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Old 1st January 2008, 06:41 AM
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WHY I TRIED TO PAY FOR AN AUDIT!!! I THINK EVEN 3DICE WILL VOUCH FOR ME???

A few selected affiliates et al just claim software is fair and for we,the players to prove it is not. Then you call their bluff and more rhetoric. Basically I am to accept their word and/or shut up and not play! (do not worry about newbies or others who may not read this forum).....shame on the selected culprits and I will continue at my expense and time to seek a non paradoxical answer (there are other auditors available and others now in higher ranks who may want some answers). Here is an excerpt from Tennessean.Com in October 2007 that was the icing on the cake that software (similiar to gaming software) can be flawed (possibly with intent or without intent.) I hold no hard feelings against any affiliates or players who question my motives or tactics to obtain the truth. Enzo, I wish you could share some thoughts but I understand your situation and I appreciate the respect you have shown me as you and I both know this is about BJ software in the industry as a whole. In fact we (really Enzo) are now going to experiment with some BJ software ideas together (Kudos). I just happened to have access to the log files at Enzo's casino at the time I commissioned an audit.

"Board members said they wanted to wait until auditors had completed their reports on a computer coding error that kept certain numbers from being drawn before deciding whether to return to the system in which balls pop up with the winning numbers.

Several members noted they were hesitant to change because lottery sales are up in both games and because switching back to the old system would cost perhaps $5 million more because of higher television broadcasting costs.

The dramatically escalating cost convinced the board to switch to computers to pick the winning numbers. The change was made July 28, but an error in the system’s computer code kept the computers from drawing any numbers that had repeating digits, such as 1-1-4 or 5-5-5-5. The error was discovered Aug. 20, and the public was informed the next day.

The board’s audit committee met this morning to hear reports from the auditors who have been looking into the August “glitch.”

An auditor from KPMG Canada reported that the firm’s preliminary work found no problems with the system. The firm was hired to determine whether the computers now were operating properly. KPMG also will be comparing the error-plagued code with the corrected code.

The board’s internal auditor, Khristie Stoecklein, gave the audit committee a report on how the error occurred based on interviews with lottery staff and employees of SmartPlay International, the company that sold the lottery the computers, and another firm that was hired to verify the computer code didn’t have any errors. Stoecklein said she found nothing to indicate fraud.

The state Comptroller’s Office also is looking into the glitch and will be looking at whether fraud could be a factor, as well as other issues"
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I'd stay on it Nash, but the emotions will shear it if not careful. Also, hard to read because it rolls from the person who helped you into a lotto-like thing.

I'd suggest a closed thread for a couple of days - that you remain a member here to expose what you are on to - and that no other memebrs, regardless of status, goad you.

I believe you 100% that NO blackjack game online can be the same as a deck, or 60 decks, and it is time for the industry and their self-appointed apologists to answer, truthfully, in a way that any player can understand WHY.


It's time for the casinos to prove to us; not their ploppets, affiliates, and mathatiscians.

You have raised a question for the ages and I challenge as well.

For the casual or interested reader, please note that 3Dice - to the best of my knowledge, and that is GUT, would never intentionally provide an unfair game. If they built their stuff on 'acceptable practices' that return the fair percentage, then blame the standard setters, not them!

And, as I always have, I challenge 3Dice - I have never been disappointed, and won't be this time.

I see this as (and forums be damned) the rightful rising of the current potential ultimate casino.

Fair is fair, young is young.

Truth is truth.
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I don't know what a rigged state lottery has to do with online blackjack, but for some reason I was reminded of a Wikipedia article about the Lottery Paradox. The gist of it is:

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It is philosophically justifiable to believe that every individual lottery ticket won't win, but not justifiable to believe that no lottery ticket will win.
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I don't know what a rigged state lottery has to do with online blackjack, but for some reason I was reminded of a Wikipedia article about the Lottery Paradox. The gist of it is:


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It may have been flawed! One thing we agree on prolly is rigged and flawed are not one and the same. I always felt there may be a difference between a B & M game (advantage players, of course there is so exclude that) and online BJ so I quit on my own (as I realize you always suggest) and then began again late Sept. 07 playing online BJ....I see alot of things that you do not see but that does not make either of us the gospel. Do I not have the right to seek the gospel (assuming there is one) despite the rhetoric and obstacles to date (i.e. documents and SOF's in hand that I have offered CM all of it and still do)......Anyways,for now you and I can hopefully just agree to disagree on why I am pursuing the issues...........SIDENOTE:the debate of balls for the public's trust versus computer at least to me was somewhat analogous(sp-fixed) to B & M cards versus online RNG cards....Respect

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Ask me here bra, no secrets. eff em if they can't take the truth. Whatever that is.
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Ftr and because my OP is confusing per a few PM's...The excerpt is in quotes and blue and red colors...The lottery is the Tennessee state lottery (some thought it may have been about a lottery in Canada,my bad) in which the state lottery headquarters is in Nashvegas and this was a daily headline in the media for sometime with multiple issues not included in the excerpt.....This is the subject article excerpt's headline fwiw:Monday, 10/29/07

Lottery won't switch back to plastic numbered balls despite problems
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it might be because im hung over a bit but wtf is this thread about?

That online BJ might be rigged?
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