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Old 2nd July 2007, 12:17 AM
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There is Global Intersafe and Intersafe Global.
http://www.roccoscasino.com/about.aspx: "www.roccoscasino.com & www.roccospoker.com are wholly owned by Global Intersafe Limited".
http://www.intersafeglobal.com: "Intersafe Global (Europe) Ltd. is part of the 888 Group".

According to http://www.gobignetwork.com/profiles/Karl-Joseph.aspx, the director of Global Intersafe is/was looking for funding, this would hardly be necessary, if the company were connected to 888.com.

The graphics on roccoscasino is similar to 888.com's.

My guess would be is that Roccos has nothing to do with 888.com, but is trying to create an impression that it has.

http://www.roccoscasino.com/about.aspx:
"we are proud to be licensed and regulated by the Government of Costa Rica." I can hardly wait to deposit all my money there.
Both sites seem dead now, I can't load either casino or poker, but I can post just fine here, so not my end.
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Old 2nd July 2007, 12:20 AM
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Strange! I cant get to it either!

I just sent them an email telling them to look at this post, and now they have gone!
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I got fooled so easily ! Sorry Uungy.
What made me believe it was 888, even if in the first sight I thought it was a clone, is the fact the website and software is developed with .Net.
You must be very confident to launch a .Net website today.
The 2nd thing is that their games are clones of 888.
Who would be crazy enough to copy MicroGaming, Playtech, Intercasino or 888 ?
Especially in .Net !
Usually, these kind of guys copy more unknown software like JackpotSoft did (their website is also down since we’ve talked about them here).
The 3rd thing is the Intersafe Global name…but as Uungy and GrandMaster said it, it’s not the same InterSafe.
From RoccosCasino website this is RoccosCasino's Intersafe:
Roccos Entertainment Group SA(Company Registration No:5334238)

And this is 888's InterSafe:
Intersafe Global (Europe), Ltd., P.O. Box 199, Gibraltar

It looks like RoccosCasino has copied the games from 888 and as GrandMaster said:
“Roccos has nothing to do with 888.com, but is trying to create an impression that it has”

Finally, as I’ve said before, I was impressed by the SEO work done on the website and I thought that nobody would spend that money and effort (quite a lot, they’ve built blogs, bought links, directory and article submissions, all this done by professionals, etc…) to promote a clone website developed with the .Net framework, which is, I repeat, quite a revolution.
I still don’t get it.
There is something which doesn’t fit in any of the scenarii I’m thinking of.
But the fact the website is down, now that that we’ve started this thread is quite weird.
I think we really got something interesting here.
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I have just recieved an email from them
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Thank you for informing us about the thread at Casinomeister.
Now we can cleary see what type of person you are and as such have blocked
your IP address from our servers.
You should be very careful what you post on forums, especially when the
posting is slanderous and therefore could result in legal action.
I warn you that any further slanderous remarks will result in legal action.

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Legal action in the Costa Rican juridiction ?
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Clearly, they are very keen to stifle discussion. What have 888 to say about this, or are they turning the proverbial "blind eye". I still remember the "Reef Club" issues, where 888 denied any connection, yet they used the same software, same support offices, same processors etc.... AND cross promoted each other.
When Roccos turns bad (publically that is), how are 888 going to counter the accusations of a connection.
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Why are you giving 888 stick with all this

IT IS NOT AFFILIATED TO 888, AND THE SOFTWARE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
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Why are you giving 888 stick with all this

IT IS NOT AFFILIATED TO 888, AND THE SOFTWARE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

Well, earlier you posted

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Not at all!

They have nothing to do with 888, and there software is a clone of 888, but obviously the RNG will be different.

The software is their own, and once you play there, you will see what I mean
First impressions were indeed that they were deliberately trying to ride on the reputation of 888, even to the extent of giving the company a name VERY similar to the processor behind 888. When this discussion was brought to their notice, they acted like they had something to hide, the site went down for a while, and they replied to you in a threatening tone, implying they were not interested in an informed/experienced player, but were specifically targeting the UK.

I can find absolutely NO terms & conditions for promotional chips, and the general terms have inactive links, such as the "prohibited programmmes policy" that goes nowhere, and the dropdown menu for phone numbers that trips a "denied access" from the web server. They also use a non-specific 0845 number that makes it impossible to work out where their support is based, and also prevents players outside of Europe from phoning them.
They claim to have been operating since 2005, so they should be over "teething problems".
I rather suspect they have set up shop to target the UK come September, when online gambling goes "mainstream", and could certainly attract some initial media coverage. New players will be lured in by what they see as a UK company (even has a UK company number), and they may not realise the significance of them being "legally regulated in Costa Rica". I wonder if they are "insured" there too

Better off playing at Palace of Fat Chance, at least we know HOW they are going to rip us off.
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