Wagerworks Update?

[paul02085]

WTF cares about IGT games. BIG DAMNED DEAL. For years i dreamed about being able to play 5 times pay, double diamond, double red/white/blue etc on the internet for money. Guess what, Rival slots kick ass on IGT. Who needs them. IGT better hope rival doesnt decide to get into the B&M casino business. If they do I bet IGT will all of a sudden decide ANYBODY on the internet can play their precious games. Screw u IGT.

[SlotKing]

Don't quote me on this, but since a) most of the WW casinos are licensed in Alderney, and b) a clause in the WW contract with the operator BOTH prevent US players from playing the games in real, WW (and possibly Alderney) may be telling them to pull the plug from free play as well....

I hypothesize 2 reasons:

1. People are getting bored with the same old MG, RTG and others who seem to introduce clone afer clone time after time and people want to play the games they are familiar with in a true B&M casino, so WW/IGT is saying "OK... you wanna play these games? Then go to a B&M!"

2. Alderney sees that since the UIGEA is supposed to combat all forms of wagering, they may see it is actual money play (even though it actually isn't - it falls within the bounds of free play as specified by the UIGEA), and they tell the ops to pull the plug. I see them getting a huge backlash with this one if it happens to be the case.


Who knows? Maybe they just want to tell Americans there are better places to play? Any casino that excludes one group from another is essentially telling them "We don't want your business because we're scared of what could happen to our profits." Sorry if that's a lil' ruthless, but IMHO it's the truth.

And BTW - I can still play for free at GamesXtra.

[Simmo!]

Anyone from the USA: can you access the freeplay games at http://www.onlinecasinosvegas.com ? If so, then it's not a Wagerworks block in force, it's the casino.

[paul02085]

I am playing there now (just cause Simmo asked).

[dendrite]

Maybe it's just those casinos that are listed on the stock exchange (blue square is owned by Rank Group plc) that have to be ultra-cautious and so do not offer any slots to US players, even if they are free?

I don't think Virgin Games are listed on the stock exchange, so if my guess is right, then they should stay good for US players

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by paul02085

I am playing there now (just cause Simmo asked).

Assuming you're US then Paul, it must be a Virgin policy to block US players on the website itself, as that site calls the branded games direct from the WW server.

[brianzz]

getminted are also blocking us players
The online casinos vegas or whatever is using back door links to Virgin free play servers.

I'm sure eventually all of them will be shut off to US IP's but there's ways around that too using proxys

[dendrite]

Cashcade own Getminted and run several white labels (including to public companies) - they have to worry about the consequences of providing to companies that are listed on the stock exchange.

"Cashcade operates via its two business streams: as a promoter of its own direct-to-customer business with highly successful sites such as Foxybingo.com and Getminted.com; and as a ‘white label’ provider to companies such as Trinity Mirror Group, Emap, Associated News and Scottish Media Group."

As far as I know, Virgin Gaming don't have public shareholders to answer to, so can get away with having associations between gambling and the US market (even if it that association is only with free play games).

I guess that Virgin could always change their minds and block US players too, so make the most of it whilst you can!

[brianzz]

Found this reply from BlueSquare support on another forum.. this is laughable

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your e-mail,

I can confirm that as of 1st July 2008, we will no longer be able to accept fun players from the United States and Canada. This is due to a switch in software systems, which no longer allows us to differentiate between real and fun players. As I'm sure you are aware we are unable to accept real money players from the United States.

Thank you for your interest in Blue Square, I hope you are able to find a suitable company to meet your online gaming needs,

Customer Service Team

They're in trouble if the servers can't tell real from fun wagers.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by brianzz

Found this reply from BlueSquare support on another forum.. this is laughable





They're in trouble if the servers can't tell real from fun wagers.

LOL

Can see why. They have put geo-targetting in on the website itself before players even load up the games from the WW servers. There is some logic in that as they can only control the code on their own domain and can't interfere with the actual games software itself.

As an aside, just playing for free and got a pretty one on Wolf Run thought I'd share: