Angel Casino - any knowledge about them ???

[poser]

Hi,

is there anyone who knows about this casino:

"Angel Casino" or "Ministering Angel Online Casino"

What soft do they run ?

Rogue ?

I never heard about them and now got mail...

THX

poser

[lots0]

New to me.

they say they are part of the 'Royal Flamingo Corp'.

Royal Flamingo Corp. is registered and licensed in Cyprus Nicosia and Republic of Panama. Has been a while in internet gambling business, internet marketing, programming software... So our players can be assured of high security and safety.

Suite 5, Milano Bldg.,Boulevard El Dorado
royalflamingocorp@gmail.com
Panama City,00000,Panama
XXhttp://www.ministeringangel.com
+381638081920

Contact e-mail:
office@ministeringangel.com

Source:www.ministeringangel.com/aboutus.php


This is their entire "Security Policy" as published on their site.

Your security as a Player is of the most importance to us. We are committed to protecting your privacy, and do not sell, trade or rent your personal information to others. Online security measures (like passwords and account numbers) are used when all transactions take place. In this way no one can gain access to your financial or personal details.

This looks like a BelleRock Entertainment site to me... So I would assume the software is MicroGaming, but I have not downloaded it to verify this.

[swampwitch]

The website itself is designed by a 20 year old...
http://www.krcky.com/
http://www.myspace.com/krcky

The casino itself sho' ain't Microgaming. It's software I have never seen before.
The multi-line slots are...interesting.
The VP is weird...The deuces VP isn't deuces wild, but pays for pairs of deuces.

There seems to be some question whether this Royal Flamingo is actually based in Serbia...not Panama.
http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_b...-logo-mystery/
The article itself isn't there anymore, but you can kind of get the gist from just the Google listing.

And http://www.royalflamingocorp.com/ is just a parked GoDaddy page.

[jinnia]

I decided to download and install to see what software was being used.

I didn't get far, for within 2 seconds of activating the exe file, my virus scanner popped up this::

<rec time="2008/07/12 15:56:24" user="jinnia" source="Virus">
<value>@HL_ReportFindRS</value>
<attr name="filename">C:\InetCasino\misc.wpd</attr>
<attr name="finding">@EID_Id_trj</attr>
<attr name="virusname">PSW.Legendmir.AHB</attr>
</rec>

Then my system began a very fast peep and locked up.


www(dot)ministeringangel(dot)com
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc. (first red flag)
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (www(dot)godaddy(dot)com)
Domain Name: MINISTERINGANGEL(dot)COM
Created on: 07-Aug-07
Expires on: 07-Aug-09
Last Updated on: 23-Jun-08

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration MINISTERINGANGEL(dot)COM@domainsbyproxy(dot)com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration MINISTERINGANGEL(dotCOM@domainsbyproxy(dot)com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HIGHSECURED.COM
NS2.HIGHSECURED.COM


Personally, I'd stay FAR away from this place!!!

[mysticjoz]

WTG Jinnia! Great info and research! Thanks for the heads up.

[aka23]

Originally Posted by lots0

This looks like a BelleRock Entertainment site to me... So I would assume the software is MicroGaming, but I have not downloaded it to verify this.

It's a unique proprietary software. The software seems incomplete and is not impressive. The user Mangel on my forum is a rep from this casino.

[flamingo]

Thanks aka23 for the small introduction

Here's an explanation.

We are not a part of any network, or a software provider.
We are a small group of enthusiasts that are making our own software, and as aka23 said, it is incomplete, but we are working constantly on it.
At the moment we have 23 games, mostly slots. We are working on few versions of Blackjack, roulette, craps .....
In next 2-3 weeks, we will change the lobby to a flash one, and add few new games.

We are also working on stand alone Bingo software, and a Poker room.
Also we are working on some new games never seen before.

Our idea is to make a complete software and then to sell licenses, but that will be ready in 6months-year.

We are a small honest operator, and already have a nice amount of returning players.


Any questions, i will be willing to answer,
Any suggestions willing to hear.

[funky_seagull]

Wouldn't it be better to wait until your software is complete before allowing people to place bets on it and risk losing their money.

Also wouldn't it be best to wait until an independant tester has verified your systems are safe and fair before it is released into the public... someone like ecogra...

or is the angel casino nothing to do with you and are using your software without your permission..?

I don't think releasing a gambling site that is incomplete and hasn't been rigorously tested for fairness is a good idea...

Can you not just start up a beta play for fun site which doesn't risk anyones money? And then get people to test your software and give you feedback, in exchange you could give them small monetary gifts for the feedback or some other incentive for testing your software.

I don't think any gambling software should be released and allowed to accept real money bets until it has been thoroughly tested.

[flamingo]

wow wow, I did not said it is not tested for fairines,
We have TST (Techincal system testing) Certification, and the payout odd's are done without the flow.
It's all been tested and is running perfectly.

What we need is more games, different kind of games, we also need good affiliate program, detailed stats ... so we can become a profesinal games provider for other online casino's that want to use our software.

But as a stand alone online casino, this casino is stabel and very good working. We will be making a lot of changes to it to make it eaven better and up to date.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by flamingo

wow wow, I did not said it is not tested for fairines,
We have TST (Techincal system testing) Certification, and the payout odd's are done without the flow.
It's all been tested and is running perfectly.

What we need is more games, different kind of games, we also need good affiliate program, detailed stats ... so we can become a profesinal games provider for other online casino's that want to use our software.

But as a stand alone online casino, this casino is stabel and very good working. We will be making a lot of changes to it to make it eaven better and up to date.

If you do not take more care, you will end up in the rogue pits of most reputable casino portals before you even have a chance to get going with the first fully working software version.

I was spammed into opening a new account at "Ministering Angel Casino", and to attempt to tie Religion into a casino site is probably a marketing move that will backfire in a big way.
Without ANY further investigation, I decided this was a rogue outfit based purely on the spam marketing and rogue sounding name.

Other stated facts are only going to add to this poor image. Despite taking real money bets, your corporate structure seems like a scammers paradise, with doubts as to where the casino is located, and indeed LICENCED (or is this a small detail not being considered at present). Suggestions the casino is in Panama, or even Serbia, do not look good, as neither are recognised juristictions for issuing online gambling licences. The overall company website itself seems to be nothing more that a parked page.
If current players end up suffering problems getting paid, and this gets out to the various forums, Angel Casino might as well forget about continuing in operation, even if by then they have well tested and stable software.

Joining here at Casinomeister though, is a positive thing. It provides someone to communicate with, and to reply to various allegations and statements, and indeed deal with player problems.