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Old 27th June 2007, 05:11 PM
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Completing bonus requirements?

One thing which annoys me, is that certain casinos like king Solomons for example , there is no way of knowing when you have met the wagering requirements. Ive deposited twice at KS and at one point played for over a week several hours a day on slots only and then gone to cash out thinking i must `easily` have satisfied the Wagering requirement only for it to be bounced back saying i hadent! I stopped playing at Wager junction for this exact reason. the same goes with a few MG casinos too such as 32red, great casino otherwise but ill not play there because again no way of knowing when the bonus requirement has been met unlike most other mg casinos where you have a bonus balance and your true balance which is great.
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Old 27th June 2007, 05:29 PM
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Do not play at RTG where you can not see the wagering requirements. Besides these casinos are nearly all rogued or not recommended. There are several RTG casinos out there where you can see it

RTG casinos can configure if this is to be seen by the player, but they do not want to be honest about it and avoid bonus problems.

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Old 27th June 2007, 05:32 PM
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For RTG You can usualy find out out your WR by entering the cashier and you will notice that it gives you a cashable balance and your wager requirement underneath.
For MG that does not show your bonus balance you have to go into playcheck and and add up your wagers or you can contact support and they should be able to tell you.
It can be a bit of pain keeping track of WR and it would be nice if Casinos made it very obvious how much more playthrough was required at all times.
One easy method is to work out your WR and then consider how many spins this would take at your level stake.
You can then auto for say 50 spins at a time which makes it easy to have a good idea of how near you are to meeting your WR.
Always check thoguh before you make out a cashout it is a mistake most of us have made and it gives the Casinos an easy excuse to void your winnings though most decent Casinos would just put the funds back to your account and inform you.
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Old 27th June 2007, 05:43 PM
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You can also get a hand tally counter and keep track that way.

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One method I use, mostly with Playtech casinos, is to note what my comps points starts at. If my WR is $3000, that means I have to earn 300 points if I get 1 point for every $10 wagered. Then If my comps says e.g. 50 at start, I'll have to end at 350/351 points at least, to be sure WR has been met.
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One of the only big problems with 32Red is that lack of automatic WR indicator. It might only take a couple of minutes to ask CS, but it's hassle.
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Since SOME casinos have now made it easy to track wagering, this puts those that don't at a disadvantage. If support are good at responding FAST, this is not such a problem, but where support takes forever to reply, it is very offputting.

King Solomon said to me that the WR indicator caused problems because of a bug where players would make a fresh deposit & the WR from a "dead" bonus would reappear, causing them to wager too much!
However, better to wager too much than too little & get shafted by harsh rules.
The MG system is best (apart from the bugs), as you do not need to go to the cashier to see if you have completed WR or not, and because the bonus converts to cash in 10 credit increments you can even work out how much WR is left. The cashier will present an exact figure.

Using hand counters & other methods severely reduces the enjoyment of playing (unless the ONLY purpose is to take the bonus), and is only necessary so as to not constantly bother support, and avoid those places that will screw you just because you were out a little in working out your wagering.
Since the bonus model is extremely popular as an online marketing tool, it is odd that it has taken so long for the software suppliers to implement something like this in the software. This brings operators under suspicion, such as did they deliberately suppress such developments in order to produce reasons to delay or deny payments, there are certainly a few casinos that do this- even to the extent of having CS lie when players ask if WR are completed so as to confiscate winnings at audit.
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I download a little cheeseball utility that works as a counter. I just mash on it after hitting "deal" each time. I can go pretty quickly. Even worked at the rogue RTGs!

Unfortunately, I lost the link for the page to download it from.
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I have always type my wager amaounts to a notepad while playing with bonuses and it helps me if I have a problem with wagering requirements. I can give the exact number(exp. deposited $500, wagered $5963, withdraw $1200) so they believe that there is a mistake on their side and they try to solve it faster.
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