Angel Casino - any knowledge about them ???

[mysticjoz]

IMO..........Flamingo's transgressions were much too serious to be fixed by saying I'm sorry and all is forgiven.
Fraud, CC and logo theft for starters.
Theft of someone's else's content, Belle Rock's T&C's
Virus and trojan laden software. These are the things that we are sure of......and who the hell knows what else there might be that we don't know about?
Sorry wouldn't even begin to cover it and if there was some new venture it should be treated with nothing but disdain!

Let us not forget .. the winnings that you actually can't get!

[owned3bet]

mb has removed angel casino from their best gaming promotions: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/gamblingpromo.pl

[vinylweatherman]

mb has removed angel casino from their best gaming promotions: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/gamblingpromo.pl

That was unusually fast - something they found out must have scared them!

SO - why didn't they do this "due dilligence" before

[Casinomeister]

... SO - why didn't they do this "due dilligence" before

That's what I find so surprising. It took a few webmasters and players about fifteen minutes to figure out this was shady material.

[Simmo!]

That was unusually fast - something they found out must have scared them!

Probably just the number of people that contacted them

[GrandMaster]

The constitutional democratic republic of Panama, the most important financial center in Central America, has an impressive history of international banking and services jurisdiction. It has a fully regulated body of internet gaming laws of the highest standard, comparable to the gaming laws of the Isle of Man, which means that the Igaming entrepreneur can open a gambling website and continue to be on the right side of US law.

Other people describe Panama as a haven for money laundering.

[jargon]

mb has removed angel casino from their best gaming promotions: https://www.moneybookers.com/app/gamblingpromo.pl

Excellent WTG everyone! Next will be the removal process then some justice.

Flamingo once again please remove the site.

greek39

[vinylweatherman]

That's what I find so surprising. It took a few webmasters and players about fifteen minutes to figure out this was shady material.

Now Moneybookers need to worry about any of their customers who end up having their Moneybookers accounts "hacked" and emptied.

There have been a number of claims made here that players have had their eWallet accounts hacked and emptied. In every case, the eWallet provider has taken the position that the victim must have compromised their login information, and thus it was their fault.

Here, we have direct evidence that there is practically NO "due dilligence" of a merchant UNTIL concerns are brought to their attention, at which point they may act after an "investigation". Meanwhile, the "horse" can be seen running off into the sunset as they struggle with the stable door

This makes it quite likely that a considerable proportion of these victims did nothing more than trust their eWallet provider when it comes to them deciding which merchants are going to be allowed to accept deposits through their services. Given that Moneybookers were actually promoting Angel, there have to be a number of players who have deposited via Moneybookers before all this came to light.
If any of them are reading this, do NOT wait for Moneybookers, change any account details formerly used with Angel to prevent them using the information to make further debits from the account. The password should be the quickest and easiest thing to change, however this would not be enough (certainly would not be with Neteller). One (at least) of the security items typed in, or stored, with the merchant also needs to be changed. With Neteller, this would be the 6 digit security code. Changing the eWallet registered Email address should also be done, although this is the hardest, as you have to ensure they match with the ones registered at the legitimate casinos.
Neteller was also accepted by Angel, but there was no promotion as far as I could see.

It seems they are not going to remove their site, so they must think there is still value there despite the expose here.

We just have to hope this thread finds it's way into the Google top 10, and stays there.

[suzecat]

We just have to hope this thread finds it's way into the Google top 10, and stays there.

VWM, is there anything we can do (besides posting here) to make sure that happens?

[vinylweatherman]

VWM, is there anything we can do (besides posting here) to make sure that happens?

Yes,

Linking to it from other websites, such as other gambling fora.

Make certain that the other fora allow this though.

It is likely that this news is moving fast, and other gambling related portals are already discussing this. If any are found, they could be linked to from within this thread, and vice versa. This will make it much more difficult for the team behind Angel to do anything about it - they are said to be VERY good coders.