Getting paid from rouge casinos UK only(I think) dont know wether it will work in US

[lee_bumble]

I think that i have learned how 2 get paid from almost all of the casinos from cirrus group and virtual group. My opinion is that they are the same company any way. The key is CDS = central dispute system. I so far have been able to withdraw well over $4000..... yes $4000. Which is by the way more than i have deposited. for me the only way to go about getting YOUR MONEY is this: I have noticed what i call stalling tactics by these casinos. example: "we havent recived you withdrawal documents yet." BULLSHIT. YOU NEED TO send them to support@whatever the name of the casino is, for example support@partycitycasino.com. yeah? that way you will get at a ticket and you will be able to quote this on live chat. another 1 "IT SAYS ON YOUR ACCOUNT THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO CLAIM NO MAX CASH OUT + NO PLAY THROUGH BONUSES" again bullshit, the only way you cant claim this is if you have claimed more free chips than you have actually deposited. example: if you have claimed $100.00 in free chips(which these kind of casinos give out like toffee sweets) is more than you have deposited, ya f**ked. get it? so i given you some of the stalling tactics that they use. when ever you see these signs just take it to the central dispute system. withdrawals from these casinos will take time, believe me. simply because of the amount of 2'ing and frowing between casino and CDS. i am on a crusade to get as much money as i can from these casinos as possible before they go POP! UK players are more than welcome to join me on this as I'm not sure of American law.

[winbig]

Thank god for google. you left out one important piece of info:

http://www.centraldisputesystem.com/form.asp

ps: Is that site RTG? It looks pretty cheesy to me.

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[vinylweatherman]

I think that i have learned how 2 get paid from almost all of the casinos from cirrus group and virtual group. My opinion is that they are the same company any way. The key is CDS = central dispute system. I so far have been able to withdraw well over $4000..... yes $4000. Which is by the way more than i have deposited. for me the only way to go about getting YOUR MONEY is this: I have noticed what i call stalling tactics by these casinos. example: "we havent recived you withdrawal documents yet." BULLSHIT. YOU NEED TO send them to support@whatever the name of the casino is, for example support@partycitycasino.com. yeah? that way you will get at a ticket and you will be able to quote this on live chat. another 1 "IT SAYS ON YOUR ACCOUNT THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO CLAIM NO MAX CASH OUT + NO PLAY THROUGH BONUSES" again bullshit, the only way you cant claim this is if you have claimed more free chips than you have actually deposited. example: if you have claimed $100.00 in free chips(which these kind of casinos give out like toffee sweets) is more than you have deposited, ya f**ked. get it? so i given you some of the stalling tactics that they use. when ever you see these signs just take it to the central dispute system. withdrawals from these casinos will take time, believe me. simply because of the amount of 2'ing and frowing between casino and CDS. i am on a crusade to get as much money as i can from these casinos as possible before they go POP! UK players are more than welcome to join me on this as I'm not sure of American law.

This is a high risk strategy. I am not sure why they are simply rolling over and paying when the CDS is used, but I expect they are looking for a way out, and by advertising for a "group" to work with you, you have given them another excuse for non-payment and delay, and this might be by accusing you of "player fraud", and trying it again and again till they succeed in winning a case with the CDS, which they will use as a precedent for all future ones. It is US players they are really out to fleece anyway, although the EU must be a tasty target to keep in mind, so perhaps they are playing along just to avoid getting a bad name too prominently in the UK, as they spam their casinos a fair bit, often under ever changing names and obscure ownership details.

No matter how good your system is, you have to beat both the software, and the stalling tactics of the casino. I would wonder what teeth this CDS actually have for when a rogue casino decides it simply doesn't want to pay, despite the CDS ruling it shoud, only by knowing this can you judge the risk of relying on the CDS to get you paid.

[suzecat]

I think that i have learned how 2 get paid from almost all of the casinos from cirrus group and virtual group. My opinion is that they are the same company any way. The key is CDS = central dispute system. I so far have been able to withdraw well over $4000..... yes $4000. Which is by the way more than i have deposited. for me the only way to go about getting YOUR MONEY is this: I have noticed what i call stalling tactics by these casinos. example: "we havent recived you withdrawal documents yet." BULLSHIT. YOU NEED TO send them to support@whatever the name of the casino is, for example support@partycitycasino.com. yeah? that way you will get at a ticket and you will be able to quote this on live chat. another 1 "IT SAYS ON YOUR ACCOUNT THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO CLAIM NO MAX CASH OUT + NO PLAY THROUGH BONUSES" again bullshit, the only way you cant claim this is if you have claimed more free chips than you have actually deposited. example: if you have claimed $100.00 in free chips(which these kind of casinos give out like toffee sweets) is more than you have deposited, ya f**ked. get it? so i given you some of the stalling tactics that they use. when ever you see these signs just take it to the central dispute system. withdrawals from these casinos will take time, believe me. simply because of the amount of 2'ing and frowing between casino and CDS. i am on a crusade to get as much money as i can from these casinos as possible before they go POP! UK players are more than welcome to join me on this as I'm not sure of American law.

lee, lee, lee..............really think a public message board is the greatest place to post your message Do you think it may just be possible that someone from Virtual or CDS reads this board?

[lee_bumble]

This is a high risk strategy. I am not sure why they are simply rolling over and paying when the CDS is used, but I expect they are looking for a way out, and by advertising for a "group" to work with you, you have given them another excuse for non-payment and delay, and this might be by accusing you of "player fraud", and trying it again and again till they succeed in winning a case with the CDS, which they will use as a precedent for all future ones. It is US players they are really out to fleece anyway, although the EU must be a tasty target to keep in mind, so perhaps they are playing along just to avoid getting a bad name too prominently in the UK, as they spam their casinos a fair bit, often under ever changing names and obscure ownership details.

No matter how good your system is, you have to beat both the software, and the stalling tactics of the casino. I would wonder what teeth this CDS actually have for when a rogue casino decides it simply doesn't want to pay, despite the CDS ruling it shoud, only by knowing this can you judge the risk of relying on the CDS to get you paid.

lee, lee, lee..............really think a public message board is the greatest place to post your message Do you think it may just be possible that someone from Virtual or CDS reads this board?

vinylweatherman you have some very intresting points but how ever i have only used CDS when ever they have used STALLING TACTICS. I am only saying what has worked for me. i am simply trying to help people that may have been in the same situation as me. I have or do not want any affiliation with these bunch of mo fo's but mearly to pass on what i know and what has worked for me. if you do use the central dispute system its not just rogue casinos in there its nearly all casinos that use RTG software inc rushmore + inetbet which as we all know are on the accredited list.

yes i hope somone from virtual or cirrus reads this message. its only a matter of time before the groups go pop!

[lee_bumble]

check this out. I thought the point of this website was to help prevent online casinos committing fraud against its players. now suzecat is telling me to keep quiet about what i know and what has worked for me. weird!!. last time i had a problem with one of these rogue casinos most of you guys simply directed me to the rogue pit. this i found extremely unhelpful due to the fact i had already deposited at these rouge casinos. is what i am saying right or wrong??

[Pinababy69]

CDS or Central Dispute System is what was put in place in lieu of the Montana Dispute Service. From what I've been told, it's even the same dispute form, just a different URL. And yes Lee....it's for all RTG casinos, not just the Virtual Group. This isn't any big secret, I thought I saw this posted on here quite a while ago. I know that I posted about it at WOL.

Try doing a search on the forum here for CDS or Central Dispute System, I'm positive you'll find a thread or two about it.

And the stalling tactics? This is nothing new...old news. If you continue to play at these joints Lee, you have only yourself to blame when they stiff you, and they will. You have been warned!!

Oh...and yes, Cirrus, Coolcat, Club Player, Palace of Chance, Slots of Vegas, Virtual, Prism, (probably the rebranded Warren Cloud clip joints) and so on, ad nauseum....all one and the same company, operating under the Virtual umbrella. If you must play RTG, stick to Inetbet or ClubWorld. Can't comment on Rushmore, although I'm less than impressed with some of the stuff I've been reading about them of late.

[suzecat]

check this out. I thought the point of this website was to help prevent online casinos committing fraud against its players. now suzecat is telling me to keep quiet about what i know and what has worked for me. weird!!. last time i had a problem with one of these rouge casinos most of you guys simply directed me to the rouge pit. this i found extremely unhelpful due to the fact i had already deposited at these rouge casinos. is what i am saying right or wrong??

lee, lee, lee,..............no one is telling you to be quiet about what you know (although it's fairly common knowledge) just suggesting you be smart about it. BIG DIFFERENCE

BTW, there's no rouge pit here that I am aware of, but there is a rogue pit full of very nasty types..........

[Pinababy69]

Suze, I'm trying to make myself numb to this rouge thing, lol.

It's roGUe, not roUGe people. Rouge is a colour, red...very angry. Rogue is the nasty type thing Suzecat referred to.

[lee_bumble]

i think you guys are missing my point. the aim of the thread was basically to try and help other people in the same situation as i WAS, as in pretence. as in post rogue casino anguish. there are alot of complaints on this forum surrounding virtual and cirrus and i would be more than willing to spend some of my time to try and help these guys and gals. this is not a altruistic act of kindness simply due to the satisfaction i would get if it helped at least 1 player get paid. ok? so please let some one speak who really has a problem and let me see if i can help ok. i don't want to here what you think about these groups but only what we as past consumers can do for the unfortunates WHO THINK there situation is hopeless. neither do i want to give false hope. just giving it another try instead of abandoning all sense of hope. that's all!