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Never seen this in 5 years of online gambling.

583 spins at 2$ a bet on Achilles slot without triggering a bonus feature.

I will stay away definitevely from this crap.

I don't give a shit losing a few bucks but I'd prefer giving my money to the homeless instead of wasting it in a rogue operator.
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I don't want to call them rogue or anything else, but i've experienced also, that after there was fallung some Random Jackpots within a short time, their payout was always very low!

I've made a deposit with $50 and played only with 20 cent bets but doesn't hit anything and the free spins come only as i was dwon to $ 1,60 but it pays nearly nothing (only 53 cent!)

Certainly you can call it only pain, but it's always, when some higher RJs were fallen, like now, because there were very much RJs hit in the last few days (Enchanted Garden nearly $ 6,000, Hillibillies about $5,000, Outta This World about $ 6,000, Cleopatra's Gold about $11,000) and this happens all in the last 1 week, so maybe this is the reason, why we couldn't win there anything now, or it's really only a very bad pain for us all?
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rogued is a little harsh imo.i have won and i have lost at alot of casinos but imo inetbet still ranks among the top rtg casinos out there.it makes one feel crappy when they go so long without a feature but i dont think its just with inetbet alone, you just have had some bad luck, had you had won, the thread would have a different title, wouldnt it? i wish you luck on finding the perfect online casino.....................laurie
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...I don't give a shit losing a few bucks but I'd prefer giving my money to the homeless instead of wasting it in a rogue operator.
You're implying that the operator can switch on or off the win switch. Sorry, that's not the case. It's a bit unfair to point at iNetBet because you didn't hit a bonus round.
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"Achilles" is medium/high variance so while 600 spins without a bonus is more than possible, it's typical of this type of slot. RTG's "Real Series" slots percentage settings take one of 3 forms. Based on memory, these are 97%, 95% and 93% set globally across all slots at a casino. BUT...bear in mind they all have progressive jackpots which will not only reduce the actual expected return in normal play, but will increase the variance - by how much on either I couldn't tell you. If you want regular bonus rounds, then go "low variance" with something like "Derby Dollars". And avoid "Rain Dance"

RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!).

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If you want regular bonus rounds, then go "low variance" with something like "Derby Dollars"
That's not really true, because even this slot pays out nothinh at the moment

As i've mentioned before "I've made a deposit with $50 and played only with 20 cent bets but doesn't hit anything and the free spins come only as i was dwon to $ 1,60 but it pays nearly nothing (only 53 cent!)"

This happens exactly on "Derby Dollars" although i've never experienced such a bad strake on this slot before!
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I've never played there, but want to. I just don't want a big document hassle if I want to cash out. Heard many good things about them here, but does anyone know specifically what I would have to send them to cashout? Also, do they take the visa netspend card??
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does anyone know specifically what I would have to send them to cashout?
It's all written on their side!

Copy of your passport, utility bill and the hand signed faxbackform with your accountname and/or Neteller/Moneybookers/Credit Card Number/Name
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I don't have a passport, not giving them a credit card #, do I have any chance of being paid?? Also, do they take netspend for deposits?? I'm not into the hoop jumping with the document game, that is what has kept me away so far from them. Now if they want my name and address to send the check, I don't mind that at all. We've all gone over the document thing so many times that I don't even want to get started! My ID and creditcards in no way ensure that I am who they think I am. If I go to the trouble to sign up and give my personal details on registration, that should suffice. There is no creditcard protection, only mutual trust or distrust. i.e., casino can tell you to f*** off, we're not paying, player can charge back and there is nothing the casino can do about it. Detente.
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I don't have a passport, not giving them a credit card #, do I have any chance of being paid??
I haven't said, that you MUST send them your credit card details, this is only an option, because it depends on which deposit method you'll use!

So if you make a deposit with credit card, you must write certainly this details on your faxback form and sign it with your hand, so they know, that you're really the person, which made this deposit

The same happen, if you make a moneybookers deposit, then you must write your moneybookers emailaddress on the faxbackform and sign it.

But you must only do this one time, so you must not send them for every deposit method one faxbackform, because the first one is certainly enough.

you have no passport? i've never heard this before, that someone didn't have any passport, because every human should/must have one, or not?
you can also send them a drivers licence copy or your identity card, this should also be enough

if you don't want to do this, then it's your own pain, because on every casino normally you must do this, otherwise you won't get your money/withdrawals!

I know only on Bodog, that you have not to send any documents to them, because i played there now about 2 years and made withdrawals also about $2,000 but were never asked about anything from them
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