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(This was supposed to go to the rushmore experiences thread, sorry)........

Deposited trough click2pay to rushmore. Got lucky and won about 400$ on my 4th-5th deposit. Was planning to withdraw, but to my surprise they do not allow withdrawals trough click2pay, nor trough wire transfer. Only option to withdraw is trough a bank draft, which to me an european player seems like were back to the stone age. Not even wire for europeans players like me.
Its a great casino, and a trustworthy because well. Its casinomeister member for one. But they definately should get their act together concerning withdrawals.
Neteller and Moneybookers would be a nice surprise for deposits and withdrawals too.

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Neteller and Moneybookers would be a nice surprise for deposits and withdrawals too.
That's certainly true, but why haven't you post this in the other thread, because you even know him.

Now we have again a new Rushmore thread and this is not really very help-/sinful.
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anyway whatever cashout option they have.(just 2)...they will try to hold on it and try to delay your withdrawal in any possible manner.
They do give you playing time untill the wagering are met.....as soon you have met em....forget about it.
I did and had a cashout for 500 ....all the possible delays where there.
and Gabriel the "nice guy"....forget about him.....
I lost 500 at a 20/40 cents bet with a 400/800 spins withouth feature 3 or 4 times in a row and when I got it was ZIPPO.
I m clsosing my account....and I think...just my opinion...be careful.
I know there will always be someone telling you .....no they are the best and all the s***t ....Ive played tens of thousands spin and Im sure of what I know.....
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I lost 500 at a 20/40 cents bet with a 400/800 spins withouth feature 3 or 4 times in a row and when I got it was ZIPPO.
Sorry, but i can't believe this, because even on RTGs, which have a very bad payout, you got many features, when you play with 20 cent bets with $500, so it can't be, that you hit even not one feature and btw. if you play with 20 cent bets, how can it be, that you've lost $500 within 400 spins? *lol*



400x $0,20 = $80, so even if you really get never any little win, what is also impossible, you could have only lost $80 and certainly not $500, or am i wrong?
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(This was supposed to go to the rushmore experiences thread, sorry)........

Deposited trough click2pay to rushmore. Got lucky and won about 400$ on my 4th-5th deposit. Was planning to withdraw, but to my surprise they do not allow withdrawals trough click2pay, nor trough wire transfer. Only option to withdraw is trough a bank draft, which to me an european player seems like were back to the stone age. Not even wire for europeans players like me.
Its a great casino, and a trustworthy because well. Its casinomeister member for one. But they definately should get their act together concerning withdrawals.
Neteller and Moneybookers would be a nice surprise for deposits and withdrawals too.

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This is no good, if they can accept deposits from Click2Pay they should have no problem paying that way. It seems they are determined to make it as hard as possible to make withdrawals, even harder, it seems, than it is to deposit.

This "stone age" casino is off my list for now, as ease of deposit is important, but ease of withdrawal more so.

If thy only do cheques, I would need to know how long it takes, and what the charges might be. I would also have problems if the cheques were in US Dollars, as this would make them very expensive to process at my end.

Cheques cut and posted in the UK, and made out in UK Pounds would only be a small inconvenience, as they generally arrive in 3 working days, and clear through my bank in another 3 working days, and if they are in UK Pounds, I don't get charged for banking the cheque.

Strangely, this policy seems to leave them open to money laundering, since most casinos INSIST that depositing by Click2Pay REQUIRES them to pay at least the amount of that deposit BACK to Click2Pay, and blame not themselves, but "outside regulations" for this stance. Funny how these alleged "outside regulations" do not seem to apply to Rushmore, who can take money from Click2Pay, and pay by cheque. Good for US players with money trapped in Click2Pay because of the $1500 min withdrawal limit, easy, put it in Rushmore, play it a bit, and withdraw it, and you get the check Click2Pay refuse to send you Technically, this is indeed "money laundering", in the sense that you are using a procedure to circumvent the Click2Pay rules preventing them sending under $1500.

Since Rushmore are not required to return Click2Pay deposits back to Click2Pay, it follows that this alleged regulation does not actually exist as an EXTERNAL one, but is purely the choice of the casinos who insidt on it, and they quote "external" as a means of passing the buck to deflect complaints from players who find this rule inconvenient.

This might also suggest that Rushmore will be more heavily reliant on requesting documents from players, and other ID checks, as they do not return deposits to source, and are thus more vulnerable to chargebacks after having issued a cheque to a player if that player turns out to be a scammer.
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Okay, I'm starting to get a little worried...

My $2,000 withdrawal was approved on May 4. When I spoke to a Rushmore rep, they said that it would reach my bank account, via wire transfer, within 10 days. I'm on day 11 and still nothing. Gabriel, can you help? Will I actually be seeing my money like the rep said I would? Or is this a casino that I should stop playing at? Keep in mind that all my documents have been faxed over.
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Sorry, but i can't believe this, because even on RTGs, which have a very bad payout, you got many features, when you play with 20 cent bets with $500, so it can't be, that you hit even not one feature and btw. if you play with 20 cent bets, how can it be, that you've lost $500 within 400 spins? *lol*



400x $0,20 = $80, so even if you really get never any little win, what is also impossible, you could have only lost $80 and certainly not $500, or am i wrong?


You should probably re read my post before trying to be sarcastic.
I said 400/800 spins "between features", which means you cant win.
My English, like yours, its not the best and Im aware of it.....in mathematic
tho Im quite strong.
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You should probably re read my post before trying to be sarcastic.
Sorry, but i wouldn't to be sarcastic, maybe you've misunderstood me, because my mother language is german and not english.

But i'll not post again in this thread, because probably i will be again misunderstooden
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