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Old 21st December 2007, 08:14 PM
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Warning - Check your bank statements

There has to be an affiliate company or casino or poker room , leaking personal info , or an employee stealing info .


I have a bank account that i only use to receive payments from affiliate programs . Today i take a look at it and see an echeck made out to Art Net .by a third party processor called market billing .


So called them and they told me the charge was for some adult monthly subscription site . Told them i never ordered and they said they would refund the cash ,, calling bank now to stop this check .

i did a little searching and found about a 1000 others who had this happen recently http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-397-5761/17

so go check your bank accounts ,
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Old 21st December 2007, 08:27 PM
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I just posted a thread in the attic.....they took $29.99 out of my checking account. same phone number you put up. I told you guys someone is stealing and now its checking accounts on top of credit card deductions.

and if anyone who reads this is a culprit.......leave me the hell alone already, Im broke enough as it is! Get a better job if you dont make enough money you loathing peice of crap.


BTW....I sent in a form to the FBI and there is a huge investigation. If anyone needs the ID # for this case to submit to the FBI it is case ID#I0711282349152812,please use that ID number when submitting your claim to the FBI. I was told to give this number to victims.

Now, if we could just narrow it down. I wish we had the list of people to see if ALL of us just played at one place at the same time
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Old 21st December 2007, 10:04 PM
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i had a charge for $49.99 removed from my checking account like 1 1/2 months ago, my bank is still investigating this incedent but all i know so far is that the charge originated out of dubai, my bank has temp refunded my funds pending the outcome but they have cancelled my visa check card and wont issue a new one untill this is resolved
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Pardon me for asking what may be a foolish question, (and I don't want to derail the thread) but... I was just thinking...

If the Feds and the Banking system can't stop mass thievery via unauthorized charges using erroneous names, old and/or fake addresses by KNOWN scammers (many, many people seem to have reported the theft with all info to both banks and FBI, states Attorneys, etc.), how in the devil are the banks going to police transactions we authorize at online casinos??

Good luck to you all, and let us know what happens with this.
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This is where that I personally believe the casinos are at risk for sneaking and taking our deposits in the first place. They cant dispute our reverse chargebacks because they are doing something illegal. Thats why when those processors were taking my money back in October I said "your lucky Im an honest person" because Mousy....I could of reversed ALL of them and there isnt anything the casinos can do about it. I like to sleep at night, so I wouldnt do that. They are finding back doors to get our money and some have even gone as far as taking our money but when we win, they dont pay up (ive gotten paid, i mean others in the US) You play with fire and either party will eventually get burned. In this case, I got burned twice and learned my lesson. I am now down to only one casino and that is the one I started with a long time ago, Club World and I write everything down and have meticulous records. Im through with all MG's and other RTG's that are ripoffs

I dont care if anyone disputes my theory because nothing is going to change my mind on how I feel about this crap. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's a duck
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Just want to comment

It sucks when you find out that you have been scammed out of funds from your bank account, it has happened to me once. Had to get a new debit card and all that..

I just wanted to say that there are scams, phishes and spam coming at us from all fronts, so it's possible that we may never know where the thief's get the information they use to rip us off. I just wanted to make the point that we shouldn't be too quick to blame online gaming as the leak.

I've heard that CC #'s can be bought by the hundreds for a few dollars on the net if you know where to go. It's also very easy for your computer to get infected by trojans and spyware that will steal your passwords and banking info. God help you if you visit porn sites, it's no telling what you will get infected with. We willingly give away our CC #'s in hopes that the companies we do business with will keep the information secure, but the fact is there is only one way to stay truly safe on the internet and that is not to use it. That isn't an option for most of it and we just have to hope for the best and take sensible precautions.
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This is where that I personally believe the casinos are at risk for sneaking and taking our deposits in the first place. They cant dispute our reverse chargebacks because they are doing something illegal. Thats why when those processors were taking my money back in October I said "your lucky Im an honest person" because Mousy....I could of reversed ALL of them and there isnt anything the casinos can do about it. I like to sleep at night, so I wouldnt do that. They are finding back doors to get our money and some have even gone as far as taking our money but when we win, they dont pay up (ive gotten paid, i mean others in the US) You play with fire and either party will eventually get burned. In this case, I got burned twice and learned my lesson. I am now down to only one casino and that is the one I started with a long time ago, Club World and I write everything down and have meticulous records. Im through with all MG's and other RTG's that are ripoffs

I dont care if anyone disputes my theory because nothing is going to change my mind on how I feel about this crap. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's a duck
or if it sucks like a duck.
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We willingly give away our CC #'s in hopes that the companies we do business with will keep the information secure, but the fact is there is only one way to stay truly safe on the internet and that is not to use it. That isn't an option for most of it and we just have to hope for the best and take sensible precautions.
I think that PayPal is a good option. PayPal can probably be trusted that they will keep the CC number safely confidential. And whenever you pay by PayPal, you do not expose your CC number to all the various merchants. Of course, not all e-shop sites accept PayPal.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 07:45 AM
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It sucks when you find out that you have been scammed out of funds from your bank account, it has happened to me once. Had to get a new debit card and all that..

I just wanted to say that there are scams, phishes and spam coming at us from all fronts, so it's possible that we may never know where the thief's get the information they use to rip us off. I just wanted to make the point that we shouldn't be too quick to blame online gaming as the leak.


I've heard that CC #'s can be bought by the hundreds for a few dollars on the net if you know where to go. It's also very easy for your computer to get infected by trojans and spyware that will steal your passwords and banking info. God help you if you visit porn sites, it's no telling what you will get infected with. We willingly give away our CC #'s in hopes that the companies we do business with will keep the information secure, but the fact is there is only one way to stay truly safe on the internet and that is not to use it. That isn't an option for most of it and we just have to hope for the best and take sensible precautions.

Please reread my original post . I stated that this checking account is only used to receive payments from affiliate programs . So it has to be one of the casinos i work with or there 3rd party processing companies .

Maybe a pissed off ex employee stole some info and sold it .
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