RTG Slots Percentages

[paul02085]

"RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!)."

If this is true i am sure it is only if they want to raise the payout %, not lower it. Its laughable to think that Michael Staw would require justification to lower payout %'s with his past actions "running" RTG.

[lauram]

I deposit daily so at best on one day i have at least 3 4 casinos with money in them. rtg mg rival and 3dice, now with saying that ive never seen bonus rounds or free spins in a lot of dif slots. Rtg aladdin for one. mg geesh dont even know where to start with that group have at least 20 never hit spins or a bonus round. Rival my first time for scary was this week for free spins never once seen a bonus or more then a 20 cent pay out to me in dogpound or that new islot3, 3dice ive hit them all some nice ones some so so ones. But i feel the same a lot of times when you hit nothing after nothing, starts to make you wonder if they have a way to tighten the slots up to play for last months jackpot hits.

[lauriejim]

boy oh boy ,run to the store for a few things, come back and find two of your forum friends banned, i really didnt see anything wrong imo with what they posted, but ill keep quite, dont want to see my name in redsimmo does know best.........................laurie

[bb28]

Well.....well, well, my DSL was out for about 16 hours and I'm catching up and I see a couple of people got banned. I'm a little confused as to what for however. Seems pretty minor considering a while back in another thread pacers pretty much told me to f myself and I don't think he even got his hand slapped for that.

I know you not obligated to tell us Simmo, but why not enlighten us as to what the ban is for?????

[chuchu59]

Originally Posted by paul02085

"RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!)."

If this is true i am sure it is only if they want to raise the payout %, not lower it. Its laughable to think that Michael Staw would require justification to lower payout %'s with his past actions "running" RTG.

I recall Inet stating their payout % is set at 95% although I am amused as to how I cannot reach even 50% of their WRs consistently for the Tuesday coupon at CM and low rolling at 0.20 per spin As for RTG itself, I dont trust them much especially since they distance themself from player issues, control % settings and if Inet is to be believed wont even supply me with the House Way for setting Paigow Poker (implying something to hide or incompetent?).

In another thread, I said I was not pleased with the outcomes of Baccarat games at Inet. I have played a total 122 hands, winning 50 (I always bet on Banker), losing 62 and tying 10 times. Payout is slightly less than 80%. The sample size is small but tilted heavily in favor of the casino but I dont have enough funds to try out a large samle. Given RTG's ability to set % in slots, I am inclined to believe they might be able to set the % in table games as well.

As for Inetbet, I am disappointed at their indifferent attitude whenever some concerns or complaints are raised especially in the last year or so. If you have adverse comments on them in this forum, they are unhappy about it and tell you it shouldnt say these things in public. If you write to them, their replies just make you sick. Frankly, other than paying out promptly, they are simply at the bottom of the league when it comes to customer service so why bother with this casino. I hope Rushmore accepts MB soon so that couple with Club World, I can have at least 2 casinos to patronize.

[suzecat]

Originally Posted by lauriejim

boy oh boy ,run to the store for a few things, come back and find two of your forum friends banned, i really didnt see anything wrong imo with what they posted, but ill keep quite, dont want to see my name in redsimmo does know best.........................laurie

Originally Posted by bb28

Well.....well, well, my DSL was out for about 16 hours and I'm catching up and I see a couple of people got banned. I'm a little confused as to what for however. Seems pretty minor considering a while back in another thread pacers pretty much told me to f myself and I don't think he even got his hand slapped for that.

I know you not obligated to tell us Simmo, but why not enlighten us as to what the ban is for?????

I think they were given a couple days to chill (before they went nuts)

[happygobrokey]

yes you have to print a piece of paper from their site, fill in the details pertaining to the deposit method, and sign to verify, then scan it back to them. plus a photo id, and card image if applicable. i never had to do a pencil/carbon imprint of the raised card digits though lmao that's a little uber-anal since you can buy tons of stuff online by just typing the numbers, no image, no imprint. inet is probably the most documentation because of this extra special deposit verification form thing, but as with every it's a one-off. glad when i was hunting random bonuses irregard to casino quality that i was using neteller or moneybookers, but i'm sure a couple less than airtight trustworthy joints have images of my vital identification documents, blighters.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by lauriejim

i really didnt see anything wrong imo with what they posted, but ill keep quite, dont want to see my name in redsimmo does know best.........................laurie

Originally Posted by bb28

I know you not obligated to tell us Simmo, but why not enlighten us as to what the ban is for?????

Trust me when I say it got pretty nasty to the point where it could quite clearly be deemed racist. Aside from which it was derailing the thread.

Originally Posted by suzecat

I think they were given a couple days to chill (before they went nuts)

Spot on

[Zoozie]

Originally Posted by RedKaos

583 spins at 2$ a bet on Achilles slot without triggering a bonus feature.

This is not that unusual and somehow slots are good at giving this delusion, which is also why players keep playing them. Never wondering why 99.9% of slot players feels unlucky overall? The are not unlucky, they are just experiencing what slots are designed to do.

It make matters worse that you play RTG slots since they have payout% a lot
lower than many other software providers. Even on high settings (INetBet etc.) I believe they are set to 94-95%, which is still 2% less than most MG/Wagerworks/3Dice/Rival.

There is 1% chance of going 650 spins or more without hitting the feature on a slot with normal parameters. Here is an old post plotting the probabilities of not hitting the feature in a certain range of spins. Personally I have done 800+ spin several times without feature. Accept and understand the consequences of slot or stop playing then and whining on board. This forum does not need more slot whiners.

Still remember even WHEN you hit the feature, it only pays around 30*bet size in average.

Link to plot:
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post157553

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by lauriejim

boy oh boy ,run to the store for a few things, come back and find two of your forum friends banned, i really didnt see anything wrong imo with what they posted, but ill keep quite, dont want to see my name in redsimmo does know best.........................laurie

Originally Posted by bb28

Well.....well, well, my DSL was out for about 16 hours and I'm catching up and I see a couple of people got banned. I'm a little confused as to what for however. Seems pretty minor considering a while back in another thread pacers pretty much told me to f myself and I don't think he even got his hand slapped for that.

I know you not obligated to tell us Simmo, but why not enlighten us as to what the ban is for?????

The argument escalated to an embarrassing exchange of Nazi references and "shut your mother f***king mouth" sort of thing. Simmo! was spot on with removing the posts and handing out two days in the pokey.

Side note: if any member here is offended by a post or feels that they are being verbally harassed, please use the "report a post" function. Some of you do, thanks - but the moderators and I can only respond to things we are aware of. I was busy watching France lose to Italy when this occurred