3Dice *Sigh* Stupid friends

[Rusty]

Only you know the truth xstud and if that is what you posted then any derogatory posts are irrelevant except in how they reflect on the posters.
Be true to yourself because everyone else is full of shit

I am sure though that you would of got more sympathy if you had not repeatedly stated your hope that Enzo might be able to help in some way.

People are likely to infer from that it is money rather than sympathy you wanted.

Good luck for the future.

Edit: Damn you Lojo stop reading my mind!

[lojo]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Edit: Damn you Rusty stop reading my mind!

Fixed yer post

Yours was more clear than mine

[hippo925]

Originally Posted by Rusty

Edit: Damn you Lojo stop reading my mind!

Not to derail but..... OMG, do you know how many times i've thought the same thing? Everytime i think i have something to add to a thread, Lojo is there first and usually says it much better than i would have! Plus he's some expert or something at research and finding things in threads 100 years old.

[chuchu59]

Originally Posted by xstud

Let's put it this way, he owes me money.

I never said that this was a smart thing and I know Enzo probably won't do anything I am just giving my hat off to the support team at 3dice for even mentioning this to him.

If they did anything it would be a shocker to me...

I don't expect anything to be done, and Anna did not have to apologize at all. The only thing that is difficult that I feel that 3dice should say sorry for is that I only requested 200.00 be transfered from my withdrawl to my account.

Everything else is my fault. I don't want flames... this was just a rant. I am not begging for money or expecting anything.

Hi,

It's a bit baffling. Does your friend owe you money now because he lost on your account? Anyway, this reverse withdrawal thing is very harmful and I have been a victim to it on numerous occasions and the total tally should have exceeded $3K by now. Your friend seems to be quite addicted but I am also wondering what your response would be if he had won big instead. Try to forget the whole issue and it is imperative you stay away from online gambling for some time because you simply lost the remaining $1800 on the spur of the moment which is not a good sign under any circumstances. This is akin to chasing losses and could end you up in a deep hole.

[Slotster!]

You played it back through, no doubt about it...

I'm not having a go by any means -- I feel your pain and have absolute sympathy! The amount of times I've reversed and dumped back in four figure amounts... well it's a lot; and I feel stupider each and every time.

Weird thing this gambling malarkey... You need some sort of symbol at your desk/in your pocket wherever... Something like a photo of the family or something important... Attribute a specific thought and value to it, so that just as you're about to pour that 2k withdrawal down the drain -- look at the photo/object and remember what you could be doing with it instead.

It's a lot easier to log off and switch the computer off that way!

Getting to a point where recreational gambling is a genuinely enjoyable pastime and in no way destructive is a very nice place to be. Compulsive behaviour in any activity is always bad news.

Best of luck with everything!

[GrandMaster]

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

[happygobrokey]

invite the friend over again, slip him some roofies, and steal one of his kidneys

[xstud]

Originally Posted by happygobrokey

invite the friend over again, slip him some roofies, and steal one of his kidneys

The saddest thing about this is that I don't have a lot of "friends" and needless to say I am in the toughest situation... do you continue talking to a "friend" like this just to have hope of getting money back? or do you just say "screw it" regardless I am so mad I am better off not talking to him for a while because I don't want to do anything stupid.

I have cooled down and I am done defending myself... for those of you that said only I know the truth... you are totally right! convincing a bunch of people on a message board is ridiculous and the fact that people thought this was a begging thread was my fault. I should have waited like one of the posters said and then if by some miracle 3dice did anything it would have been a more positive vibe on them.

If they did nothing... well nothing is lost and nothing changed.

Sorry for those of you that thought I was begging or putting 3dice down.

As a side note. Frankly reversing entire withdrawls is something i have never really done because when I hit that button I realize it is "my money" I think that there are cases where it simply doesn't make sense for the processing time to take as long as it does but this is the new world of online gaming.

[Aldebaran]

Hi xstud,
It does not matter what I, or any other stranger on a forum believe happened to you. Having money stolen by a friend is very unpleasant and losing winnings through reverse withdrawls is not pleasant either.

I'm not sure you will find a handful of people in this forum who have not withdrawn winnings. I have, regretted it, exercised self control for a few withdrawls and then been tempted again. Most of us can empathise with this. Its a gambler's dilemma.

What does does jar, and what has possibly provoked some of the "flaming posts" is the sense, from your posts, that you are entitled to something.

You mention you are 26, like that should excuse things. Friend, 26 is not young.
The average age of soldiers fighting in WW2 was 26 (Vietnam-22y) http://www.vhfcn.org/stat.html

You are an adult, remember that.

Take a look at article 2 (link below) and think about the courage that 13 year old must have to even wake up in the morning and face the day. Think about how grateful she is to have a loaf of bread because she has learnt that despite all politicians great words in great laws she is entitled to nothing. She is half your age.

The $75 that you are petulantly refusing from 3Dice would amount to 10 days work for the 17 year old in Article2. It would have supplied the family with about 50 loaves of bread and 50 litres of milk. If you don't want it, perhaps you could ask 3Dice to donate it to someone who will see it as a blessing.

And of the $5000 that disappeared, well that could have radically changed someone's llife. You could have supported this young man and paid for his education for 8 months.

The $1800 that you gave away? What could that have achieved?

The second wish granted came from the Tomorrow Trust for one of their students, Linda.
Both Linda’s parents had died as a result of Aids – his mother in 1999 and his father in early 2000. Linda and his older brother were left to take care of their three other siblings. He was only 15 at the time.
He and his brother sold drinks and apples on the roadside to keep a roof over their heads and to enable the younger siblings to go to school. The pressure got to much for Linda and he dropped out of school and ended up living on the streets.
In 2004 Linda’s brother died of a HIV-related illness. Linda decided to go back to school and passed grade 11 and matric.
In 2006 he learnt of Tomorrow Trust and was given the opportunity to continue studying. He excelled at college and passed all his subjects. His sister, Thokozane also enrolled and is doing well.
The Tomorrow Trust’s wish was for the sibling to get funding for their studies.
1Life Direct offered to sponsor Linda and Thokozane’s studies to the value of R50 000.

http://www.citizen.co.za/index/artic...esc=54089,1,22

Article2:http://www.news24.com/City_Press/Fea...057461,00.html

What I am trying to say, in the clumsiest way, is the world owes you nothing and casinos owe you nothing more than the terms of agreement.

Put things in prespective. Lessons learnt.

"There but by the grace of God go I." John Bradford

[xstud]

Originally Posted by Aldebaran

Hi xstud,
It does not matter what I, or any other stranger on a forum believe happened to you. Having money stolen by a friend is very unpleasant and losing winnings through reverse withdrawls is not pleasant either.

I'm not sure you will find a handful of people in this forum who have not withdrawn winnings. I have, regretted it, exercised self control for a few withdrawls and then been tempted again. Most of us can empathise with this. Its a gambler's dilemma.

What does does jar, and what has possibly provoked some of the "flaming posts" is the sense, from your posts, that you are entitled to something.

You mention you are 26, like that should excuse things. Friend, 26 is not young.
The average age of soldiers fighting in WW2 was 26 (Vietnam-22y) http://www.vhfcn.org/stat.html

You are an adult, remember that.

Take a look at article 2 (link below) and think about the courage that 13 year old must have to even wake up in the morning and face the day. Think about how grateful she is to have a loaf of bread because she has learnt that despite all politicians great words in great laws she is entitled to nothing. She is half your age.

The $75 that you are petulantly refusing from 3Dice would amount to 10 days work for the 17 year old in Article2. It would have supplied the family with about 50 loaves of bread and 50 litres of milk. If you don't want it, perhaps you could ask 3Dice to donate it to someone who will see it as a blessing.

And of the $5000 that disappeared, well that could have radically changed someone's llife. You could have supported this young man and paid for his education for 8 months.

The $1800 that you gave away? What could that have achieved?

The second wish granted came from the Tomorrow Trust for one of their students, Linda.
Both Linda’s parents had died as a result of Aids – his mother in 1999 and his father in early 2000. Linda and his older brother were left to take care of their three other siblings. He was only 15 at the time.
He and his brother sold drinks and apples on the roadside to keep a roof over their heads and to enable the younger siblings to go to school. The pressure got to much for Linda and he dropped out of school and ended up living on the streets.
In 2004 Linda’s brother died of a HIV-related illness. Linda decided to go back to school and passed grade 11 and matric.
In 2006 he learnt of Tomorrow Trust and was given the opportunity to continue studying. He excelled at college and passed all his subjects. His sister, Thokozane also enrolled and is doing well.
The Tomorrow Trust’s wish was for the sibling to get funding for their studies.
1Life Direct offered to sponsor Linda and Thokozane’s studies to the value of R50 000.

http://www.citizen.co.za/index/artic...esc=54089,1,22

Article2:http://www.news24.com/City_Press/Fea...057461,00.html

What I am trying to say, in the clumsiest way, is the world owes you nothing and casinos owe you nothing more than the terms of agreement.

Put things in prespective. Lessons learnt.

"There but by the grace of God go I." John Bradford

I don't want my posts to come across as anyone owes me anything. I am just stating where I am coming from thats all. If I was owed anything I would sit plain as day and beg. I realize how much money that is for people in other countries and I realize that I am in fact an adult.

That money could have changed my life or many other lives. But fact of the matter is the money is gone. I know this and am well aware. Right now any hope I have is the same hope that a person sitting at home watching the lotto on TV has hoping they are holding a winning ticket. And it's not hope with Enzo or any of his staff. It is hope within myself. Am I entitled to anything? No. Only entitled to what I can control in my daily life.

They don't have to do a damn thing, and frankly I have asked numerous times to just have them e-mail enzo and say forget it. I have asked for them to block and ban my IP. I hear the same thing

"Enzo is a really great guy and you really need to have him reveiw this first"

I don't ask that Enzo or any casino does anything because this is like walking into a brick and mortar casino and asking for a refund because you lost on the way out. I realize this is not how it works. The worst part is I was a victim and since online gambling is not regulated or policed in the US... there is nothing I can do. I wish I could call the cops... I wish I could file a police report or take him to small claims court. I wish I could do anything but about the only thing I can do is keep my chin up...

Thank you for your post and I want to assure you that the reason I said I am 26 a few times and said i don't have friends and all that jazz is because I am 26 and I don't have a lot of friends. It is fact and sad for me to admit. People can make fun of me, or critisize me or whatever, I am not asking for people to say "I am so sorry for you" or anything. If I was these posts would have been worded EXTREMELY different.

Thanks to those that have read and kept things on track without flaming. You really have helped me. I am sorry I get defensive but the worst things that some of us can feel or read is when you had something horrible happen and not one person believes you. It's like "the boy who cried wolf" syndrome except I have never cried wolf before.... i hope that made some kind of sense.