TIV

[ballysdb]

Hey Rob...I wasn't a member back in '04 so I had no idea she had that great run!

Reminds me of my "Gamblers wet dream" of a night that I had at Colesseum Casino back in '02. Come to think of it...it was 2 days before Christmas! That's funny!

I deposited $50, lost it. Deposited another $50 and hit 2 5x's symbols and a blue seven on High Five. Then I hit $1200 on Real Thunder. Next 2 Royal Flushes for $8000. Then Four Dueces for $8000.

I couldn't lose. I got it up to $31000.00.

Oh wait...I blew it all! Sucks having a gambling problem! But it was a hell of a good time!

[RobWin]

Hey Rob...I wasn't a member back in '04 so I had no idea she had that great run!

Reminds me of my "Gamblers wet dream" of a night that I had at Colesseum Casino back in '02. Come to think of it...it was 2 days before Christmas! That's funny!

I deposited $50, lost it. Deposited another $50 and hit 2 5x's symbols and a blue seven on High Five. Then I hit $1200 on Real Thunder. Next 2 Royal Flushes for $8000. Then Four Dueces for $8000.

I couldn't lose. I got it up to $31000.00.

Oh wait...I blew it all! Sucks having a gambling problem! But it was a hell of a good time!

Got to Love those "Gamblers Wet Dreams"...right Deb...they are so few and far between !!

[kakata]

Rob could I borrow your wife for couple days.......while you can keep mine forever if you like?

[NASHVEGAS]

So look at it like this Nash...that 30K you just cashed out will FINALLY be totally paid out to you in about 2 (TWO) MONTHS !! Somewhere around the last week in June most likely...what are you complaining about...if you were at one of the Crystal Palace Group casinos it would take just as long...

LOL, I would not mind waiting the 2 months at all to receive payment.............what maybe people do not realize I can not cash out the $30K period from my casino cash account balance (which imo their terms do not state) and then willingly wait the 2 months to be paid which I have no problem with and imo is what their terms state or imply..................I can only cash out $4K a week from my casino cash account balance ($2K per day up to $4k per week)................I then have $26K left in my casino cash account balance, to do what??? Maybe play and lose time and time again, I could body slam my puter, I could simply not play for weeks at TIV where like Hippo, it is the Rivals I play and only I will play (if they do not ban me as one reliable member has PMed me that he was banned for speaking ,he states, the truth, that said que sera,que sera), or in order to have a shot at making another $4K cash out from my remaining casino cash account balance in one week, TIV sentences me, LOL but not LOL, to a time out for a week, then another time out for a week, then another time out for a week, then another time out for a week, then another time out for a week, then another time out for a week, then another time out for a week, then another time out for a week and then and only then will I have been allowed to cash out in this case all $30K from my casino cash account balance..............I do not like time outs, thought maybe I could adapt, I have been wrong prior on adapting and now realize I always will be,...................reversing of 24 or 48 hour reversals (or simply reversing while the casino is processing) of a real cashout from my casino cash account balance, I can accept full responsibility for my actions.................a 7 or 8 week time out from playing at TIV so I do not gamble one penny of the $30K I would have wanted removed from my casino cash account balance or even longer time outs for prior larger wins I have had ($30K @ other Rivals would be 4 or 5 months) while waiting to complete the multiple weeks the cash out from my casino cash account balance, at first I accepted full responsibilty as I saw the casino's hidden agenda from Day 2 or 3 by not at the time shockingly allowing me to cash out my entire casino cash account balance but maybe I am being/have been too hard on myself as I feel most with this large of a win will never have a chance to be paid much of the win of this size for example. This is exactly what Rivals intends imo as I can attest at least as an example (some,like________, may say I am a bad example but I would ask have you walked in similiar shoes, very easy for one to opine as I could tell one with perfection what to do also, most do not practice what they preach as this is human nature, even tougher to conquer is the fair psychological advantages of the surreal gambling world, and only the most disciplined could overcome the unfair imo psychological advantage an online casino maintains by not allowing any player regardless of the amount ((assuming one has a casino cash account balance somewhat greater than $4K or even greater than the $2K daily limit as being required to wait another 24 hours to withdrawal an amount greater than $2K but less than $4K from your casino cash account balance can have the same effect just having to wait 24 hours)) to remove their elgible casino cash account balance at the point in time the player choses and not when the casino choses) of my consequences of not being allowed to cash out several wins in the mid lower five figures from my casino cash account balance in entirety as I wished!! (Would love CM's opine.................and how can Rivals even argue it may be a term when Rivals according to recent posts violates its' own TandC's, players do not in general get a break on violating TandC's!!!)...............With all due respect to SlotWizard, I may take his advice because as TIV continues to really avoid the above real cash out concern as well as not allow at least this player to remove my entire balance from my casino cash account (ftr,none of the just prior bolded is an accusation as I have the documented back-up) and cease all online play. Regardless, the inability to cash out in entirety a big (relative term but in this case one should get what I mean) win/amount from your casino cash account balance without having a time out for many weeks or months is at a minimum deceptive in the TandC's even if one accepts the word "withdrawal" refers to both limiting what amount can be removed from your casino cash account balance as well as the payment amount to be disbursed for the subject time period.............Also ftr, I read the TandC's clearly before playing in January and had no idea initially I could not remove my first win balance of $43K ,iirc, in my casino cash account and then be disbursed $4k per week (this I understood and accepted) of the $43K accordingly (Because I wished for the $43K or the remaing balance ((once I became aware after my first attempt to cash out)) be removed from my casino cash account and ftr I did PM John in regards while trying to find out several things as a newbie but not being able to remove my entire casino cash account balance ((my concern and confusion)) never got a response or if so I missed it. Could have just been an oversight as John and I were primarily discussing getting the $8K monthly payment disbursement restriction changed at that time)!!!!!!!!!!!

[RobWin]

Rob could I borrow your wife for couple days.......while you can keep mine forever if you like?

Kakata, ROTFLMAO...

[kakata]

I wasnt kidding............just in case...think about it
She and my daughter won a cruise somehow somewhere............she asked me: honey do you mind if I go?
My answer was.
No HONEY I mind if you comeback.

[NASHVEGAS]

I assume you are kidding, right Rob???
I think one important point that Nash was trying to make is.....there are very few people who have enough self control to look at the amount of moolah every day for two months and stay in control of it. If the truth be told.......I bet the majority of people here at CM couldn't do it. How many have had a big win and then they have turned around and lost it all back because of a lack of self control? Rival's policy of leaving it in the cashier and then mix in human nature makes it unlikely that they will have to pay out many huge wins. I would guess it's a rare person who could forgo the temptation of leaving it just sitting there. I'll admit.....I don't think I could if I had to look at it every day.
It's as simple as that, don't you think?

Bulleyes, wish I had not started my latest post, then answered the phone so I missed this post (among others I still need to read) as you nailed it BB in less time and words.....only clarification I wish to follow up on is that your remaining balance does not go the cashier (may be saying the same and simply semantics) but remains in your casino cash account balance. My above post mentions both some actual ramifications and then the other possible cause and effect ramifications of balances being required to actually remain in your actual cash account balance!!!...Gonna catch up on the thread now,LOL!!!

[RobWin]

Could have just been an oversight as John and I were primarily discussing getting the $8K monthly payment disbursement restriction changed at that time)!!!!!!!!!!!

Nash, has the 8K monthly Max withdrawal been lifted...hell I forgot about that one and with that still in effect it could be almost 4 (FOUR) months for you to get ALL of your cashout in your hands !!

[hippo925]

nash, i know you have been dealing with john who i am sure is doing all he can to his best abilities within his role at rival, but (unless i missed it), have you considered asking john to discuss this matter with robrival directly?

[zap987]

I deposited more this week at TiV than any other week and didn't get the freebie today either. Kinda annoying since I was hoping to play a bit but still waiting 12 days for a simple Neteller cashout. But then it's kinda hard to get very angry for not getting free cash to play with