block my affiliate account because my site is in chinese?

**wangpoker** · 4th October 2007, 06:23 PM

I always register revenue share program even there is a CPA option, but I till got blocked by many casinos and poker rooms. They charged me committing fraudulent activities. My sites are in Chinese. Sites in Chinese don't mean fraud!

Mansion, partypoker, pokerroom....you just hate Chinese players. These companies won't success in Asia. Learn from bet365! It's the best for asians.

Hi Richard,

Thank you for providing the information that "Anthony" asked for.

Richard, unfortunately your account has been blocked to fraudulent activity and will not be re-openend. As part of the Terms and Conditions which you should of read prior opening your affiliate account you would of seen this:

5.8 In the event that we determine any activity to constitute Fraud Traffic, or to otherwise be in contravention of this Agreement, then in our sole discretion we may: (i) pay the Affiliate Earnings in full, (ii) recalculate them in light of such suspected Fraud Traffic or contravention, (iii) delay payment of the Affiliate Earnings while we investigate and verify the relevant transactions or (iv) forfeit your Affiliate Earnings.

Unfortunately Richard, there is nothing further I can do and we will not reactivate your account.

Regards,

Andrew Wilkinson

Affiliate Account Manager

MANSION (Gibraltar) Limited

901 Europort

Gibraltar

+350 79991 Office

**aka23** · 4th October 2007, 07:53 PM

They mentioned "fraud traffic" in the email. How do you know that this has something to do with the site being in Chinese?

**chuchu59** · 4th October 2007, 09:00 PM

I hope they are true to their word with the actual reason being fraud traffic. Press them for an answer as to what the fraudulent activities are. The untapped potential of the China market is huge.

**wangpoker** · 4th October 2007, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by chuchu59

I hope they are true to their word with the actual reason being fraud traffic. Press them for an answer as to what the fraudulent activities are. The untapped potential of the China market is huge.

I asked mansion the same question.

**wangpoker** · 11th October 2007, 04:10 PM

They haven't answered my email.
I think they won't.

**jcklrx** · 15th June 2011, 02:52 PM

If i may say i think what has happned in this case

china as a region is not illegal to play online casino but the market it self is full of corupt,bonus abusers ,fraudsters and the list goes on that is why most leading online casino do not target regions such as china.

Let me give you a example as to why your account has probably been closed

thousands of Chinese people are visiting the casino but not many are depositing and / or worse many have been flagged by the casino risk team because of fraud activity and bonus abuse this cost money and resource to the casino .

Your site being in Chinese has targeted the Chinese market which the casino involved has clearly taken the decision that it was not worth the time,resource and most importantly the money

This is my conclusion i might be wrong though.

Best of luck

jck

**vinylweatherman** · 15th June 2011, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by jcklrx

If i may say i think what has happned in this case

china as a region is not illegal to play online casino but the market it self is full of corupt,bonus abusers ,fraudsters and the list goes on that is why most leading online casino do not target regions such as china.

Let me give you a example as to why your account has probably been closed

thousands of Chinese people are visiting the casino but not many are depositing and / or worse many have been flagged by the casino risk team because of fraud activity and bonus abuse this cost money and resource to the casino .

Your site being in Chinese has targeted the Chinese market which the casino involved has clearly taken the decision that it was not worth the time,resource and most importantly the money

This is my conclusion i might be wrong though.

Best of luck

jck

Well, surely the answer is to ask affiliates NOT to promote to Chinese players, rather than screw the affiliate. It is not the AFFILIATE'S fault that China is a difficult market to manage, and if they say they accept Chinese players, they should EXPECT their affiliates who have the capability to market into the Chinese market by constructing websites in Chinese.

It will be ALL affiliates that are likely to be "burned" by this, so those that do market to Chinese players should consider pulling out to avoid getting ALL their earnings "burned" by the program, not just those from the Chinese market.

Bigger affiliates could also ringfence their Chinese exposure by setting up a subsidiary "company" and affiliate account to cover their high risk exposure. This would mean that ONLY their Chinese earnings get "burned" if a similar problem was discovered on their sites, and their earnings from elsewhere would not.

The Chinese government view online gambling as illegal, a situation similar to the US, where government opinion is not reflected in clear laws. Given that China is NOT a democracy, what the government believes becomes "law" in effect, since their interpretations cannot be challenged without considerable risks.

China is a market that has both great potential and high risks, and anyone targetting this market needs to manage these risks so that they do not bring the ENTIRE business down when things go wrong.

This should be brought up at affiliate conferences, which will force the program managers to clarify the situation. I am sure that affiliates, like players, feel that "scammery" should not be "swept under the carpet" so that others walk blindly into the same problems.

**Jasminebed** · 15th June 2011, 03:29 PM

Don't forget that there are large chinese speaking populations in other countries than China, and many people are most comfortable dealing in their native tongue.