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Old 15th May 2008, 02:55 PM
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Sorry, but i wouldn't to be sarcastic, maybe you've misunderstood me, because my mother language is german and not english.

But i'll not post again in this thread, because probably i will be again misunderstooden

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Just spoke to another Rushmore rep. It IS in fact working days they go by, and I should be expected my payout tomorrow or Monday. They said it's still on schedule. A bit of a relief for me.
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I already apologized for making another thread. Like i said this post was supposed to go to the rushmore experiences thread. So if someone can merge this, would be most welcome.
When i asked about click2pay support said that they have made a deal with click2pay that does not allow them to send money to customers.

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I already apologized for making another thread. Like i said this post was supposed to go to the rushmore experiences thread. So if someone can merge this, would be most welcome.
When i asked about click2pay support said that they have made a deal with click2pay that does not allow them to send money to customers.
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So, those casinos that claim that they are REQUIRED to pay back to Click2Pay if the deposit came from them are talking bollox, or Click2Pay would have REQUIRED Rushmore to do the same, rather than REQUIRING that they don't.
Looks like the launder is on for all those US members who have less than $1500 stuck there, and find all casinos INSIST that any withdrawal resulting from a Click2Pay deposit must go back to Click2Pay - an issue that has been raised my US players who thought they could get around the $1500 rule by depositing, playing a bit, and requesting withdrawal by check, and getting nowhere - now you can, thanks to Rushmore and this deal that seems counter to all these supposed rules and regulations we are forced to suffer at the hands of casinos who in turn claim they have to impose such rules because of these international money laundering regulations.

Perhaps these regulators might be interested in this "deal" that would permit the "in through Click2Pay, out by check" system at Rushmore? Click2Pay can be set to automatically debit from a credit card, and this is what is the real loophole when it comes to rogue players. They will use a credit card through Click2Pay, withdraw by check, and then issue a chargeback on the card. This will result in the money being reclaimed from Click2Pay, who ordinarily insist that withdrawals go back to them if they have transacted the deposit, hence this dodge would not normally work. Now, Click2Pay will have to take the hit, and then recover the money from Rushmore, who then have to recover it from the player. This is a good deal harder, as more parties are involved, and the trail more convoluted, and it is likely that a rogue player could run with the money before recovery could take place.

This deal is stupid, so why on earth did Click2Pay agree to it, or insist on it as it appears. I no longer believe casinos and processors are as concerned about money laundering as they claim they are, they have more self serving reasons for quoting all these regulations as explanations for their often perverse and inconvenient rules. Clearly, in this case, something is of more value profit wise for this partnership to justify taking this extra risk, even though it is even MORE inconvenient for players than even some of the perverse rules we have to deal with already.

In the case of Rushmore, it is not the limited deposit methods that are the main issue any more, but the even more severely limited WITHDRAWAL methods. When I saw that a couple of eWallets were supported, even though Neteller was not, I assumed all that I would need to do was sign up with one of them, fund it, and I could then easily deposit and withdraw. It now seems that I was wrong, and that withdrawal is far more complicated than this.
I even considered re-using my old Click2Pay account, even though they got one over on me with inventing unnecessary currency exchanges, but it seems this would have been no good anyway.
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I got paid!!!

The $2000 withdrawal that was approved May 4 reached my checking account today, after 10 business days. A bit slow, yes, but I can wholeheartedly say that Rushmore is reputable and THEY WILL PAY!!!!

This is great news to me. THANKS RUSHMORE!!!!
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Almost 2 weeks later ......I received an e-mail from Gabriel asking me if I was satisfied with the outcome of his 'Intervention'
Oh yes....I uninstalled the casino, wasnt paid and Im no longer playing at Rushmore.
I couldnt be any happyer.

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I didnt get paid cause they gave me a waiting time of an additional 48 hours each time I reversed the pending withdraw,this went on for almost a week, and I was told that flushin was not an available option.....
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You can't flush your withdrawal at any RTG casino, so if you don't like this, you should'nt play on any RTG casino in the future
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if you can deposit that way, you should have be able to withdraw that way as well....sometimes cross withdraw is not possbile and i understant that, it's because money fraud actions... by cross withdraw i mean if you deposit for example with moneybookers and want to withdraw with wire..

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You can't flush your withdrawal at any RTG casino, so if you don't like this, you should'nt play on any RTG casino in the future
not completely true...you can at club world and you dont need it at Inetbet cause they pay you before you even have the time to ask for it.
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not completely true...you can at club world and you dont need it at Inetbet cause they pay you before you ask for it.
club world is not an option for me, because their payout% are horrible!

iNetBet takes also 6-24 hours, so they're not the fastest one.

only on bodog you get your money within 15 minutes up to 2 hours.
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