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KasinoKing (17th October 2008)
Hi,
A bit late coming back here!! Sorry, but last time I logged in on my phone, I saw I had a page or twos worth of posts to answer for and never got round to the hard work of thanking, quoting, arguing (etc)!
The main thing I want to say about my earlier posts is that, yes, I was talking about generalities in casino software, (thanks Pinababy69), I do not have an opinion at all on 3dice.
I probably should have started a new thread to say what I wanted to say. I was just reading this one and the same old "online casino games are rigged ...Listen to how I just got ripped" stuff came up and I was spurred to post. I know my posts were long, but I hope that anyone who did read them can see what they were in reply too.
I am sorry that I didn't make that clearer earlier - posting my thoughts on a thread about a specific casino was not a wise thing to do.
I am actually a bit embarrassed about listing some of my runs of luck (I have obviously had the bad too, I just didn't mention many of them). I also think that banging on about one-off occasions like these are meaningless, but I only did so as a direct response to a previous poster to me who talked of specific unlikely bad runs he'd had. ...Was just a bit of "balancing"That's all.
Regarding 3dice: I would not like to surmise on how fair they are at all. A selection of casino's have rigged software before and they'll do it again (I did point out a known rigged software group earlier). But my opinion, and the most important point, is that balancing and win cycles IS THE SAME THING as rigging. We should never accept that of course they're all programmed this way. Casinos that do this should be avoided at all costs. But as it is not something I can say I have personally experienced (despite incredible bad luck runs like the 2,000,000-to-1 shot I mentioned earlier).
...Therefore, I feel that rigging is not the norm accross all software. This was basically the point of my posts. The good, most popular casino software, that I use myself (Microgaming and Chartwell as the main two for me - though I play many others), I am certain give a fair and random representation of the games that they emulate. I don't like the opinion that it is usual that all software will rig hands in order to balance itself out and that all casinos should be painted with the same brush. Software like this is an unfortunate exception and I repeat, I would not like to surmise on 3dice's fairness. Although I would have probably raised an eyebrow if their rep PM'd me patting me on the back for sticking up for them and their high-variance games.
As I said, I should have started a new thread to talk about it.
Last edited by pubjoe; 3rd November 2008 at 02:17 PM.
Come on, that's a bit unfair. I don't wish to set myself apart from any gamblers. I myself am ashamed of some idiotic things I've done. I did point this out earlier when I admitted that I can chase like a lunatic. FFS, in the heat of the moment I whinge of being ripped off myself when the dealer repeatedly makes those creative 21s against me time after time. Actually, in the blind heat of the moment, I know I would disagree with everything I've been saying here. But this is a discussion, I'm not gambling at this moment, I am subjectively reflecting ...and can admit that with the bad comes the good (but usually less of it).
I don't think that saying gamblers can be bad losers is an unfair insult either. When I mentioned the thought process of gamblers, I was careful to state "we". None of us find it easy to admit that we did something stupid. We'd rather say that we were conned than that we'd knowingly made a bad bet.
Oops!Sorry.
Last edited by pubjoe; 3rd November 2008 at 02:44 PM.
One other thing. (Someone mentioned this earlier). I don't believe AT ALL that the masses presume that online casinos are fair. "Yuhh right, like I'd trust them with my credit card" is the response of pretty much most normal people with a healthy scepticism. Casino's don't profit from the public's trusting nature. Our scepticism is a hurdle that has taken many years and much cost for the online casinos to even slightly overcome. Don't presume that I'm being blind like a sheep to trust the casinos that I play.
It has taken me a lot of years and experience to overcome most of my suspicions.
There was a single incident that helped recently when I got a big royal flush win that changed a casino's advertised 4-play JoB payout %.
This answered a lot of questions about their transparency. It was my first deposit with them. It randomly hit. They investigated (normal practice for a win of the size). They paid. They truthfully amended the whole year's overall payout % for the game. (Going from about 96% to 99.9% ...In a cycled game, that just wouldn't happen).
It's the sort of thing that I had to experience first hand to truly trust them. I feel that I have been fortunate to gain that insight.
(StanJames by the way)
Last edited by pubjoe; 3rd November 2008 at 02:37 PM.
...And okay, okay, I derailed the thread. (The 3dice title was pointed out to me a couple of times).
...But after all that Betty Rubble and Wilma Flintstone stuff. I thought it was fair game!![]()
Hi All,
Firstly I want to say sorry for dragging this thread up again.
As you will see initially I closed the account for good due to some play I had with 3-dice.
I played BJ and lost over $1300-$1500 just on BJ over a course of a few days.
I honestly thought I wasnt getting a fair game so my mind started to wonder a bit and I said thinigs here that I shouldnt have without any solid proof.
It has now come to my attention that 3-dice recently had an Audit on there software and can confirm everything was above board as stated in the Audit.
So, this is the reason I have baught this thread up again. I need to retract the negative things I said.
I formally apologise to you 3-dice, Anna and Enzo for the negative posts I have made in relation to the fairness of your software, It was uncalled for especially when I didnt have any facts to go on but my own personal vendetta for the terrible black jack play I had.
I just think it is the right thing to do since Enzo got the Audit done and the facts are now known.
Once again 3-dice please accept my humble apologises for the negative threads I have posted.
Regards,
Same_Old
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Wow same_old....that is a super post for you to make. We could all learn something from someone not too big to apologize. Big kudos to you.![]()
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johnsteed (13th September 2009)
Hi Same_old,
My hat off to you. It takes a big person to make a post like that. We'll
let bye-gones be bye-gones and just call it a clean slate.
Ciao,
Enzo
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