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Old 10th July 2008, 07:59 AM
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I have to agree with Rusty because based on some data/results from my play, their payout appears to be under 30%. This is totally unacceptable, but maybe they did look at their games and made some adjustments. I don't know if it's worth the chance of going back there because I feel like I should just throw my money out the window as it yields the same results.
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I have lost every deposit except one at this place - each deposit ranged from $300 - 500 and made about 8 of them. Closed account but before I did, asked them for results of last nights play. Here's a sample of payout percentages from some of their rigged slot games:

Achilles - 45%
Aztec Treasure - 81%
Ceasar's Empire 43%
Cleopatra's Gold 59%
Crystal Waters 80%
Funky Monkey 27%
Paradise Dreams 48%
Lions Lair 60%
Realm of Riches 16%
Jackpot Pinatas 48%

Some of the better ones-
Paris Beauty 171%
Penguin Power 124%
Triple Toucon 131%
Sherlock Holmes 142%

Ten of Fourteen slots (71%) pay 80% or less. Overall about 86% - very scarce bonus rounds and real possibility of losing your money every time.
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Today, I received a snailmail CD and free chip from this lot. Seems they accept Neteller too, and do seem to pay if you have the good fortune to win.

I recall that the same allegation has been made against Club World and iNetbet, but I pretty much took Club World to the cleaners on their slots a while back with $5 bets, so maybe it is a matter of variance. RTG casino can alter the way their slots play, but I don't think they can set them below 80% at worst, and more likely 90% would be the minimum. To get a feel for how "tight" they are, check the paytables on some of the well known games, such as 3 card poker, and Jacks or Better video poker, and see how this compares with the Microgaming equivalent, which are "full pay" for these two games. Check paytables with other accredited RTG casinos and see how the payouts compare. One can perhaps infer what settings they are likely to have chosen for their slots from this information.
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Old 17th July 2008, 04:08 PM
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Today, I received a snailmail CD and free chip from this lot. Seems they accept Neteller too, and do seem to pay if you have the good fortune to win.

I recall that the same allegation has been made against Club World and iNetbet, but I pretty much took Club World to the cleaners on their slots a while back with $5 bets, so maybe it is a matter of variance. RTG casino can alter the way their slots play, but I don't think they can set them below 80% at worst, and more likely 90% would be the minimum. To get a feel for how "tight" they are, check the paytables on some of the well known games, such as 3 card poker, and Jacks or Better video poker, and see how this compares with the Microgaming equivalent, which are "full pay" for these two games. Check paytables with other accredited RTG casinos and see how the payouts compare. One can perhaps infer what settings they are likely to have chosen for their slots from this information.
What makes you think they can not set them below 80% VWM?
That is a specific figure but surely they can be adjusted to be Zero %.
Are you saying that RTG have built in a minimum payout into their software or that they set a Casinos payout %?
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Today, I received a snailmail CD and free chip from this lot. Seems they accept Neteller too, and do seem to pay if you have the good fortune to win.

I recall that the same allegation has been made against Club World and iNetbet, but I pretty much took Club World to the cleaners on their slots a while back with $5 bets, so maybe it is a matter of variance. RTG casino can alter the way their slots play, but I don't think they can set them below 80% at worst, and more likely 90% would be the minimum. To get a feel for how "tight" they are, check the paytables on some of the well known games, such as 3 card poker, and Jacks or Better video poker, and see how this compares with the Microgaming equivalent, which are "full pay" for these two games. Check paytables with other accredited RTG casinos and see how the payouts compare. One can perhaps infer what settings they are likely to have chosen for their slots from this information.
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do u need to deposit if u win to withdraw? (sure u will)
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What makes you think they can not set them below 80% VWM?
That is a specific figure but surely they can be adjusted to be Zero %.
Are you saying that RTG have built in a minimum payout into their software or that they set a Casinos payout %?
I was told by an RTG licencee that RTG offer 3 payout levels (on the slots at least): 97%, 95% and 93%. The casino picks one and sticks with it. They can only ask RTG to lower it with justification and it takes months. 2nd hand info, but no reason to distrust who told me.
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did anybody ever bother to ask....?????
Is that 95 % the money they take out off our deposits?????
Cause we......all of us.....probably misundearstood.
When "they" talk about % they are trying to let us undearsteand what theyr fees are
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i had great service there and was paid within 24 hours, not bad at all, i found on my play with them the first two times, was way above what i would consider to be normal r.t.g payouts, the third time was way under but i cant complain. i found them to be on the ball as far as answering emails go, they have two nice reps i dealt with on there, yazmeen and another person, yazmeen is in charge of payouts and i was treated most kindly there....laurie
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Anybody actually stop to wonder where they got hold of your mailing addresses to send the CD's to? So much for integrity and privacy..

I got the CD as well but I know I never gave them my mailing address because I had never heard of them prior to that.
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I uninstalled it but i got a CD with a free $50 chip code so why not. Its 20times but doesnt say anything about a max cashout/

Am i allowed to give the code so you guys can try it or will I get in trouble ?
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