more often. seems sometimes in the day if slots wont play good i can quit and go back a couple hrs later and they will play. its off and on like that for me. they are reputible and thats why i play there. a few years ago i could hit pretty easy. not so much like that now.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

I been doing pretty good @ Rushmore. It seems to me that if I play a certain time of the day I get a pretty good hit once in a blue moon. I haven't played lately but when I do hopefully it would be a nice hit. Don't give up. You will hit when you least expect it. And I don't like low rolling but when I do it is worth it.

Hope its beter than Cherry lol, countless deposits and wiped out each time, might have to try rushmore and close down cherry :S Think someone has removed my luck gland

 

[LaurieJim]

A few of the rtg casinos seems to be better imo, i did find out one of them i deposited a good sum at said i had a 56% payout rate ,now that sucks........laurie