Ladbrokes February Tomb Raider tournament - Question.

**umissme** · 2nd March 2008, 08:57 AM

You are so RIGHT again lol.

I got this answer from ladbroks
Have asked them to check with microgaming as I don't want to lose any winnings.(awaiting reply)

We have investigated your query and can advise that a player can only
have one MPV alias per Casino provider, but it is possible to have an
alias with more than one Casino provider as long as each alias is
different.If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us again and we will be more than happy to help you.

Kind regards,

Ian
Customer Services
Ladbrokes Online Gaming

**vinylweatherman** · 2nd March 2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by umissme

You are so RIGHT again lol.

I got this answer from ladbroks
Have asked them to check with microgaming as I don't want to lose any winnings.(awaiting reply)

We have investigated your query and can advise that a player can only
have one MPV alias per Casino provider, but it is possible to have an
alias with more than one Casino provider as long as each alias is
different.If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us again and we will be more than happy to help you.

Kind regards,

Ian
Customer Services
Ladbrokes Online Gaming

That's bollox yet again.

The terms allow only ONE alias over the ENTIRE MPV SYSTEM, and you must verify it each time you access MPV for the first time at a new MG casino.

If the tournament is local to the one provider, you MAY be OK, however, this interpretation would make it OK to have different aliases at, say, Jackpot Factory, Grand Prive, Fortune Lounge, 32Red, Ladbrokes, and more as they are added, this would give at least 5 tries at each single freeroll tournament, the weekender, and any central special event, and this would imply this is OK.
This might indicate that what looks like fraud with that list of similar usernames, is probably quite OK under this ruling from Ladbrokes.

Since players cannot themselves get a ruling from MG, who run this, and Ladbrokes claim this has come from them, why then do the rules given when we actually access the MPV and create an alias say we CAN'T have different aliases with different providers.

Normally, the first time you access the MPV, you get a screen that asks "is this you", and displays the alias stored against your details on the central MPV, in order to create a new one with the new provider, it is normally necessary to LIE and say "no", and only then can you create a new alias. At Ladbrokes though, this does not happen, it does not detect anything from the MPV and just takes you to the "create new alias" screen. The problem is that you can then exploit this new alias at other casinos in the MPV network, provided you have not already registered one, and this could allow more than one entry in the various central tournaments.
Players who spotted this flaw early enough, could easily have half a dozen different aliases, and be having quite an advantage when it comes to the first round of "freeroll" tournaments, as they get 5 or so chances, and can pick the best of these to pursue with continues, or indeed just not bother & hope for a decent first round hit and a few small prizes.

**umissme** · 2nd March 2008, 03:54 PM

AGREE Agree,,
I have a reply to funny, they don't how these tournaments work.
I will send another email stating what you have just said, can't wait for reply.lol

Thank you for your e-mail regarding account 'umissme'. With regards to your query, I can confirm the following: - you only have one MPV alias on Ladbrokes, and this is '---whocares---'. - you are only allowed on alias per company, but you may be registered at several companies - when you play a tournament on, say, Royal Vegas, you are only playing against other Royal Vegas players. When you are playing an identical looking tournament on Ladbrokes, you are only playing against other Ladbrokes players. The two tournaments are not connected except that they were made by the same software supplier and look similar. - The only reason you were unable to register "umissme" as your Ladbrokes MPV alias is likely because another player had already bagged it. I hope this email has answered all your queries. If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us again and we will be more than happy to help you. Kind RegardsPriyaCustomer ServicesLadbrokes Online Gaming

**vinylweatherman** · 2nd March 2008, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by umissme

AGREE Agree,,
I have a reply to funny, they don't how these tournaments work.
I will send another email stating what you have just said, can't waite for reply.loladded

Thank you for your e-mail regarding account 'umissme'. With regards to your query, I can confirm the following: - you only have one MPV alias on Ladbrokes, and this is '---whocares---'. - you are only allowed on alias per company, but you may be registered at several companies - when you play a tournament on, say, Royal Vegas, you are only playing against other Royal Vegas players. When you are playing an identical looking tournament on Ladbrokes, you are only playing against other Ladbrokes players. The two tournaments are not connected except that they were made by the same software supplier and look similar. - The only reason you were unable to register "umissme" as your Ladbrokes MPV alias is likely because another player had already bagged it. I hope this email has answered all your queries. If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us again and we will be more than happy to help you. Kind RegardsPriyaCustomer ServicesLadbrokes Online Gaming

Complete hogwash, bullshite, and bollox. The MAJORITY of the tournaments are central, such as the $20,000 weekender, and the many $200, $500, events on Tomb Raider, Thunderstruck etc. You play against players at ALL the casinos operating the tournaments. The ONLY tournaments where this would be true are the LOCAL ones that individual companies have the option to put on, such as the Jackpot Factory "blog" tournaments, the Royal Vegas 150K satellites and final, the Grand Prive loyalty freerolls, AND, of course, the Ladbrokes February Tomb Raider event.

**umissme** · 2nd March 2008, 04:16 PM

AGREE; AGREE, have to see what reply I get back, lol

**chuchu59** · 2nd March 2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Slotster!

I'm more suspicious of two dodgy sounding names that keep popping up when I've been playing tournaments recently...

"-----Simmo" and "spearmaster"

Sounds well dodgy to me...

You mean Simmo and Muppetman dont you?

**umissme** · 2nd March 2008, 04:38 PM

I sent a screenshot to alljackpots about the 7 aliases (I don't know why I am bothering with this.

Lets all cheat lol

The reply

Thank you for contacting All Jackpots Casino about your concerns regarding the security of the Thunderstruck tournament.

I have reviewed the screenshots you provided and as far as I can see, it appears that the three aliases you specified are the result of three different players choosing similar aliases.
Since it is technically impossible for a single player to register for any tournament on the same computer IP address under different aliases, this could most likely be three friends registering similar aliases on different computers . . . or simply a coincidence.

While I do not believe that in this particular instance there has been any misconduct or attempt to circumvent the tournament rules, I do want to thank you for your vigilance and awareness of the possibility that this might have been an attempt to override the regulations.

It is awareness such as yours that helps All Jackpots Factory to maintain the high level of security for both the personal and financial security of our players.

Should you have any additional questions or comments, please don't hesitate to contact our Customer Service Desk on the toll-free numbers listed below. We are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for your convenience.

Best Regards,
Lex

**Jufo** · 2nd March 2008, 05:08 PM

The inability to choose the same alias doesn't involve just Ladbrokes. I changed the currency of my account at Spin Palace and when I tried to play slot tournaments, I wasn't able to take the same alias anymore and I was forced to choose a new alias. So there are situations where you are not able to use the same alias. I think that in this situation it is also unfair that you risk winnings being confiscated due to "only one alias rule".

**umissme** · 2nd March 2008, 05:25 PM

Reply from ladbrokes, wait and see.

Thank you for your e-mail. As far as we are aware players are only able to have one alias per gaming company. However, due to your comments we are currently seeking clarification on this matter and will revert to you once we have the same. In regard to your claim that most tournaments are central, you are correct in saying this. However, there are certain tournaments specificto Ladbrokes customers. If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us again and we will be more than happy to help you. Kind Regards AndrewCustomer ServicesLadbrokes Online Gaming

**umissme** · 2nd March 2008, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jufo

The inability to choose the same alias doesn't involve just Ladbrokes. I changed the currency of my account at Spin Palace and when I tried to play slot tournaments, I wasn't able to take the same alias anymore and I was forced to choose a new alias. So there are situations where you are not able to use the same alias. I think that in this situation it is also unfair that you risk winnings being confiscated due to "only one alias rule".

AGREE, It's not for the likes of us to see this and tell them whats wrong.
THEY SHOULD KNOW and stop people trying to cheat.