CASINOS TURN OFF SWITCH

[wayram]

I am totally convinced that the casinos have a turn off switch, a couple of examples...playing at a very reputable MG casino and had a good win on the weekender of 1600 and turned that into 2800, silly me thought that i wont pull it out i will play a little higher and maybe build it up, but no, OFF GOES THE SWITCH and no matter what denomination i played i got tiddly squat and blew the lot over a couple of days..Should have withdrew.. Same casino about a week later put in 100 and built it to 1000, smarter this time withdrew 500 and guess what, OFF GOES THE SWITCH, and over 2 nights blew the other 500 again getting NOTHING worth while on any game. My wife had a the same experience with another MG casino, withdrew 700 from 1300 and BANG, off went the switch and couldn't get anything on any game she played, It seems that IF you are lucky enough to get something , if you play on, the SWITCH goes off, and if you withdraw that is also a sin and the switch goes off. This seems to happen at all of the MG casinos that i play. Any one else had a similiar experience ?

[wayram]

I forgot to add that my wife and i will be doing it different from now on, If we are lucky enough to have a reasonable win we will withdraw the LOT. We will then not play at that casino for at least a week and play at another hoping that they turn the switch back on. At least it is worth a try...........

[Audioz]

That's very normal, because always after a big win, you'll get after that nearly nothing, but that's random

So if you get a bigger win, make directly a cashout, because i made the same error and believed, that i could get much more, but after that i always loosed back my money to the casino

[lauram]

I use to get up there and do the same keep playing thinking more will hit then nothing left to take out. So now i do my reg deposits depending on casino im a low roller though. So my deposits are between 20 and 50. If i double up or triple up i withdraw and move to next casino. Last week i couldnt do anything wrong i had withdraws all over the place in each casino i deposited. This week its like as you said cant hit a thing only few features i had paid close to nothing. Its like they just all go sour. I would prefer a casino that at least if you hit a feature gave you longer play time but its not fun when all you hit is dead spin after dead spin. So far past few days mg rtg rivals are all like on that off switch button.

[GGW Laurie]

i know how you feel and can understand where yout comming from but as someone said earlier its all random...........................laurie

[funky_seagull]

I don't know if there is an on/off switch. But recently I have been doing dire at mg casinos. Its not just the slots but the table games are dead. Winning nothing in 3card poker. The blackjack is awful. I am lucky if I can win 1 game in 5. All the mg games I play are ridiculously hard. I think maybe I have hit one of the worst losing streaks ever. The only thing which I can seem to do ok in is the live dealer baccarat, the live roulette is too expensive, and they dont offer live blackjack. In frustration I wonder if there is a dodgy scrougeRNG seed and you just have to wait patiently for the more genourous seed to be loaded into the program. But this is probably not true. I think in reality i had a winning streak but it has gone now and i have lost faith in my ability to win at casinos anymore. I thought maybe just play the free slot tournaments to feed the need but without the greed, but the free tournaments are not really free if you want to win, as it seems the only way you have any chance of winning them is if you buy the continues. And stupidly I did this and felt annoyed with myself, because it was a waste of money and I should know better. I am starting to feel it is time to quit gambling altogether. I don't seem to have the self control needed to succeed anymore which is scary and makes me wonder if I'm developing a problem. Best to quit now before i end up in serious debt.

I am uneasy with RNG's. I have been seriously skanked lately. I don't think anyone is cheating, but computers are too good to play against as opponents. it feels like maybe they have A.I. That learns about your style of play and adapts itself to it over time, but it is more likely that random number generators by their nature are impossible to beat. I tend to mainly play live games now as i do seem to do slightly better in them, but even in these the losses at times can be great and to be honest I wish I hadn't started gambling. I think maybe it is time to quit and do something better with my time and money. But this could be the ramblings of a paranoid lunatic who is a sore loser and should know better than to let a bloody machine kick my arse.

[james01]

I don't know if there's really anything untoward going on, but I'm kind of suspicious. I would totally drop a casino where all the games went dead on me after a good win.

[Jufo]

Suppose you deposit 100$ to the casino and play the lowest house-edge game such as Classic blackjack and manage to turn that $100 into $1000 with 1 in 10 chance. The question is: Do you still have the same 1 in 10 chance of turning that already won $1000 into $10000 or does some mechanism (switch) activate in order for the casino to not lose too much?

The thing is that random games don't have memory. It shouldn't matter how much you have won in the past, you still have the exactly same chances of winning as when you started.

It would be nice to see some data of these cases where the odds have supposedly turned against the player. Enough data would show whether the odds were true or manipulated by the software.

[funky_seagull]

Here is one session from last night I will copy and paste for you.


This is my last session on double exposure blackjack. I was using a martingale, which is admittedly not a good system to use. But I decided to try it out of desperation due to failing miserable using flat betting and the double up if you win strategy, it doesn't seem to matter what system you use eventually the tables get turned on you and you hit a cold patch of constant losses.

As you can see it started off quite well, with me winning, and then suddenly tails off into disaster with me losing 9 games in a row and my entire bankroll.

7596 View 7/6/2008 2:13:48 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7597 View 7/6/2008 2:14:22 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7598 View 7/6/2008 2:14:35 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7599 View 7/6/2008 2:14:52 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7600 View 7/6/2008 2:15:09 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7601 View 7/6/2008 2:15:22 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $0.00
7602 View 7/6/2008 2:16:14 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $8.00 $16.00
7603 View 7/6/2008 2:16:28 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7604 View 7/6/2008 2:16:40 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $0.00
7605 View 7/6/2008 2:16:55 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $4.00 $8.00
7606 View 7/6/2008 2:17:14 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $2.00
7607 View 7/6/2008 2:17:29 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $2.00
7608 View 7/6/2008 2:18:17 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7609 View 7/6/2008 2:18:27 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7610 View 7/6/2008 2:18:41 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $2.00
7611 View 7/6/2008 2:18:54 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $2.00
7612 View 7/6/2008 2:19:06 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7613 View 7/6/2008 2:19:17 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7614 View 7/6/2008 2:19:27 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7615 View 7/6/2008 2:19:49 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7616 View 7/6/2008 2:19:59 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7617 View 7/6/2008 2:20:15 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7618 View 7/6/2008 2:20:21 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $4.00
7619 View 7/6/2008 2:20:42 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
7620 View 7/6/2008 2:20:53 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $0.00
7621 View 7/6/2008 2:21:06 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $0.00
7622 View 7/6/2008 2:21:30 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $4.00 $0.00
7623 View 7/6/2008 2:21:44 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $8.00 $0.00
7624 View 7/6/2008 2:22:29 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $10.00 $0.00
7625 View 7/6/2008 2:22:53 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $20.00 $0.00
7626 View 7/6/2008 2:23:10 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $25.00 $0.00
7627 View 7/6/2008 2:23:25 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $10.00 $0.00

The hands dealt to me in the final 9, follow.

7619 View 7/6/2008 2:20:42 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $1.00 $0.00
Dealer - - 19
Player hand - 12 (hit) 24 lose

7620 View 7/6/2008 2:20:53 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $0.00

Dealer 19
Player hand - 19 (lose) (in double exposure blackjack you lose if your hand ties with the dealers.)

7621 View 7/6/2008 2:21:06 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $2.00 $0.00

Dealer - 19
Player hand - 13 (hit) get 17 (hit again) get 27

Dealer hand 13 - dealer hits gets a 6- makes total of 19
Player hand - 8 I hit get 18


7623 View 7/6/2008 2:21:44 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $8.00 $0.00

dealer has 19

player has 19 (loss as push is a loss in double exposure.)

7624 View 7/6/2008 2:22:29 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $10.00 $0.00

Dealer has 20

player has 16 - player hits goes bust with 23


7625 View 7/6/2008 2:22:53 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $20.00 $0.00

dealer has 20

player has 13 - player hits gets ace, hits again gets another ace, hits again gets 2, hits again gets another 2, hits a fifth time gets queen and goes bust with 29


7626 View 7/6/2008 2:23:10 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $25.00 $0.00

dealer has 20

player has 19 - player hits goes bust with 22


7627 View 7/6/2008 2:23:25 AM Double Exposure Blackjack $10.00 $0.00

dealer has 19

player has 11 - player hits gets 7 - player hits again goes bust with 28

Remember in double exposure the dealer doesn't have a hidden card, so players make their decision to hit or stand already knowing what cards the dealer has.


However please don't get me wrong. I am not accusing anyone of cheating, and hate to sound like a whining loser, I am posting this as an example of how gambling can catch you out and why you should quit while your ahead, and why you should never never use martingale betting systems.

Will copy and paste more games if you're interested, it is I guess simply the house edge coming into effect.

I don't want to bore you with too many figures and stats as it is a chore to read through them, but will post more if your interested. But surely you need to see play history from many different people to build an accurate picture of fairness.

The microgaming system has been certified as fair by independant auditors, unless they bribe them of course (just kidding)

I think maybe people should be careful about spending too long playing the games though, any games - and should cash out when they've made 20 - 30% profit. I wish I could do this, I havn't enough self-discipline to know when to stop and that is why I fail.

But I have to ask myself, why would someone who is cheating be willing to supply you with your game history? Wouldn't they try to hide this from you, so you couldn't just go and copy and paste it like I just did? I think maybe it was extreme bad luck. Or mathematically speaking shows that random number generators cannot be beaten.

[Jufo]

The thing is that such play data doesn't show anything unusual in itself. Your session ended with losing 9 times in a row and that will happen sooner or later. I estimate 1 in 100 chance of losing 9 hands in a row. This means that it will happen to you on average every 100-200 hands you play. And did you stand on couple of hands when you both had 19? You should hit and hope for Ace or Deuce.

To really show something, you would need to have, say, 10 sessions in a row where this same thing happens to you every time. Only then it might show that there is something off. It is difficult to show bias in these kind of situations, as it would require large number of playing sessions and probably thousands of hands played. And it's not possible to just gather losing sessions from different players because then you would select data by ignoring winning sessions, and this would make the whole thing invalid.

But I have to ask myself, why would someone who is cheating be willing to supply you with your game history? Wouldn't they try to hide this from you, so you couldn't just go and copy and paste it like I just did? I think maybe it was extreme bad luck. Or mathematically speaking shows that random number generators cannot be beaten.

Actually I have had difficulties in receiving my play history in some cases where I have had statistically extremely unlikely results.