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Old 1st February 2008, 01:13 PM
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I swear Mg casinos are all linked in some fashion

I had a nice win about 2 weeks ago and made a nice cashout. Since that time however I cant win diddly squat on ANY mg casino. cant even get the bonus rounds out. It doesnt matter which one i deposit at, they all play really really lousy. Has anyone else noticed that after a nice withdrawal the casinos seem to play crap, kind of like they all know youve had a good win and now their hell bent on getting it back lol?
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I had a nice win about 2 weeks ago and made a nice cashout. Since that time however I cant win diddly squat on ANY mg casino. cant even get the bonus rounds out. It doesnt matter which one i deposit at, they all play really really lousy. Has anyone else noticed that after a nice withdrawal the casinos seem to play crap, kind of like they all know youve had a good win and now their hell bent on getting it back lol?
Yes, but it has been confined to the casino I hit big at. I find that by playing several casinos, I will end up finding another where the game I want to play is "hot". Often, this where the same game has previously been "cold".

Last Monday, I found Munchkins really cold at Challenge, but was hot at Golden Reef. My tactic, after a wait of a few days, is to hit Munchkins hard at Challenge, and go easy at Golden Reef. Hitting a game "hard" is really about increasing the bet size until it starts dropping bonus rounds again. Once one of these offers the retrigger, the game is "hot", and may well play out a number of closely spaced bonus rounds, or a really good one or two in close succession.
This is how I hit that one at Spin Palace - I was on a "hot" session, and got a couple of bonus rounds on Munchkins, but no retrigger. I increased my bets from 10-50, through 33.25 and upto 67-50. I was particularly fortunate that my FIRST spin at 67-50 dropped three scatters, and produced a bonus round of many retriggers for over 10K. There was one further bonus round, and then I cashed out £15,000 from a £300 cashback on losses chip.

I now consider Spin Palace "killed", and have diverted attention to Ruby Fortune. Interestingly, casino operators walk straight into this one, and tend to throw bonuses and other promos at losing accounts, so my attempts to even the score are subsidised.
Another casino I consider "killed" is All Jackpots, at some 40K AHEAD (but this is not so great when considering how exceptional these two cases are, and I am still well down overall, mainly due to bad strategy in my first year or two of playing)

I am sure individual games have some kind of "memory" as to their "mood" for individual players, but by dicking around with coin size, and number per line, this can sometimes be overcome, and changing casinos is another way.
I tend to have accounts at nearly all casinos at a good group, as I can try to find the "hot" account during a time when a promotion is running. I have found that throwing more deposits into a determined "cold" casino just makes it go into deep freeze - I have seen bad runs go for tens of thousands of spins or hands, it seems to "lock" into a certain state at times , the only remedy seems to be to change to another casino, and try the cold one another time.
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Better than me then Vinyl, ive tried several since my nice cashout and am lucky if i can even HIT a bonus round lol just lost a 100 in the last hour playing 20 pence spins and not ONE bonus round Whats the odds of that lol
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Last Monday, I found Munchkins really cold at Challenge, but was hot at Golden Reef. My tactic, after a wait of a few days, is to hit Munchkins hard at Challenge, and go easy at Golden Reef. Hitting a game "hard" is really about increasing the bet size until it starts dropping bonus rounds again. Once one of these offers the retrigger, the game is "hot", and may well play out a number of closely spaced bonus rounds, or a really good one or two in close succession.

This is how I hit that one at Spin Palace - I was on a "hot" session, and got a couple of bonus rounds on Munchkins, but no retrigger. I increased my bets from 10-50, through 33.25 and upto 67-50. I was particularly fortunate that my FIRST spin at 67-50 dropped three scatters, and produced a bonus round of many retriggers for over 10K. There was one further bonus round, and then I cashed out £15,000 from a £300 cashback on losses chip.
Nice tactic, but surely not recommended.

I've tried this type of method many a time and have easily busted out.

Unless you have a monster sized bank roll, this type of play can suck you dry quicker than Divine Brown.
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When you play MG, you are basically playing at the same casino regardless of it's name. It is just the skin that is different with each operator. Does it mean it is rigged to ensure that you do not win again? Certainly not. I have seen plenty players win jackpots frequently even at the same operator. Play is random at MG casinos there is no trickery involved, so at least do not worry about that.

I do suggest though that you cool off after a big win and take a break for a couple of days. The win tends to make you play crazy and just deporit the money back into the casino.
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I have played MG casinos for many years and concur with Chatmaster. Sometimes there are strange things that occur. I have played heavily at VP for the past several weeks and have been one away from a royal flush over 50 times. Based on my normal play I should have hit the RF at least a few times. This is by far the worst I have seen over the years. Cheers
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Slots: Sometimes they are "hot", sometimes they are "cold"; that's how they work.

How do Vegas casino's work this clever scam? They don't - they just set slots at 95% ish and watch the money roll in... Just like online casino's do.

How many times do we need to go over this!?
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When you play MG, you are basically playing at the same casino regardless of it's name. It is just the skin that is different with each operator. Does it mean it is rigged to ensure that you do not win again? Certainly not. I have seen plenty players win jackpots frequently even at the same operator. Play is random at MG casinos there is no trickery involved, so at least do not worry about that.

I do suggest though that you cool off after a big win and take a break for a couple of days. The win tends to make you play crazy and just deporit the money back into the casino.
I agree with your post on all of the points barring one. I dont believe that playing at ANY casino is a random act. Im not saying its fixed or rigged but i do believe the computers which run the programs know when they have paid out well and beyond the % ratio and tighten up. I dont see how it can be any other way after years of playing MG its not possible that you can have for example 1 week of brilliant and fun gaming with bonuses coming out left right and centre consistantly and then have a week of absolutely nothing coming out. Random doesnt work like that if it is truly random. You should still see bonus rounds coming out. A 100 quid deposit spinning on lowest bet should trigger SOME bonuses, yet it did not on any of the 10 games i played on. I just find it strange how some days you can log on and bonus rounds are fast frequent and fluid, yet other times, they are non existant.

If random truly is random their should be no such thing as a `hot` slot or a `cold` slot but we all know that there are.
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Slots: Sometimes they are "hot", sometimes they are "cold"; that's how they work.

How do Vegas casino's work this clever scam? They don't - they just set slots at 95% ish and watch the money roll in... Just like online casino's do.

How many times do we need to go over this!?
Agreed, so if a slot has paid out MORE than its 95 % ratio then it goes cold. that isnt random, thats a computer eliminating the possibility of further wins. ie `cold`
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Nice tactic, but surely not recommended.

I've tried this type of method many a time and have easily busted out.

Unless you have a monster sized bank roll, this type of play can suck you dry quicker than Divine Brown.
It depends on how far it is pushed, and whether it can be used with a promotion. I play on Mondays, so hitting Munchkins hard can give one of the top prizes on the leaderboard, as well as the chance of hitting big. I rarely go as high as 67-50 though. When I did this, I had already won 4K on video poker, and was seeing "hot" behaviour on Munchkins, so I decided to play off around £300 with half a dozen monster spins, and just got lucky on the very first one. Naturally, I withdrew at £15,000 from a 16K peak, knowing full well such an event was unlikey to happen again, and that the 15K could vanish quickly if the games went into a drought. I have seen Munchkins run 600+ spins with no bonus round, even though it often gives several per 100 spins when playing well. This variance is too big to be properly random, because it is not just that the scatters don't fall in threes, it is that they don't fall hardly at all in a cold phase, not even in ones and twos - yet the sector of the reels away from the scatters keeps on turning up again and again.
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