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Old 2nd December 2008, 12:27 AM
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MG are you taking the ****?

Mg gets worse and worse, maybe it is a joke?
It has taken me nearly 1000 spins in 3 different casinos to hit the free spins in the Osbornes and guess what?
2 Dogs in the whole 10 spins. 10Xbet.
My last 5 deposits at MG have all yielded below 70% payback.

Nothing has changed at MG?
That depends if you always thought they screwed their players doesn't it?

RTG and Cherry Red you are next, looking forward to listing my playstats with you over the last month or so.

As a matter of interest how as Osbornes played for others because I went nearly 300 spins without hitting the grab a prize bonus also

My New Years resolution is pretty obvious this Year but will I stick to it or continue to line the pockets of thieves?
Maybe I will surprise myself
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Hi Rusty, you are right. But do you think complain is useful?
Just quit playing MG. and play sth else.

Before I quit playing MG, JUL, SEP and OCT. 3 Months, I lost 20K on Thunderstuck.

I did hundreds K of spins @ 1.35 - 2.25 and even did not get 5 rams 1 time.

I played 200K hands VP and got 1 RF.

In 3 months, I waged half million and never get my bank roll above 2K.

So the only defense of me is to quit playing MG.

Now I am a happy player in iNet.and X'mas, I will only play RTG.
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Good luck with RTG
I need to stop playing slots though with the returns I am getting, maybe I will go back to playing VP a much more sensible waste of time and money
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I need to stop playing slots though with the returns I am getting, maybe I will go back to playing VP a much more sensible waste of time and money
MG Video Poker gives also bad returns since a couple of months.
I play it almost daily and I think I am going to take a break until MG gets back to normal
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cant resist..i have to reply to this thread...

I cannot believe that I am reading this. I just had this same conversation with some friends of mine that play at MG casinos and we are all in agreement. There has been some changes for sure..I know that you can play forever and never get into a bonus round or the free spins..I have also noticed in video poker you never hit a hand that is up in the top end of the payouts...best i can get is a four of a kind and those seem to come less also..
I was playing almost daily and i was wondering if it was my imagination and just trying to "blame" someone or something for my lousy luck..but I am now certain that things have tightened up substantially..I was thinking that because they are loosing players with all the "stuff" going on and that would make their player base less..less people playing would mean less revenue coming in and of course, less money being payed out..I have actually thought since the ruling past in congress a year or so ago I have seen the games pay much much less..could be my imagination..but I doubt it..

anyway..i just had to jump in here and voice my opinion..
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I need to stop playing slots though with the returns I am getting, maybe I will go back to playing VP a much more sensible waste of time and money
Rusty,

Have you tried Playtech or Wagerlogic?
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I played a bit of Blackjack, and the dealer just kept on getting 21 on many "bad" up cards. At the same time, I REPEATEDLY kept busting on 22 - odd really. I would hit a load of low cards to about 14 or so, then hit a bust card that took me to 22.

I don't think I should hit 22 that often, why not 24 or 25 - should be equally likely. Why 21 for the dealer, and not 19, 22, or 23.

Also, a very large proportion of PUSH results on my stands on 19 and 20.

I made a brief note from the session.

21 (Dealer - 7.15%) (Me 4.55%)
20 (Dealer - 17.5%) (Me 16.25%)
BUST (Dealer - 21.7%) - now this IS odd, since the dealer MUST HIT hands such as hard 16 or less, whereas I can stand and hope for the dealer to bust).

This looks like one of those long "streak" events, with a long series of hands all following this pattern.

3 Card Poker was just as bad, I was rarely getting so much as Q,6,4 - or more than low pairs - the dealer was constantly getting K and A high, pairs, flushes and straights. The dealer also seems to get more of the 3OK and straight flush hands than the player - but surely these should be equally distributed. Again - streak behaviour, not "flat" random outcomes.

The RTP of the SLOTS far exceeded the RTP of the above games, which supposedly have a much lower house edge.

In VP - many of my "wins" turn out to be a "push", with 2 pair seeming NEVER to produce a full house. This is very unlike how it used to be, with plenty of 4OK turning up, even though higher hands were equally rare then as now. Again, this seems to show games sitting in a rut, good or bad, rather than producing an even distribution of random results.
Hit a game that is "on streak", and the wins fly in, and seems equally unreal, but in a nice way. With SO MANY new games having been released though, it is much harder now to find the few that are paying well.

The overwhelming number of players reporting that things have changed for the worse seems to make it more likely that indeed something HAS been changed, rather than that 1000 players have suddenly fallen victim to an affliction of the mind.
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Mg gets worse and worse, maybe it is a joke?
It has taken me nearly 1000 spins in 3 different casinos to hit the free spins in the Osbornes and guess what?
2 Dogs in the whole 10 spins. 10Xbet.
My last 5 deposits at MG have all yielded below 70% payback.

Nothing has changed at MG?
That depends if you always thought they screwed their players doesn't it?

RTG and Cherry Red you are next, looking forward to listing my playstats with you over the last month or so.

As a matter of interest how as Osbornes played for others because I went nearly 300 spins without hitting the grab a prize bonus also

My New Years resolution is pretty obvious this Year but will I stick to it or continue to line the pockets of thieves?
Maybe I will surprise myself
an excellent post rusty and reiterates what i have been saying for weeks..MG is way different..but very soon a few people will come aong and tell you howmuch they were paid out..and you can gurantee that..you will also find no support for this thread from anyone nr the top of CM . but ahh at least us and many others can see whats going on and ive taken my first stance and closed my acct cos like you i know im throwing money away with little chance of a payout..anyhow ill crawl back into my hole and keep an eye on this thread but i expect as i said the MGlvers along telling you how brilliant it is <haha>
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I have been quietly playing poker at stars and watching since MG kicked Americans out of the progressives and stopped new players from joining.

The fleecing of America, several people besides myself predicted this. You couldn't put a gun to my head and make me deposit right now, lol.
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LOL it just gets better and better.
Summertime 3 deposits nearly 700 spins ZERO features and about 55%
That is on top of the 900+ spins it took me to hit the Osbornes and win nothing.

But hey...nothings changed
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