No more 3dice for me :)!!

[refre]

My BJ max is still $100. And I'm 99% sure Enzo didn't change any of my limits.
Winbig, if you were playing with a bonus (with WRs you didn't complete) in your last session, the sign on the BJ table will say $50 until your next deposit (or bonus without WRs).

And about changing limits for certain customers. I don't see anything wrong with that. There are high rollers out there who don't find playing $5 per spin very appealing. Eg. at ladbrokes you can play £10000 per game in BJ if you're a VIP. They don't want to do this for everyone, probably because it would be too risky. They want to know their customers first. And theres also the fact that casinos need a reserve (money in the bank ) for the games they're offering. They need to be able to pay out quickly and hassle free even to those super lucky players.
Its called running a responsible business.
Whenever you see a casino offering $100 slot spins (RTG) with $4000 max payout per week (40x max bet!!) you know they don't have the reserve they should have. They are relying on fresh deposits to pay out the following week(s). They should, however, have funds in a seperate reserve account to pay the lucky winner who hits 2000x bet on $100 spin! And if they can't do that, they should lower their limits!


Freddy

[winbig]

My BJ max is still $100. And I'm 99% sure Enzo didn't change any of my limits.
Winbig, if you were playing with a bonus (with WRs you didn't complete) in your last session, the sign on the BJ table will say $50 until your next deposit (or bonus without WRs).

I did have a bonus in play from a small tournament win, but when my balance hit $0, the WR were canceled and no longer show up in the cashier. I sort of doubt that it wouldn't update until my next deposit, but we'll see.

And about changing limits for certain customers. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Yes, and no. If they lower limits without telling somebody, then it's wrong. For instance, if bet sizes were increased/decreased at any casino without them telling me, I have an issue with it. In this day and age, it takes no time to send a blanket e-mail letting everyone know about what was changed and why. Casinos do this for promotions all the time, so why can't they do the same for a major change in betting limits?

It's bad practice to change something and let the players figure it out for themselves, and if they were to send everyone an email letting us know what was going on, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

There are high rollers out there who don't find playing $5 per spin very appealing. Eg. at ladbrokes you can play £10000 per game in BJ if you're a VIP. They don't want to do this for everyone, probably because it would be too risky. They want to know their customers first. And theres also the fact that casinos need a reserve (money in the bank ) for the games they're offering. They need to be able to pay out quickly and hassle free even to those super lucky players.
Its called running a responsible business.

True, but we're talking about $100 vs $50 here, not thousands at a time.

Whenever you see a casino offering $100 slot spins (RTG) with $4000 max payout per week (40x max bet!!) you know they don't have the reserve they should have. They are relying on fresh deposits to pay out the following week(s). They should, however, have funds in a seperate reserve account to pay the lucky winner who hits 2000x bet on $100 spin! And if they can't do that, they should lower their limits!

This is also true, but under-funding isn't always the case. IIRC, Nash had a similar experience semi-high-rolling at TIV, and they adjusted the max cashout per week/month for him. While still being somewhat low in comparison to deposits/bet sizes, it was still increased.

Freddy

All in all, 3Dice is still good in my book, simply for the fact that their customer service is among the best as far as online casinos go, and they payout quickly, even to USA residents. As with my last withdrawal, it only took 4 days to get a money order from them that I was able to cash immediately upon receipt. This is unheard of for Americans, in this day and age. I wish more casinos were like this.

You just have to be extremely lucky and have discipline to manage you bankroll to offset the losses in high variance games to be able to cashout.

[refre]

I did have a bonus in play from a small tournament win, but when my balance hit $0, the WR were canceled and no longer show up in the cashier. I sort of doubt that it wouldn't update until my next deposit, but we'll see.

Im quite sure you will see your limits go back to $100

Yes, and no. If they lower limits without telling somebody, then it's wrong. For instance, if bet sizes were increased/decreased at any casino without them telling me, I have an issue with it. In this day and age, it takes no time to send a blanket e-mail letting everyone know about what was changed and why. Casinos do this for promotions all the time, so why can't they do the same for a major change in betting limits?

It's bad practice to change something and let the players figure it out for themselves, and if they were to send everyone an email letting us know what was going on, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

As far as I know 3Dice don't change limits without telling the players.
Lmao, I hope your BJ limits go back to $100, or I may have to go dig myself a hole...

This is also true, but under-funding isn't always the case. IIRC, Nash had a similar experience semi-high-rolling at TIV, and they adjusted the max cashout per week/month for him. While still being somewhat low in comparison to deposits/bet sizes, it was still increased.

IMHO, any kind of max payouts is a sign the casino desn't have the proper funding. They should be prepared to pay quickly, and if they can't, they should lower their limits.


Freddy

[babs7262]

Supersuits changed from $9 max to $4.50 max and I figured it out instead of someone telling us too ref. I too love the fast payouts and customer service but If you cant win after 31 deposits in a row whats the point to the rest. If my money order was sent in 1 day rather than 4 Id still be where Im at.

[kimss]

winbig? Are you really playing blackjack at 3dice? Good grief...you are a glutton for punishment if you are..I played it quite a few times but it seems something is "off" on this game too..especially when you draw 6 23's in a row against the dealers 10 (I had 13 that many times IN A ROW mind you).

Then the dealer pulls 4 black jacks..and 3 - 21 's back to back...again I asked how many decks and I got no answer...ahhh well...good luck to you if you do play!

Anyone know how to get the players transaction play log there? I sure would love to post some of them tragic hand runs. Please excuse please, didn't mean to go off on a tangent (different direction that is).

I have an earlier thread on this, I had a streak that was incredible - and I really regret I didn't record it! (Camtasia studio anyone...). However I never got the player logs aswell, I asked for them atleast 10 times without any luck. For the record - I had an incredible loosing streak with crazy cards - and followed by the same one winning, then a loosing one so I lost. Doesn't matter really, since the BJs appearing in rows, and 21s was so incredible I will never believe this is even remotely possible in real life.

However, I remember how that thread ended - you got the same treatment in here.

[Pinababy69]

You just have to be extremely lucky and have discipline to manage you bankroll to offset the losses in high variance games to be able to cashout.

That is the most common sense post I've read in here.

As to changing table limits, as Same Old mentioned, I was pretty sure that MG can indeed change an individual's table limits, and Refre just confirmed what I was thinking. That is not isolated to 3Dice at all. Thanks Refre, you saved me having to check that fact.

[jod5413]

You just have to be extremely lucky and have discipline to manage you bankroll to offset the losses in high variance games to be able to cashout.

That is the most common sense post I've read in here.

What She Said!!!!

[RobWin]

You just have to be extremely lucky and have discipline to manage you bankroll to offset the losses in high variance games to be able to cashout.

I definitely agree with you about the part of having to be extremely lucky there...no doubt...

I've had some of that extremely lucky senario there about three times this year and it was spread out at about two and a half months apart...

[Kenny Lingus]

For the record - I had an incredible loosing streak with crazy cards - and followed by the same one winning, then a loosing one so I lost. Doesn't matter really, since the BJs appearing in rows, and 21s was so incredible I will never believe this is even remotely possible in real life.

If you think about it, even if the percentage of wins vs. losses are "normal", a casino game that has been manipulated to be streaky will bust far more players than average by eliminating their bankroll during a "down" streak.

Kmiss, you said "crazy cards", and that is a good way to put it. I played mostly 3 card and texas hold'em poker, not blackjack, and experienced the same thing.

I once had my straight flush lose to a higher straight flush in 3 card poker... The odds of two simultaneous straight flushes hitting on 3 card are less than 1 in 200,000. Did I mention that I lost the hand?

That was not the only "anomaly" I experienced in my 3 card poker game play at 3Dice. I would get dealt 8 hands in a row jack high or worse. The dealer would get 5 straights in 12 hands. Etc., etc., etc!!!! Way, way, way too many hand patterns of remote probability. I wont even talk about my wonderful (not) experiences while playing the texas hold'em game.

In my opinion, the cards at 3Dice are NOT RANDOM. Rather, they are "patterned" to yield a lot of streaky play, giving the house a better oportunity to break a player. Just like their high variance slots.

Can I prove this? Nope. But I closed my account, and I won't be back, not even for the free tourneys.

[winbig]

I have one last question for Enzo that's been brought up several times.

Why hasn't 3Dice submitted all of their gaming logs for the past year+ to be audited by an independent firm?

I think that in doing so, it will definitely put players minds at ease.