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    Try playing just for fun... See if your luck is any different.

    Play a free game of Blackjack

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    Just playing devil's advocate, I'm not sure how any software could be programmed to increase it's winning percentage on higher bets when it doesn't know when or if the player will increase his bet. If the software is programmed to assume a player will increase his bet at some point (based on past trends, etc.), savvy players could reduce their bets after a good run or alternate between high and low bets, outsmarting the software. Instead of reading the other players at a real table of hold em, one could try to outguess the software!

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    Remove a few high cards from the pack and the house has a bigger edge. program that to switch when someone increases their bets. That may be impossible to catch if they also switch to more low cards when the betting is reduced.

    It wouldnt be very noticeable and not to the extremes people think it is but that is a way to manipulate.

    Realistically most people increase their bets to the extent they cannot afford a bad run in their bankroll before they go bust.

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    In My Opinion, any software that communicates between the program and the random number generator for anything but to call for a random number, is NOT fair software. (Unless it is explicitly stated that larger bets have a different return percentage than smaller bets, or v-versa)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryand View Post
    Just playing devil's advocate, I'm not sure how any software could be programmed to increase it's winning percentage on higher bets when it doesn't know when or if the player will increase his bet.
    But it does, it knows this all the time. The casino communicates with the server for every spin/hand or what so ever. Fast CPU have no problems what so ever doing emense calculations at a fraction of a second going this or that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimss View Post
    But it does, it knows this all the time. The casino communicates with the server for every spin/hand or what so ever. Fast CPU have no problems what so ever doing emense calculations at a fraction of a second going this or that way.
    Of course it can be done. But if it occurs and isn't stated - it is crooked, period.

    B&M under NVC allow for 4% differential, but players don't know that. Player beware, go to the source, play as an informed player. Unless these slots prominently display this fact in the paytable, they are CROOKED!

    Microgaming has a 'fluke' in the older games that 'creates' a different result per LINES bet, not coins bet. (as you helped expose)

    Show me a software that gives a different result per coin bet, and I will show you a software that is not fair.

    But show me

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    Lightbulb BASED ON COMMENT ABOVE THEN.......

    MG software must not be fair, because it is my experience after playing Mg for 3 years that it does matter how many coins or lines you are playing.

    I guarantee you will hit something more frequently if you don't bet max coins and more often than not if I am not hitting anything and drop to say 19 lines instead of 20 I will start hitting.

    I only play slots not video poker, I lose my money too fast on VP

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    I thought the customer was right.

    I have bitched about Bodog blackjacks seeming stacked blackjack game. well i informed them last nite after a 22 hand losing streak, all bets were $5. It ended when I was down to my last dollar and lo and behold I got a blackjack. Here is an excerpt:

    [SIZE="2"][If you will notice have generated thousands of dollars in wagering in your virtual casino over the pat 16 months. But I am no longer willing to throw my money away because you can talk about your RnG all you want but your blackjack is rigged. Do not tell me about optimal playing strategy etc... I know how to play the game. I also know when i am being fleeced and your blackjack table is ground zero of an uneven playing field. I realize the house has the natural advantage but look at my last 400 hands or so and you will notice that your dealer has ripped of numerous streaks of 18 out 20, or 15 in a row etc... Or getting 21 5 out of 6 hands to start a shoe while it is 13 bust or 12 bust or 16 bust for me./SIZE]

    they responded in a typically lame fashion:

    You may feel that you are seeing more anomalous hands and although this can seem strange please remember that when compared to the number of hands played in a brick and mortar casino, you are playing a great deal more hands in an online Casino; approximately 16-20 hands per minute versus 2-5 hands. Also keep in mind that the cards are shuffled after every hand. These are the two main differences between land-based and online Casinos and for some that can make the games have a very different feel.

    what???? yeah at a land-based casino you can see the freaking cards.

    my response:I understand that by shuffling the cards every hand changes the complexion of the game. However, if you notice my hand history I play pretty much by the book and the house edge should be 4-6%. Your edge against me is quite a but higher and you still didn't explain why I win more often when wagering less and lose much more frequently when my wagers increase. That has nothing to do with the speed of the game.

    Bodog then spit out a bunch of numbers showing that during the last month i had played 1,345 hands winning 623 and losing 796. I had 72 Blackjacks they had 88. Nice huh? then they stopped responding.

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    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...nos-cheat.html

    The above link is a thread of mine about cheating.

    Although I have no doubts any more (i.e. I am 100% certain) that all or almost all casinos can cheat, i.e. they have the appropriate software to manipulate the results of a RNG in order to increase the house edge by any exact percentage that they choose, some casinos have done a bad job in disguising their cheating. For example, I am that much certain that VC cheats, that I would bet my life just to earn 100 euros in return.

    Lately I am epxeriencing this contradictory phenomenon: I think I am guessing correctly when the next cards are going to be picture rich (by "rich" I mean for example 3 out of the 5 cards of a hand are pictures). How I am guessing this is another story, I think there is a slight trend in the RNG outcomes. Dont get enthousiastic, even if I am correct, nobody can make money out of it, simply because they cheat. So I increase my bet (from 1 dollar to 2 or 3 dollars) when I expect a picture-rich area, but I almost always get a picture and a low card and the dealer always a picture-picture. This keeps happening for thousands of hands. I am not 100% certain that I am indeed guessing more successfully than un-successfully when the picture-rich cards are coming. I have not taken down notes or analysed the hand histories to see if most of my raised bets were in picture-rich hands. Anyway, after playing hundreds of thousands of hands, I think that the more probable case is that my discovery about this trend in the RNG outcomes is correct. But if I am correct, then this is very strange: Since they cheat, I should not be able to predict the picture rich hands, as when I increase my bet, I should be more likely to lose, i.e do not get picture-rich cards. Because when the cards are picture rich, the player has an edge and is bound to win in the long run. Therefore if this is so, then the cheating is very particular, very defined: There is a program that takes the 5-6 next cards ordered by the RNG for the next hand, but it rearranges them in favour of the dealer. Not always of course, but according to the rate specified by the casino manager who decides the rate of cheating = the inrease in the house edge.

    I do not care if you believe that I indeed can predict the picture rich areas (I am not 100% sure myself either), but I just wanted to share with you this contradictory phenomenon.

    Anyway do not get confused: the proof that they cheat is not that I predict the picture rich areas but i cannot win or that the dealer gets the best combination of picture-rich cards tha I do. If my discovery is false, then changing by bet size from 1 to 3 should make no difference to my overall results, which are very-very below the statistical average in many particular casinos. For example my results in VC are a joke.

    Of course I only play cashable bonuses, knowing that I am going to be cheated a little. And sometimes, some casinos do not cheat in the way of increasing the house edge, but in the way of ENFORCING that your profit/loss will be close to the statistical-expected average. Read more on this ENFORCING in my above thread. I failed to make profits lately (well, yeah, extremelly "bad luck", you know).

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    hey, "I never win", the house edge in blackjack is 0.5%, not 4-6% What are you talkin about?

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