JF is closing off the US to NEW registrations

[Pinababy69]

Vegas Affiliates casinos include Grand Hotel Casino, Colosseum Casino, Vegas Joker Casino, Vegas Country Casino, Vegas Slot Casino and Vegas 7 Casino. All existing players registered from the U.S. will be allowed to continue to operate their accounts until further notice and U.S. affiliates will continue to be accepted

Until further notice? Absolutely agree Mecan, be very cautious. I wouldn't deposit too much, nor would I leave any money sitting around in accounts. And use any loyalty points and/or pending bonuses as soon as you can. Intertops locked out the banned state players with points and bonuses outstanding, no warning.

[Jackpot Factory]

Hi everyone,

I would like to clarify my posting. This decision is from the Jackpot Factory group and NOT from MGS. Unfortunately, I don’t always get the messages as I should. According to my sources in the industry many other MGS casino’s will be making similar announcement during the next few days. I think everyone has just come to the conclusion that accepting new US players simply isn’t worth the headache especially with the whole IP tracking and documentation issues discussed a few days ago.

I will repeat that we’re still more than happy to host our existing players and will continue to operate business as usually. Pinababy69, we’re certainly not planning on closing off the US to our existing players and all account balances are always going to be available to our players.

Mousey, I appreciate your comments regarding player notification. I’ve mentioned this several times before but to me the most important thing for this industry is transparency. No reason to keep our customers out of the loop on important issues.

All the best,

David Brickman
VP Player Affairs
Jackpot Factory Casino Group
http://www.jfspokesman.com/index.php?bTag=jflh

[dominique]

Intertops locked out the banned state players with points and bonuses outstanding, no warning.

Actually, Intertops woke up one morning to find MG had blocked access for certain US states... This is on the software level.

[Pinababy69]

Pinababy69, we’re certainly not planning on closing off the US to our existing players and all account balances are always going to be available to our players.

David, I absolutely appreciate you posting, and keeping the players informed and up to date. My only point is that as of right now, you have no intentions of locking out US players...but going on past history with MG and other software providers, things can change overnight.

I wasn't trying to imply that you were deliberately misleading anyone, not at all. Just that things can change, and sometimes with NO warning.

Actually, Intertops woke up one morning to find MG had blocked access for certain US states... This is on the software level.

Well, that's sort of my point though Dom..whether it's on an operator level, or software level, things can change with little or no warning. Better to err on the side of caution, don't you think?

If I were Intertops management, I'd be pretty pissed off if it happened as you say. Other casino groups (such as JPF for example) gave their players ample notice before IP banning them, thus giving them the opportunity to play out loyalty pts/pending bonuses, etc.

The only point I'm trying to make is that these are unsure times for all US players, with the landscape seeming to change from day to day. IF I were in the US, I'd rather be aware and at least make an informed decision as to who gets my money. I'm not trying to slam anyone or any casino group. Especially JPF, who it seems so far, are the only ones even willing to come on here and give any sort of update.

[dominique]

They are pissed all right, and yes, proceed with caution.

While I believe Micro is always trying to do the right thing and monies will be returned, there is no telling how long it may take.

[mecan49]

I totally agree! I have contacted the MGS casinos that I play at. They assure me that I am not in the current affected area. But it still concerns me. I love to play online, but think I will hang on to my money until this is straightened out.

[just play]

Does anyone know the percentage of US players that play at any casino?


Mr. Brickman....is this for public viewing? If so could you tell us?


I have always been interested in the percentages of countries that play at casinos.


Thank you

[Pinababy69]

I know this doesn't completely answer your question JustPlay, but it is somewhat related. This is from BrightShare, the affy program for Jackpot Factory. The US is/was the #1 player base, but as to exact numbers, I'd be curious to know as well. And I was pretty surprised to find out that Canada is their second largest market...I would have figured the UK for sure. I included Germany in the list as it seems that they are the most valuable on a player to player basis.

Canadian players – still our second biggest player base

Australia – our third biggest player base

Germany – with the highest player values and top localization we have plenty to offer here

France – no secret that this is the new US and we are in there with a very big investment

[just play]

I know this doesn't completely answer your question JustPlay, but it is somewhat related. This is from BrightShare, the affy program for Jackpot Factory. The US is/was the #1 player base, but as to exact numbers, I'd be curious to know as well. And I was pretty surprised to find out that Canada is their second largest market...I would have figured the UK for sure. I included Germany in the list as it seems that they are the most valuable on a player to player basis.

Canadian players – still our second biggest player base

Australia – our third biggest player base

Germany – with the highest player values and top localization we have plenty to offer here

France – no secret that this is the new US and we are in there with a very big investment

Onto a somewhat silly question.....How are the casinos going to survive?


I never would have picked Canada as #2 either? I have many friends in Canada and NONE of them gamble. (or drive...lol)

[Pinababy69]

Onto a somewhat silly question.....How are the casinos going to survive?


I never would have picked Canada as #2 either? I have many friends in Canada and NONE of them gamble. (or drive...lol)

I don't think it's a silly question. My "guess" would be that they will survive, but they'll have to get used to making less money. Operations like 32Red have gotten by okay, but then they have always geared their marketing more to the UK/European market, as opposed to US players. But....I'd bet if we had a look at their balance sheet at year end, their profits are not what you would see from a group that DOES take US players.

I also think this is why we have seen consolidation of groups in the last year or two. As in Carmen Media/Belle Rock absorbing the Trident Group. And Vegas Partner taking over the Golden Riviera Group...maybe others, can't remember off the top of my head. By consolidating their marketing costs, support costs, etc. they cut down on their overhead, and perhaps make up for some of the lost revenue from the US. That's all just a guess on my part, I'm not very good in Economics, but it does make sense.

P.S. - I don't drive either, lol. And anyone on a Canadian road anywhere near me, should be thankful for that.