Withdrawing money- ALOT of credentials are needed!?

**kramdenfan** · 19th November 2007, 07:51 PM

Hi all-
I played at Crown Vegas for the first time last week, and quickly turned $75 into $200. I know that's not a ton of profit, but I cashed out, knowing that with that type of software I usually lose it all quick.

After I cashed out, I was sent an email with instructions for sending a copy of my drivers' license, a utility bill and my credit card to them in order for them to process the check. This immediately got me concerned with all the indentity theft issues going on these days. When I posted this info on another forum, someone directed me here, where I found alot of info about which casinos are safe or not. Crown Vegas is listed as "proceed with care" here, so I'm not sure if I should just let the money go or risk sending all this info to them.

Is this now the norm for withdrawing money from online casinos?

**AudiManinBoro** · 19th November 2007, 07:58 PM

Providing you blot out the middle digits of your card and of course the identifier security number on the rear there isnt really a lot anyone can do even with photocopies of your documents. Bearing in mind that they should already have prove of your address and other pertinent personal information from you when you signed up. I would suggest go get your money, the risk is small imo and certainly not worth justifying throwing 200 dollars away.

**oldtrvlagt** · 19th November 2007, 08:24 PM

I've had to do this several times on my first withdrawal (as I'm sure a lot of people here have done) and so far nothing has happened (knock on wood)!!

**happygobrokey** · 19th November 2007, 08:41 PM

i've seen an ad on tv, where the dude is driving a cube truck around town with his social security number printed on the side of the truck. there's this company that you can sign up to ($50 a year i think) and they insure you against identity theft for up to $1M in damages arising from any of your info being compromised. might be worth looking into. we all pay more than that to insure our cars and homes, why not our persons and associated pin numbers and cards too?

**lnspin** · 19th November 2007, 09:10 PM

Amazing when you deposit they take the money instantly , and find ways for you to deposit , but time to cash out you need more id then if you went to go get a mortgage .

I myself do not feel too confident to give all that info to someone in a third world country .

**bernynhel** · 19th November 2007, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by lnspin

Amazing when you deposit they take the money instantly , and find ways for you to deposit , but time to cash out you need more id then if you went to go get a mortgage .

I myself do not feel too confident to give all that info to someone in a third world country .

I've been keeping scanned images of my DL, utility bills and credit cards in a folder I call "ID Docs" in "My Pictures" for years - ever since I was first requested to download, fill out, sign and return what a casino called a "faxback" (via fax back then - hence the term - but after 3 faxes went thru too fuzzy for their satisfaction I finally asked if I just couldn't scan everything and email it which is now the norm). Now when I deposit for the first time at an online casino, I send their support an email requesting their credit card authorization form (or faxback) with the docs attached before I ever even make a wager. I use a NetSpend Visa prepaid debit card and I don't know of any online casinos that require a Social Security number any more so my vitals - credit card info, bank acct numbers, etc. - are never exposed. But yeah, this is usual and customary and I've never had a problem. Besides, you practically live in a third world country yourself these days, don't you? I mean, c'mon, I got lost once out there and ended up on Craig Rd in North LV and by the time I got back to Caesars' I had 3 pinatas, 2 boxes of M-80s, a rear window shot out and a dozen tamales as good as I've ever had anywhere - and I was born in San Bernardino! (humor)

**GGW Laurie** · 19th November 2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by happygobrokey

i've seen an ad on tv, where the dude is driving a cube truck around town with his social security number printed on the side of the truck. there's this company that you can sign up to ($50 a year i think) and they insure you against identity theft for up to $1M in damages arising from any of your info being compromised. might be worth looking into. we all pay more than that to insure our cars and homes, why not our persons and associated pin numbers and cards too?

..good idea happy, have you got any info on them? i have friends that this has happened to and its not so easy to get out of and it always costs the injured party in the end a ton of money to get fixed......laurie

**kramdenfan** · 19th November 2007, 10:01 PM

that is a good idea! I've heard that commercial on the radio before ("my social security number is....."). The next time I hear it I'll make note and post the details here.

Thanks for the help, everyone. I ended up faxing them my docs (keeping my fingers crossed!).
Kram

**Mousey** · 20th November 2007, 12:38 AM

I usually black out most of the numbers on the copy of utility bill, DL, or whatever, too. One casino tried to refuse the cashout because my documents were 'altered'. That took a month or two of wrangling...

**bernynhel** · 20th November 2007, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mousey

I usually black out most of the numbers on the copy of utility bill, DL, or whatever, too. One casino tried to refuse the cashout because my documents were 'altered'. That took a month or two of wrangling...

That reminds me...early on a casino that requested docs soon after I registered and deposited with a credit card emailed me upon receipt of the docs stating that they had rec'd the docs and that they were on file and I was good to go. So in the email accompanying the docs I voluntarily submit to new casinos I always request that the casino confirm the receipt of the docs and also that I have met the requirements of the casino's documentation policy in advance of any potential cash in request.